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24 minutes ago, mysfit said:

I'm extremely dissapointed that our choices are again 3 old white guys.

I can't see any of them running in 2024 so VP picks will I hope be younger and more diverse. And not science deniers....

Interesting op-ed in today's L.A. Times by a religion professor at Boston College. Self professed Never Trumper who says he would be fine with either Bernie or Biden winning in November. Because of their ages, the tiebreaker for him is the chances of the two being able to serve even one full term. Having obtained suggested websites from a colleague in medicine, he won't be supporting Sanders. Basically, Bernie would be 79 by inauguration day and given how recently he had a heart attack, the odds of Sanders living to be 83 are statistically only about 1 in 3.

Biden? It's humorous how Republicans who criticize his mental acuity ignore the fact that Reagan suffered from dementia all through his second term in office.

Biden won't say it but he isn't going to run for reelection and Stacey Abrams is just 46. One more reason to think she'd make a great choice for VP.

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7 minutes ago, retrofade said:

It would be fair play as long as campaign finance laws were adhered to. 

I was not really talking about whether it is legal or not.  Just what the reaction would be.  I could totally see you linking an article by some HuffPo writer talking about how unfair it is and MSNBC going ballistic with how sketchy Trump is.

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12 minutes ago, BYUcougfan said:

I was not really talking about whether it is legal or not.  Just what the reaction would be.  I could totally see you linking an article by some HuffPo writer talking about how unfair it is and MSNBC going ballistic with how sketchy Trump is.

I'm talking about my own perspective in your hypothetical situation. 

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15 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

Biden? It's humorous how Republicans who criticize his mental acuity ignore the fact that Reagan suffered from dementia all through his second term in office.

Not only that, but they support Trump, who on an almost daily basis makes people question his mental acuity. 

15 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

Biden won't say it but he isn't going to run for reelection and Stacey Abrams is just 46. One more reason to think she'd make a great choice for VP.

I'm really not sold on Abrams... and I don't know what the obsession with her is. I think she's going to stay focused on her anti-voter suppression efforts.

 

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16 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

Interesting op-ed in today's L.A. Times by a religion professor at Boston College. Self professed Never Trumper who says he would be fine with either Bernie or Biden winning in November. Because of their ages, the tiebreaker for him is the chances of the two being able to serve even one full term. Having obtained suggested websites from a colleague in medicine, he won't be supporting Sanders. Basically, Bernie would be 79 by inauguration day and given how recently he had a heart attack, the odds of Sanders living to be 83 are statistically only about 1 in 3.

Biden? It's humorous how Republicans who criticize his mental acuity ignore the fact that Reagan suffered from dementia all through his second term in office.

Biden won't say it but he isn't going to run for reelection and Stacey Abrams is just 46. One more reason to think she'd make a great choice for VP.

What the hell is great about Stacey Abrams?

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This Abrams obsession is bizarre. She couldn't even win her own state-wide race. Yet, she'll be a boon to the ticket. Yeah. Ok. Why not Andrew Gillum if not her? He's black and lost a state-wide race too. 

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12 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

What the hell is great about Stacey Abrams?

You've forgotten that, to me, this election is all about one thing only: getting the Worst.President.Ever out of the White House.

Given how African Americans have saved Biden's candidacy, he's obligated to name one as his running mate. She also checks the gender box which will help soothe the butt hurt of Warren supporters and get them to turn out. She's also plenty bright.

As for losing to Brian Kemp, really? The guy was Georgia's secretary of state and therefore in charge of the election, which he won with a whopping 50.2% of the vote. Maybe no shenanigans occurred but that was a blatant conflict of interest. At least those of us who aren't staunch Republicans can see that it was.

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40 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

Links please and thank you :Clapping:

These two threads are a good starting point

 

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Some are saying Nevada's own Cortez-Masto could be Biden's VP pick however I think it might behoove joe to pick from a more battleground-ie state. NV looks pretty dang blue right now.

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2 minutes ago, toonkee said:

Some are saying Nevada's own Cortez-Masto could be Biden's VP pick however I think it might behoove joe to pick from a more battleground-ie state. NV looks pretty dang blue right now.

But she could help get out the Latino vote for Biden. 

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12 minutes ago, SleepingGiantFan said:

You've forgotten that, to me, this election is all about one thing only: getting the Worst.President.Ever out of the White House.

Given how African Americans have saved Biden's candidacy, he's obligated to name one as his running mate. She also checks the gender box which will help soothe the butt hurt of Warren supporters and get them to turn out. She's also plenty bright.

As for losing to Brian Kemp, really? The guy was Georgia's secretary of state and therefore in charge of the election, which he won with a whopping 50.2% of the vote. Maybe no shenanigans occurred but that was a blatant conflict of interest. At least those of us who aren't staunch Republicans can see that it was.

