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1 hour ago, youngrebelfan40 said:

Well... duh he was trying to get officials to do their job. 

 

He also was trying to get a massive, "big-government", "welfare" elimination of poverty passed. All of his solutions for black freedom rights involved action by the federal government. None were "small-government". 

 

I've read many of his speeches. I doubt you have.

No he wasn't.

It is pretty obvious you are not capable of a non-biased interpretation of history.   Some of us were alive when MLK was making his history.  He in no way ever advocated for big government.  He fought government and racists in government his whole life.

Government racism is why blacks suffered for 100 years after the civil war.  Why the fuck would he want more of it?

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3 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

No he wasn't.

It is pretty obvious you are not capable of a non-biased interpretation of history.   Some of us were alive when MLK was making his history.  He in no way ever advocated for big government.  He fought government and racists in government his whole life.

Government racism is why blacks suffered for 100 years after the civil war.  Why the fuck would he want more of it?

He didn't think of government as big vs small, he thought of it as enforcing racism vs not enforcing racism. The fact that government was "big" wasn't the problem, the fact that it was racist was. He never articulated any ideology that "size" was the issue. He wanted the federal government to take an active role in eliminating racism and poverty. By modern conservative standards, that would be a big-government action.

He was very pro-federal government in the overriding of racist state law, and was pro-federal government in law changes to enable civil rights and in the war on poverty. He dedicated years of his life towards demanding guaranteed welfare income and guaranteed employment from.. the federal government. 

If Obama, Ocasio-Cortez, Liz Warren, etc. came with MLK's Economic Bill of Rights WORD FOR WORD and presented it to the House of Representatives, you would call them a big-government socialist. 

Face facts.

On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said:

I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite.  

28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week.

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8 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

There are only about 10 billion sources refuting your bullshit.  Blacks all voted republican back then, democrats were and still are racists.

http://humanevents.com/2006/08/16/why-martin-luther-king-was-republican/

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.

 

 

GREAT link!  After the first paragraph there is ZERO reference to MLK.  Nothing in this article proves or disproves MLK was a member of any political party

Above I posted experts (including MLK himself & his son) saying very specifically he was either not a Republican or non-partisan.  You post a piece w/sweeping generalities, that doesn't address the question of MLK's party affiliation.   How does an article claiming "...almost all black Americans were Republicans..." in that era prove MLK was a Republican??? 

BTW...claiming the Dixiecrats represented the entire Democratic Party is lazy & disingenuous.

 

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On 1/20/2019 at 3:30 PM, bluerules009 said:

Like you know anything about history.   He spent his whole life trying to get racist government officials to do their job and enforce the laws.

He was a republican and republicans especially in the 50's and 60's were for small government.

Your revisionist history claims are just another example of the ignorance and brainwashing you have gone through.

 

More experts, colleagues & family refuting King was a Republican:

"Dr. King never believed in any kind of party identification.  He never allowed himself to become closely aligned with partisan politics. He occasionally said that both the Democratic and Republican Party had betrayed his people.”

-Dr Lewis Baldwin, MLK scholar at Vanderbilt Univ

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Dr Jackson classifies MLK as a “…’tax and spend' democratic socialist.  He wanted the nation to spend billions of dollars directly to employ the unemployed when the private sector failed, and a vigorous mixture of affirmative action and anti-poverty programs championed by the liberal-left, and targeted federal spending in impoverished areas, especially the nation's slums,"

-Dr Thomas Jackson, MLK scholar at Univ of North Carolina

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"There is absolutely no confirmation that (MLK) was a Republican. He was never a member of any political party — and never formally endorsed any candidates.”

-Steve Klein, Communications Dir of the King Cntr

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"My husband had a policy of not endorsing presidential candidates,”

-Coretta Scott King, MLK’s wife

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“There is no reason why anyone would think King was a Republican.”

-Rev Joseph Lowery, Co-Founder Southern Christian Leadership Conf

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https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/jan/17/raging-elephants/houston-group-says-martin-luther-king-jr-was-repub/

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/15/us/mlk-myths/index.html

 

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5 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

(MLK) was a republican and republicans especially in the 50's and 60's were for small government.

