rudolro Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 All right donkey dicks. It's on, your refs will not be able to stop the Dogs this time around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, rudolro said: All right donkey dicks. It's on, your refs will not be able to stop the Dogs this time around NEVER underestimate the Boise Term Sheet Deal!!! 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudolro Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, BSUTOP25 said: NEVER underestimate the Boise Term Sheet Deal!!! Not underestimating anything. It just won't matter. Unless you guys go full blown Ducks on us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboMan59 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I’m not sure I understand this “we’re the WAC” pride, some people have on this board? Is it because teams were left behind when the MW was created? Is it because as teams from a then, rapidly collapsing wac, came into the MW, they (fans anyway), came in with chips on their shoulders and something to prove mentality? Do you want to bury the MW, break away and reform/relive your wac days? Im happy for BSU and FSU, and hoping we (the MWC), gets the NY6 invite, and I will cheer for all MWC teams during bowl season, but I don’t see the ‘us versus them’ devision on this board?. 2 Quote "Make a mistake once and it becomes a lesson, make the same mistake twice and it becomes a choice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughrider Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Don't read too much into it LoboMan. It has more to do with how the WAC was looked at by you all back in the day then anything looking forward. This is home and we're all settled in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueStout Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, LoboMan59 said: I’m not sure I understand this “we’re the WAC” pride, some people have on this board? Is it because teams were left behind when the MW was created? Is it because as teams from a then, rapidly collapsing wac, came into the MW, they (fans anyway), came in with chips on their shoulders and something to prove mentality? Do you want to bury the MW, break away and reform/relive your wac days? Im happy for BSU and FSU, and hoping we (the MWC), gets the NY6 invite, and I will cheer for all MWC teams during bowl season, but I don’t see the ‘us versus them’ devision on this board?. I don’t get it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearthefumanchu Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, LoboMan59 said: I’m not sure I understand this “we’re the WAC” pride, some people have on this board? Is it because teams were left behind when the MW was created? Is it because as teams from a then, rapidly collapsing wac, came into the MW, they (fans anyway), came in with chips on their shoulders and something to prove mentality? Do you want to bury the MW, break away and reform/relive your wac days? Im happy for BSU and FSU, and hoping we (the MWC), gets the NY6 invite, and I will cheer for all MWC teams during bowl season, but I don’t see the ‘us versus them’ devision on this board?. For me it isn't anything personal like that. Just competetive bragging rights. We came in and have been in charge more often than not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTedfordTrain Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 6 hours ago, LoboMan59 said: I’m not sure I understand this “we’re the WAC” pride, some people have on this board? Is it because teams were left behind when the MW was created? Is it because as teams from a then, rapidly collapsing wac, came into the MW, they (fans anyway), came in with chips on their shoulders and something to prove mentality? Do you want to bury the MW, break away and reform/relive your wac days? Im happy for BSU and FSU, and hoping we (the MWC), gets the NY6 invite, and I will cheer for all MWC teams during bowl season, but I don’t see the ‘us versus them’ devision on this board?. One team got betrayed and the other was viewed as not good enough for an invitation for way too long. Now we’re here to kick your ass. Enjoy it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 8 hours ago, LoboMan59 said: I’m not sure I understand this “we’re the WAC” pride, some people have on this board? Is it because teams were left behind when the MW was created? Is it because as teams from a then, rapidly collapsing wac, came into the MW, they (fans anyway), came in with chips on their shoulders and something to prove mentality? Do you want to bury the MW, break away and reform/relive your wac days? Im happy for BSU and FSU, and hoping we (the MWC), gets the NY6 invite, and I will cheer for all MWC teams during bowl season, but I don’t see the ‘us versus them’ devision on this board?. From the Fresno State perspective, we were +++++ed over by the original MWC teams electing to leave without us because of the BYU hatred of Welty. By all rights, we should have been one of the original MWC teams, but it took another another 13 years for us to get an invitation. So while I do root for MWC teams to win in bowl games and OOC, I'm not at all disappointed when the old WAC teams kill off the original MWC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godogsgo Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 8 hours ago, roughrider said: Don't read too much into it LoboMan. It has more to do with how the WAC was looked at by you all back in the day then anything looking forward. This is home and we're all settled in. Exactly. It only comes up when folks bemoan how good they were in the good old days. Except they were the cellar dwellers back then too. If they lubed up and accepted their new bosses gracefully, it wouldn’t come up 2 Quote San Jose StateAnnounced: 85,235Scanned: 33,892Percentage: 39.8%Actual Attendance Per Game: 5,648 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Admirer from the East Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I do recall many on this Board were particularly against USU coming in. With the exception of SUDS, it is true that MWC FB is being