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2 hours ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

So much error and naivete that it would take half an hour of writing time to debunk it.

Or, you can't debunk anything I said because it is all true and you are to dishonest to admit it.

31 minutes ago, retrofade said:
  • Longest government shutdown in US History    Who cares, it affects no one.
  • Destroyed foreign relationships with our closest allies while cozying up with dictators  You must be talking about Obama
  • Most Cabinet firings   Again who cares
  • Most White House firings  Again who cares
  • Most investigations into a President, White House Staff, and Cabinet since the early 20th century  Yeah show us a link.  Obama had investigations into at least 5 major problems from using the IRS to attack political enemies, Selling guns to Mexican Cartels, Lying to the public about a terrorist attack to change the outcome of an election, not to mention Bush and Clinton both had quite a few investigations.  You are just a liar.
  • Highest tariffs since the 30s   Prove it.   His tariff policy is horrible in my view but it is keeping his campaign promise, he was elected on that platform.
  • Nearly 8,000 lies told in ~2 years   I would imagine it was more and I would imagine you pulled that number out of your ass.   Yet you should be proud that is the number of lies you have told in the last 2 years divided by 10, you are the lying winner!

When Trump kills an American citizen and his son in violation of a dozen really good laws, I will take you all seriously that he is the worst ever.  Right now Trump has far far surpassed Obama in honesty and substance.  Granted both were really low bars to pass as it would be hard for a snake to get under either one.

The funny thing is you two and your buttbuddies all believe what you are saying.  You have deluded yourself to the point I don't think you can be honest with yourself.   Trump is a bad president and a bad guy but the facts are the facts and you guys are just discrediting yourself just like birther's were for a decade.

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2 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

Or, you can't debunk anything I said because it is all true and you are to dishonest to admit it.

 

The funny thing is you two and your buttbuddies all believe what you are saying.  You have deluded yourself to the point I don't think you can be honest with yourself.   Trump is a bad president and a bad guy but the facts are the facts and you guys are just discrediting yourself just like birther's were for a decade.

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You've truly lost your mind. I love how you "hate" Trump, yet you defend him relentlessly. It seems like there's a term for that... maybe, hypocrite? Yeah, that sounds about right. 

Now, on to your defense of Trump. I will admit that I was wrong about the investigations... I was thinking about Harding's administration, but I forgot about the Reagan administration and all 

  • 7,645 false or misleading claims as of 12/21
  • The Harding Administration had seven investigations. Now, depending on how you look at the Reagan administration, it might beat Harding. That being said, Trump has 17 investigations ongoing, and that doesn't account for investigations into his disgraced cabinet appointments like Zinke. 
  • Read up on the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, which had the highest tariff rates experienced until the Trump tariffs. After the passing of the Reciprocal Tariff Act in 1934, tariffs began to decrease, especially following the conclusion of WWII.

Would you like to be embarrassed again?

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6 minutes ago, retrofade said:

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You've truly lost your mind. I love how you "hate" Trump, yet you defend him relentlessly. It seems like there's a term for that... maybe, hypocrite? Yeah, that sounds about right. 

Now, on to your defense of Trump. I will admit that I was wrong about the investigations... I was thinking about Harding's administration, but I forgot about the Reagan administration and all 

  • 7,645 false or misleading claims as of 12/21
  • The Harding Administration had seven investigations. Now, depending on how you look at the Reagan administration, it might beat Harding. That being said, Trump has 17 investigations ongoing, and that doesn't account for investigations into his disgraced cabinet appointments like Zinke. 
  • Read up on the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, which had the highest tariff rates experienced until the Trump tariffs. After the passing of the Reciprocal Tariff Act in 1934, tariffs began to decrease, especially following the conclusion of WWII.

Would you like to be embarrassed again?

You are delusional, if Trump has 17, Obama, Bush and Clinton must have had 100's.

The power of delusion is strong in this one.  HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

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1 minute ago, bluerules009 said:

You are delusional, if Trump has 17, Obama, Bush and Clinton must have had 100's.

The power of delusion is strong in this one.  HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

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4 minutes ago, retrofade said:

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You just keep proving your bias, hypocrisy and lack of honesty over and over and over.

Trump is obviously a liar, grats you proved it.  HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

If you weren't a hypocrite there would be way more to acknowledge,

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6 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

You just keep proving your bias, hypocrisy and lack of honesty over and over and over.

Trump is obviously a liar, grats you proved it.  HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

If you weren't a hypocrite there would be way more to acknowledge,

You demanded proof, I provided it, and then you went off the rails as usual. 

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1 hour ago, retrofade said:
  • Longest government shutdown in US History
  • Destroyed foreign relationships with our closest allies while cozying up with dictators
  • Most Cabinet firings 
  • Most White House firings
  • Most investigations into a President, White House Staff, and Cabinet since the early 20th century
  • Highest tariffs since the 30s
  • Nearly 8,000 lies told in ~2 years

Nazi's are fine people 

Insulted a Gold Star family 

Most incompetent cabinet in history

Most golf outings & time away from White House

 

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1 hour ago, retrofade said:

You demanded proof, I provided it, and then you went off the rails as usual. 

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I demanded proof about all 7 claims you made.

You provided proof about 1 of those claims that Trump was a liar which of the 7 claims you made I agreed with that one.  Then you now act like you proved all 7, you are just a dishonest liar.