You’re a good guy. So I hope you don’t take this personally, because this line of thinking of “representation” means black support is prevalent across all political analysis. I think it’s bunk. Not only that, it’s patronizing as all hell.

Black democratic voters had options that would ostensibly “represent” them. They rejected them outright, because they were phonies. Corey Booker couldn’t both be  the Spartacus woke progressive and the happy, aspirational warrior. They saw him as corny. Kamala Harris was an “i’ll whoop your ass if you step out of line, boy” cop, but then pretended to be all things to everyone. Black voters recognized they were trying to steal from Bernie and Warren’s movements, and rejected them for being fake to appeal to commie college kids and rich white liberals. You know who they stuck by? The old, incoherent white guy, who when everybody was trying to glom onto Bernie’s movement, took the incoming fire and had the back of Barack Obama, a person they genuinely like. He had his friends back, and that mattered a helluva lot more than sex or skin pigmentation.

Maybe Abrams can be that kind of figure, but there is nothing that suggests black voters will support her just because she looks like them. Besides, Obama is going to deliver a crushing speech at the convention and bring the house down. Black voters were the first on the Biden train, it’s everybody else that’s coming late to the party.

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Just now, thelawlorfaithful said:

You’re a good guy. So I hope you don’t take this personally, because this line of thinking of “representation” means black support is prevalent across all political analysis. I think it’s bunk. Not only that, it’s patronizing as all hell.

Black democratic voters had options that would ostensibly “represent” them. They rejected them outright, because they were phonies. Corey Booker couldn’t both be  the Spartacus woke progressive and the happy, aspirational warrior. They saw him as corny. Kamala Harris was an “i’ll whoop your ass if you step out of line, boy” cop, but then pretended to be all things to everyone. Black voters recognized they were trying to steal from Bernie and Warren’s movements, and rejected them for being fake to appeal to commie college kids and rich white liberals. You know who they stuck by? The old, incoherent white guy, who when everybody was trying to glom onto Bernie’s movement, took the incoming fire and had the back of Barack Obama, a person they genuinely like. He had his friends back, and that mattered a helluva lot more than sex or skin pigmentation.

Maybe Abrams can be that kind of figure, but there is nothing that suggests black voters will support her just because she looks like them. Besides, Obama is going to deliver a crushing speech at the convention and bring the house down. Black voters were the first on the Biden train, it’s everybody else that’s coming late to the party.

Maybe someone they associate with Obama?

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michelle obama ew GIF

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Just now, RSF said:

Lunging Vegans would be a great name for a band.

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13 minutes ago, toonkee said:

Maybe someone they associate with Obama?

Like....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

michelle obama ew GIF

Getting old really sucks. It brings to mind an old Chris Rock bit where he said, and I’m paraphrasing and clearly less funny, “Colin Powell should be Bob Dole’s VP? Colin Powell could beat Bob Dole!”

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31 minutes ago, toonkee said:

Some are saying Nevada's own Cortez-Masto could be Biden's VP pick however I think it might behoove joe to pick from a more battleground-ie state. NV looks pretty dang blue right now.

Nevada is small potatoes. He needs somebody that can win in the Midwest or maybe Florida.

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27 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

You’re a good guy. So I hope you don’t take this personally, because this line of thinking of “representation” means black support is prevalent across all political analysis. I think it’s bunk. Not only that, it’s patronizing as all hell.

Black democratic voters had options that would ostensibly “represent” them. They rejected them outright, because they were phonies. Corey Booker couldn’t both be  the Spartacus woke progressive and the happy, aspirational warrior. They saw him as corny. Kamala Harris was an “i’ll whoop your ass if you step out of line, boy” cop, but then pretended to be all things to everyone. Black voters recognized they were trying to steal from Bernie and Warren’s movements, and rejected them for being fake to appeal to commie college kids and rich white liberals. You know who they stuck by? The old, incoherent white guy, who when everybody was trying to glom onto Bernie’s movement, took the incoming fire and had the back of Barack Obama, a person they genuinely like. He had his friends back, and that mattered a helluva lot more than sex or skin pigmentation.

Maybe Abrams can be that kind of figure, but there is nothing that suggests black voters will support her just because she looks like them. Besides, Obama is going to deliver a crushing speech at the convention and bring the house down. Black voters were the first on the Biden train, it’s everybody else that’s coming late to the party.

This is an excellent analysis.

 

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1 hour ago, mysfit said:

I'm extremely dissapointed that our choices are again 3 old white guys.

I can't see any of them running in 2024 so VP picks will I hope be younger and more diverse. And not science deniers....

Why do you care that they are white? Black people have overwhelmingly supported Biden over black candidates throughout this primary. Latinos have overwhelmingly supported Sanders even when a Latino candidate was in the race. Are you saying they should just shut up and their opinions don’t matter because some woke white people want diversity on the stage? 

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