dominated by the refills. Granted SJSU has been a FB disaster. Id say on the whole the current MWC @12 with a CCG is pretty awesome and will be even better after BYU comes to its senses and returns along UTSA or UNT. Sorry UTEP, no amount of nostalgia will ever get you in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAC_FAN Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Yes we are still bitter. The WAC invaded and has conquered the MWC left-behinds. Nevada is probably the only school without a reason to be bitter since they got their lifeline when the MWC schools ran off. In either case, the MWC schools just need to buy the WAC-name and history/record books (and a new commish) and take it over and all will be right again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artist formerly known as Hal Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Utah,BYU,TCU,BSU,Fresno,Nevada,Wyoming,UNLV,newmexico,SDSU,air force,CSU,Utah state,Hawaii would of been a great regional conference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycamper Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 12:42 AM, East Coast Aztec said: How bad must the WAC had been? Well you know how it goes, with a full 5 years of better media rights, recruiting, and coaching any team can start to compete in a better conference 21 hours ago, LoboMan59 said: I’m not sure I understand this “we’re the WAC” pride, some people have on this board? Is it because teams were left behind when the MW was created? Is it because as teams from a then, rapidly collapsing wac, came into the MW, they (fans anyway), came in with chips on their shoulders and something to prove mentality? Do you want to bury the MW, break away and reform/relive your wac days? Im happy for BSU and FSU, and hoping we (the MWC), gets the NY6 invite, and I will cheer for all MWC teams during bowl season, but I don’t see the ‘us versus them’ devision on this board?. I'd be happy if we bought the rights to the "WAC" name from the sad remnant of that conference and just re-branded ourselves as the continuation of the WAC. It is just a better conference name. 12 hours ago, retrofade said: From the Fresno State perspective, we were +++++ed over by the original MWC teams electing to leave without us because of the BYU hatred of Welty. By all rights, we should have been one of the original MWC teams, but it took another another 13 years for us to get an invitation. So while I do root for MWC teams to win in bowl games and OOC, I'm not at all disappointed when the old WAC teams kill off the original MWC. Fresno State voted to kill the early '90s, 10 team WAC that had good bowl tie-ins and that was well positioned to be a true counterweight to the Big East. You deserved your decade in the wilderness Quote Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, happycamper said: Well you know how it goes, with a full 5 years of better media rights, recruiting, and coaching any team can start to compete in a better conference I'd be happy if we bought the rights to the "WAC" name from the sad remnant of that conference and just re-branded ourselves as the continuation of the WAC. It is just a better conference name. Fresno State voted to kill the early '90s, 10 team WAC that had good bowl tie-ins and that was well positioned to be a true counterweight to the Big East. You deserved your decade in the wilderness I'm pretty sure that all ten presidents voted for that expand to 16 teams nonsense... in any event, we didn't make it happen on our own. Buying the WAC rights and re-branding back to it would be a pretty cool idea. The conference name is certainly steeped in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycamper Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, retrofade said: I'm pretty sure that all ten presidents voted for that expand to 16 teams nonsense... in any event, we didn't make it happen on our own. Buying the WAC rights and re-branding back to it would be a pretty cool idea. The conference name is certainly steeped in history. Yeah, and you voted yes. So did CSU but they already are CSU, it's not like anything we do to them is going to be worse than that Quote Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bob said: This Fresno guy also seems to have forgotten two years ago they were 1-11. It's all cyclical. And they gave us SJSU. This whole thread is just weird. Don't put that SJSU voodoo on us... that came about because Boise and SUDS were going to the AAC. We definitely don't forget about the having been worse than SJSU just a few years ago either... but despite that, we're still 50-40 with two conference championships and four division championships since we joined in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, happycamper said: Yeah, and you voted yes. So did CSU but they already are CSU, it's not like anything we do to them is going to be worse than that You voted yes as well, so what's the excuse there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycamper Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, retrofade said: You voted yes as well, so what's the excuse there? We voted no. It was a 6-4 vote. Quote Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrofade Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, happycamper said: We voted no. It was a 6-4 vote. I did some digging, and it looks like it was a 4-4 vote with Hawai'i breaking the tie... For Expansion CSU Fresno SDSU UTEP Against Expansion Air Force BYU Utah Wyoming New Mexico didn't vote, and Hawai'i broke the tie as the chair of the committee. That being said, it looks like Fresno, Hawai'i, and SDSU wanted SJSU and UNLV in the conference, and UTEP wanted to grab the leftover SWC schools. Neither expansion proposal had the votes on their own, so Fresno/SDSU made a deal with UTEP that was essentially, "you vote for ours, and we'll vote for yours". +++++ing stupid if that's how it happened... I think a lot of it is more apocryphal at this point though. Imagine what could have happened if we simply invited UNLV and TCU, and left everyone else out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...