It really gets boring owning you over and over and over hypocrite.

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4 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

I demanded proof about all 7 claims you made.

You provided proof about 1 of those claims that Trump was a liar which of the 7 claims you made I agreed with that one.  Then you now act like you proved all 7, you are just a dishonest liar.

It really gets boring owning you over and over and over hypocrite.

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Oh, and I proved my claims on tariffs and investigations as well, but don't let facts get in the way of your posting diarrhea. 

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3 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

You are delusional, if Trump has 17, Obama, Bush and Clinton must have had 100's.

The power of delusion is strong in this one.  HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

So in rebutting the facts, you pull a number out of your ass. Nice.

https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-we-know-about-the-17-known-investigations-into-trump-campaign-russia-2018-12

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3 hours ago, retrofade said:

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Oh, and I proved my claims on tariffs and investigations as well, but don't let facts get in the way of your posting diarrhea. 

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

You didn't prove nothing.  Some link to a biased blogger isn't proof.  He was just making it up like you do hypocrite.

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2 hours ago, jackmormon said:

Still doesn't rebut anything I said and doesn't support his contention that is the most investigations against a single president.   Idaho was investigating the Clinton administration for killing that woman at Ruby Ridge at the state level and at the county level.   Heck we could probably come up with a 100 Clinton investigations if you count ever right wing politician trying to get elected to national office.   There were probably 10 different committees in congress investigating just that incident.  

His claim and your link are stupid as you are.

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8 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

You didn't prove nothing.  Some link to a biased blogger isn't proof.  He was just making it up like you do hypocrite.

So... the Washington Post and Wikipedia links to actual legislation are "biased bloggers" now? 

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Your desperation to defend Trump is hilarious at this point. 

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On 1/11/2019 at 10:53 PM, bluerules009 said:

Trump has cut taxes including corporate taxes, he has destroyed Obama Care on a federal basis by ending the mandate.  Trump has raised tariffs and negotiated trade treaties including pulling us out of the Pacific rim trade agreement.  Trump has forced our Nato allies to pay more for mutual defense.  Trump has done everything including shutting down parts of government to build his dumbass wall.   Trump has ripped into the bureaucracy of government regulations reducing and limiting their application across the board.  Everyone at the EPA, Justice, Treasury, and State are all upset they have to allow business to flow.

Obama passed Obamacare which was a total failure and put in 2 of the most under qualified and biggest haters of individual freedom on the Supreme court bench.

Trump might finally live up to Obama's promise to get us out of Iraq and Syria and the 6 other wars he started.

Trump might also do immigration reform if democrats would give him money for the wall but they won't allow that to happen.

Oh and I forgot Criminal Justice reform something Obama promised and Trump actually accomplished.

Trump in 2 years has double the productivity in democratic policies of Obama in 8 at least.  Not counting his republican accomplishments.

Yeah, so you like propaganda over facts.  Got it!

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6 minutes ago, Boise fan said:

Yeah, so you like propaganda over facts.  Got it!

Facts that you can't dispute.

Trump between Criminal justice reform, his middle and low income unneeded tax cut, leaving the wars in the middle east and if he does immigration reform along with is wall will have passed 4 democratic priorities compared to Obama's one.

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On 1/11/2019 at 10:31 PM, toonkee said:

Why would you find this guy credible?  Obviously he's a con man, right? And you were conned?

 

He was right about one thing - he knows more about drones than nearly anyone.

He hires only "the best" drones to fill his government.

He skillfully turned his base into a bunch of drones.

And...

He knows how to drone on and on....and on....and on

 

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10 minutes ago, retrofade said:

So... the Washington Post and Wikipedia links to actual legislation are "biased bloggers" now? 

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Your desperation to defend Trump is hilarious at this point. 

Your wikki leak proved nothing.  It never compared tariffs now with then and it can't because there were no tariffs on computer products, soy beans or so many other products.  You are just ignorant.

Your washington post link agreed with what I agreed with that Trump was a liar.

Everything else was your biased hypocrisy at its best.

 

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20 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

Still doesn't rebut anything I said and doesn't support his contention that is the most investigations against a single president.   Idaho was investigating the Clinton administration for killing that woman at Ruby Ridge at the state level and at the county level.   Heck we could probably come up with a 100 Clinton investigations if you count ever right wing politician trying to get elected to national office.   There were probably 10 different committees in congress investigating just that incident.  

His claim and your link are stupid as you are.

There are 17 investigations going on right now, not probably 17. 17.

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Just now, bluerules009 said:

Your wikki leak proved nothing.  It never compared tariffs now with then and it can't because there were no tariffs on computer products, soy beans or so many other products.  You are just ignorant.

Your washington post link agreed with what I agreed with that Trump was a liar.

Everything else was your biased hypocrisy at its best.

It actually did, if you had bothered to read it. You're also comparing apples to oranges. You're talking about tariffs on individual products, while I'm talking about actual tariffs and their respective rates. This is the real vs. actual wages argument that you lost the other day all over again. 

The WaPo link proved that what I said originally was accurate... you called me a liar in your first response. 

Face it, you lack the intellectual acuity to keep up in a fact-based discussion. 

I know it's only a matter of time before you dissemble and resort to your usual blend of personal attacks. 

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1 minute ago, jackmormon said:

There are 17 investigations going on right now, not probably 17. 17.

His claim was that was more than any other president in history.  Learn to read moron.

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