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Trumps MLK Jr proclamation.

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WTF. Did he not already know that this was a holiday?

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-proclaims-50th-anniversary-assassination-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/

 

NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim April 4, 2018, to be a day to honor Dr. King’s legacy.  I urge all Americans to do their part to make Dr. King’s dreams of peace, unity, and justice a reality.

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"It is not the government that will achieve Mr. King's ideals" 

You do know that MLK's entire strategy to achieve his ideals was with the use of the federal government, right?

On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said:

I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite.  

28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week.

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4 minutes ago, SJSUMFA2013 said:

He wants to celebrate the anniversary of mlk’s murder at the hands of a white supremacist. It did help pave the way for his presidency after all.

Oh shit. I didn't even put that together on the date. 

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1 hour ago, rudolro said:

WTF. Did he not already know that this was a holiday?

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-proclaims-50th-anniversary-assassination-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/

 

NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim April 4, 2018, to be a day to honor Dr. King’s legacy.  I urge all Americans to do their part to make Dr. King’s dreams of peace, unity, and justice a reality.

The 50th year being celebrated as a way to honor a man who on this date was silenced physically, but not message-wise.  I actually like it, but I am not trying do an immediate negative association.

 

The day and the interpretation is all on how we frame it.  

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“One of my favorite quotes from Dr. King was, ‘Now is the time to make real the promises of Democracy,'” Pence continued. “You think of how he changed America, he inspired us to change through the legislative process, to become a more perfect union. That’s exactly what President Trump is calling on the Congress to do, come to the table in a spirit of good faith.”

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3 hours ago, East Coast Aztec said:

The 50th year being celebrated as a way to honor a man who on this date was silenced physically, but not message-wise.  I actually like it, but I am not trying do an immediate negative association.

 

The day and the interpretation is all on how we frame it.  

I get what you're saying, but that would mean that the person that delivered this would know history. 

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Reverend King's doctorate was in Theology. His belief in GOD GIVEN Rights is what drove his activism.

If you want to honor Reverend King's legacy tomorrow, shut your food stamp fed piehole, and keep your sanctimonious big govt worshiping opinions to yourselves for one day.

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9 minutes ago, Extra Mayo said:

Reverend King's doctorate was in Theology. His belief in GOD GIVEN Rights is what drove his activism.

If you want to honor Reverend King's legacy tomorrow, shut your food stamp fed piehole, and keep your sanctimonious big govt worshiping opinions to yourselves for one day.

King was for welfare and "big government". 

On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said:

I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite.  

28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week.

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6 hours ago, youngrebelfan40 said:

"It is not the government that will achieve Mr. King's ideals" 

You do know that MLK's entire strategy to achieve his ideals was with the use of the federal government, right?

Like you know anything about history.   He spent his whole life trying to get racist government officials to do their job and enforce the laws.

He was a republican and republicans especially in the 50's and 60's were for small government.

 

Your revisionist history claims are just another example of the ignorance and brainwashing you have gone through.

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5 hours ago, SJSUMFA2013 said:

He wants to celebrate the anniversary of mlk’s murder at the hands of a white supremacist. It did help pave the way for his presidency after all.

 

4 hours ago, East Coast Aztec said:

The 50th year being celebrated as a way to honor a man who on this date was silenced physically, but not message-wise.  I actually like it, but I am not trying do an immediate negative association.

 

The day and the interpretation is all on how we frame it.  

See ECA’s post above.  Not everything is meant as a slight. 

thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater

 

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41 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

Like you know anything about history.   He spent his whole life trying to get racist government officials to do their job and enforce the laws.

He was a republican and republicans especially in the 50's and 60's were for small government.

 

Your revisionist history claims are just another example of the ignorance and brainwashing you have gone through.

Lol. Look up the Poor People's Campaign nimwit.

On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said:

I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite.  

28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week.

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7 hours ago, youngrebelfan40 said:

"It is not the government that will achieve Mr. King's ideals" 

You do know that MLK's entire strategy to achieve his ideals was with the use of the federal government, right?

 

1 hour ago, bluerules009 said:

Like you know anything about history.   He spent his whole life trying to get racist government officials to do their job and enforce the laws.

He was a republican and republicans especially in the 50's and 60's were for small government.

 

Your revisionist history claims are just another example of the ignorance and brainwashing you have gone through.

 

The irony is so thick when you claim @youngrebelfan40 is using "revisionist history."  A simple review of the FACTS will show you are the one who is ignorant, brainwashed & utilizing "revisionist history." 

 

King’s niece, Republican activist Alveda King, has claimed MLK was a Republican & conservative groups have purchased billboards claiming he was a Republican, but that is simply "revisionist history."

 

King was non-partisan & NEVER endorsed any national politics candidate. In 1958 King said: “I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses...and I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”

 

He didn't officially endorse Johnson, but MLK did campaign on his behalf in 1964.  MLK told Johnson on a telephone call the-day-after Johnson's victory over Goldwater. that it's a “...great victory for the forces of progress and a defeat for the forces of retrogress.”

 

 

In his Pulitzer Prize winning biography of King, David Garrow wrote: “It’s simply incorrect to call Dr. King a Republican.”

 

¿Didn't you recently claim you've only been wrong once in +15-yrs on this board?

 

https://thinkprogress.org/no-martin-luther-king-jr-was-not-a-republican-but-heres-what-he-had-to-say-about-them-9c29475ef37/

 

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Furthermore, who cares about his partisan affiliation (or lack thereof) before the Southern Strategy. Look at what he was saying in his demand for welfare in the Economic Bill of Rights that was ultimately delivered to Congress. 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/04/martin-luther-king-jr--economic-bill-of-rights

On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said:

I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite.  