 

Dr Jackson classifies MLK as a “…’tax and spend' democratic socialist.  He wanted the nation to spend billions of dollars directly to employ the unemployed when the private sector failed, and a vigorous mixture of affirmative action and anti-poverty programs championed by the liberal-left, and targeted federal spending in impoverished areas, especially the nation's slums,"

-Dr Thomas Jackson, MLK scholar at Univ of North Carolina

 

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On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said:

I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite.  

28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week.

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14 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

No he wasn't.

It is pretty obvious you are not capable of a non-biased interpretation of history.   Some of us were alive when MLK was making his history.  He in no way ever advocated for big government.  He fought government and racists in government his whole life.

Government racism is why blacks suffered for 100 years after the civil war.  Why the fuck would he want more of it?

Lol! Got to hand it to you, blues, you’ll use every “fact” at your disposal and twist it’s meaning to fit your peculiar narrative.

While it’s true your heart was beating and your blood was pumping on April 4, 1968, your mother was still wiping your nose (and probably your ass) at that point in your existence. You sure as shit had never heard of MLK up to the day of his death and probably not in the following decade of your life, either. 

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15 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

No he wasn't.

It is pretty obvious you are not capable of a non-biased interpretation of history.   Some of us were alive when MLK was making his history.  He in no way ever advocated for big government.  He fought government and racists in government his whole life.

Government racism is why blacks suffered for 100 years after the civil war.  Why the fuck would he want more of it?

 

1 hour ago, Posturedoc said:

Lol! Got to hand it to you, blues, you’ll use every “fact” at your disposal and twist it’s meaning to fit your peculiar narrative.

While it’s true your heart was beating and your blood was pumping on April 4, 1968, your mother was still wiping your nose (and probably your ass) at that point in your existence. You sure as shit had never heard of MLK up to the day of his death and probably not in the following decade of your life, either. 

 

I'm shocked @bluerules009 hasn't sited InfoWars -or- George Noory yet...

 

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1 hour ago, Posturedoc said:

Lol! Got to hand it to you, blues, you’ll use every “fact” at your disposal and twist it’s meaning to fit your peculiar narrative.

While it’s true your heart was beating and your blood was pumping on April 4, 1968, your mother was still wiping your nose (and probably your ass) at that point in your existence. You sure as shit had never heard of MLK up to the day of his death and probably not in the following decade of your life, either. 

Just another example of the witch doctor thinking he knows something he doesn't.  Stick to crippling your patients, that is what you know.

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2 hours ago, Posturedoc said:

Lol! Got to hand it to you, blues, you’ll use every “fact” at your disposal and twist it’s meaning to fit your peculiar narrative.

While it’s true your heart was beating and your blood was pumping on April 4, 1968, your mother was still wiping your nose (and probably your ass) at that point in your existence. You sure as shit had never heard of MLK up to the day of his death and probably not in the following decade of your life, either. 

I heard of him.  My family has a letter from MLK thanking someone for their support.  Specifically, it was sent to a conservative white Baptist preacher in Georgia.  

       

 

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20 hours ago, youngrebelfan40 said:

King was for welfare and "big government". 

Not only was Reverend King unwittingly duped into supporting rabid racists like LBJ and Margaret Sanger, he was just as flawed in his personal life. Much of his post graduate work was plagiarized. He was a serial cheater. 

That doesn't take away from the purity of his "judged by the content of ones character" message. It just means he's one of God's children, no better no worse. A difficult concept to grasp viewing life through the prism of demagoguery of the day. But it's necessary to understand the message

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On 1/20/2019 at 4:30 PM, bluerules009 said:

Like you know anything about history.   He spent his whole life trying to get racist government officials to do their job and enforce the laws.

He was a republican and republicans especially in the 50's and 60's were for small government.

 

Your revisionist history claims are just another example of the ignorance and brainwashing you have gone through.

Wait, the same 1950s and 1960s republicans who created the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act, the Clean Air Act, who started the "war on drugs" and the police state, who had the highest marginal tax rates in history, who voted in the biggest public infrastructure spending the world has ever seen, who expanded on FDR's social security, who created the departments of Heath, Education, and Wefare, and who sent in federal troops to enforce federal laws on states who still wanted segregation were "for small government"?

Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. 

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