28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week.

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1 hour ago, youngrebelfan40 said:

Lol. Look up the Poor People's Campaign nimwit.

Nothing like taking one part of history and blowing it totally out of proportion.  While ignoring the vast majority of the rest.  Every city and state he went to he was fighting racist government officials not doing their job.  He spent years fighting JFK, Johnson, Truman, Eisenhower trying to get them to do their job.,

He was a fucking republican moron, they are and he was for small government.  It was government that was keeping his people poor, it was government that was keeping his people from opportunity.   

Maybe you should read one of his speeches?  Instead of relying on some modern corruption of his message by pinhead leftists like you who want to change history.

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52 minutes ago, GoState99755 said:

 

 

The irony is so thick when you claim @youngrebelfan40 is using "revisionist history."  A simple review of the FACTS will show you are the one who is ignorant, brainwashed & utilizing "revisionist history." 

 

King’s niece, Republican activist Alveda King, has claimed MLK was a Republican & conservative groups have purchased billboards claiming he was a Republican, but that is simply "revisionist history."

 

King was non-partisan & NEVER endorsed any national politics candidate. In 1958 King said: “I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses...and I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”

 

He didn't officially endorse Johnson, but MLK did campaign on his behalf in 1964.  MLK told Johnson on a telephone call the-day-after Johnson's victory over Goldwater. that it's a “...great victory for the forces of progress and a defeat for the forces of retrogress.”

 

 

In his Pulitzer Prize winning biography of King, David Garrow wrote: “It’s simply incorrect to call Dr. King a Republican.”

 

¿Didn't you recently claim you've only been wrong once in +15-yrs on this board?

 

https://thinkprogress.org/no-martin-luther-king-jr-was-not-a-republican-but-heres-what-he-had-to-say-about-them-9c29475ef37/

 

It isn't wrong it is a fact.

No matter what some revisionist historian says.

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34 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

Nothing like taking one part of history and blowing it totally out of proportion.  While ignoring the vast majority of the rest.  Every city and state he went to he was fighting racist government officials not doing their job.  He spent years fighting JFK, Johnson, Truman, Eisenhower trying to get them to do their job.,

He was a fucking republican moron, they are and he was for small government.  It was government that was keeping his people poor, it was government that was keeping his people from opportunity.   

Maybe you should read one of his speeches?  Instead of relying on some modern corruption of his message by pinhead leftists like you who want to change history.

Well... duh he was trying to get officials to do their job. 

 

He also was trying to get a massive, "big-government", "welfare" elimination of poverty passed. All of his solutions for black freedom rights involved action by the federal government. None were "small-government". 

 

I've read many of his speeches. I doubt you have.

On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said:

I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite.  

28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said:

I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week.

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1 hour ago, GoState99755 said:

 

 

The irony is so thick when you claim @youngrebelfan40 is using "revisionist history."  A simple review of the FACTS will show you are the one who is ignorant, brainwashed & utilizing "revisionist history." 

 

King’s niece, Republican activist Alveda King, has claimed MLK was a Republican & conservative groups have purchased billboards claiming he was a Republican, but that is simply "revisionist history."

 

King was non-partisan & NEVER endorsed any national politics candidate. In 1958 King said: “I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses...and I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”

 

He didn't officially endorse Johnson, but MLK did campaign on his behalf in 1964.  MLK told Johnson on a telephone call the-day-after Johnson's victory over Goldwater. that it's a “...great victory for the forces of progress and a defeat for the forces of retrogress.”

 

 

In his Pulitzer Prize winning biography of King, David Garrow wrote: “It’s simply incorrect to call Dr. King a Republican.”

 

¿Didn't you recently claim you've only been wrong once in +15-yrs on this board?

 

https://thinkprogress.org/no-martin-luther-king-jr-was-not-a-republican-but-heres-what-he-had-to-say-about-them-9c29475ef37/

 

 

54 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

It isn't wrong it is a fact.

No matter what some revisionist historian says.

 

If "...it is a fact..." that MLK was a Republican, I should be very easy for you to link us to some proof of this. 

 

I'm not sure you understand the definition of revisionist history.  Republican activist Alveda King (King's niece) is the "revisionist historian" here. How can MLK's own words be considered revisionist history?:  

“I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses...and I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”

-MLK, 1958

 

So you are claiming David Garrow, who's biography of MLK won a Pulitzer Prize, is a "revisionist historian?"

 

Is MLK's son a "revisionist historian" too?:

“It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican.”

-Martin Luther King III, 2008

 

I've showed numerous examples of how MLK wasn't a Republican.  Were's your proof of the "fact" he is???

 

 

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1 hour ago, GoState99755 said:

 

 

If "...it is a fact..." that MLK was a Republican, I should be very easy for you to link us to some proof of this. 

 

I'm not sure you understand the definition of revisionist history.  Republican activist Alveda King (King's niece) is the "revisionist historian" here. How can MLK's own words be considered revisionist history?:  

“I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses...and I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”

-MLK, 1958

 

So you are claiming David Garrow, who's biography of MLK won a Pulitzer Prize, is a "revisionist historian?"

 

Is MLK's son a "revisionist historian" too?:

“It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican.”

-Martin Luther King III, 2008

 

I've showed numerous examples of how MLK wasn't a Republican.  Were's your proof of the "fact" he is???

 

 

There are only about 10 billion sources refuting your bullshit.  Blacks all voted republican back then, democrats were and still are racists.

http://humanevents.com/2006/08/16/why-martin-luther-king-was-republican/

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.

 

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