CV147 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 So the notoriously hostile and mostly-uncontacted islanders of North Sentinel Island have killed another person, this time an American. I think they should be left alone. Their history includes a British kidnapping of islanders where the adults died and the children returned with horror stories. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/john-allen-chau-man-killed-by-tribe-north-sentinel-island-declare-jesus I admire their grit, to be honest. And to contact them would most certainly mean the end of their way of life and their possible extinction due to lack of immunities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV147 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 More about these islanders: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island Quote An expedition led by Maurice Vidal Portman, a government administrator who hoped to research the natives and their customs, accomplished a successful landing on North Sentinel Island in January 1880. The group found a network of pathways and several small, abandoned villages. After several days, six Sentinelese, an elderly couple and four children, were captured and taken to Port Blair. The colonial officer in charge of the operation wrote that the entire group, "sickened rapidly, and the old man and his wife died, so the four children were sent back to their home with quantities of presents".[2][20][21]:288 A second landing was made by Portman on 27 August 1883 after the eruption of Krakatoa was mistaken for gunfire and interpreted as the distress signal of a ship. A search party landed on the island and left gifts before returning to Port Blair.[2][21]:288 Portman visited the island several more times between January 1885 and January 1887.[21]:288 Quote In January 2006, two fishermen—fishing illegally—were killed by the Sentinelese when their boat drifted too close to the island. There were no prosecutions.[8] In November 2018, an American evangelist traveled to the island and was killed.[25][26] The fishermen who ferried him were prosecuted.[2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngredbullfan Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Self defense against would-be disease carriers and colonizers. I approve. 2 Quote On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said: I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite. 28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, CV147 said: So the notoriously hostile and mostly-uncontacted islanders of North Sentinel Island have killed another person, this time an American. I think they should be left alone. Their history includes a British kidnapping of islanders where the adults died and the children returned with horror stories. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/john-allen-chau-man-killed-by-tribe-north-sentinel-island-declare-jesus I admire their grit, to be honest. And to contact them would most certainly mean the end of their way of life and their possible extinction due to lack of immunities. Heard this yesterday on NPR. Truly amazing that such isolated societies still exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthlobo Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Went to visit my German friend in Frieburg last month. He's dating a girl from India and they showed us pictures and shared stories of their very extensive trip last year close to that island. The limited information known about them is fascinating. But ya, let's (civilized 1st world?) just leave them alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_SD_Dude Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I file the guy’s death under “evolution in action.” 5 Quote Thay Haif Said: Quhat Say Thay? Lat Thame Say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 They need to be left alone. But damn, ever since learning about these people I just want to know what they’re like. The stories they tell have to be amazing. Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CV147 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 Now they're trying to figure out how they can get his body back. The islanders buried him on the beach. I hope they don't try anything stupid. They should probably just leave him and not compound the mistake. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthlobo Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Not sure if he was exaggerating, but my friend told me some visitors in the past were eaten by the natives... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 15 hours ago, renoskier said: Heard this yesterday on NPR. Truly amazing that such isolated societies still exist. You should go to a road game at Laramie. Very similar. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Maitlin Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The Christians are not sending their best people. They're disease riddled. They're cultural rapists. Sure, some of them are probably good people.........I guess. 2 Quote SteelCityBlueNovember 24th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^I'm looking forward to a new head coach who isn't a cud-chewing autistic retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingGiantFan Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 On 11/22/2018 at 4:49 PM, youngrebelfan40 said: Self defense against would-be disease carriers and colonizers and Christians who think that by bringing them a football they'll accept Jesus Christ as their personal lord and savior. Quote Boom goes the dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Victor Maitlin said: The Christians are not sending their best people. They're disease riddled. They're cultural rapists. Sure, some of them are probably good people.........I guess. I think they’re more arrow riddled than disease riddled. 1 1 Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPslograd Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 On 11/22/2018 at 7:36 PM, Old_SD_Dude said: I file the guy’s death under “evolution in action.” I don't like that take. Look, he was a dumb myopic kid who got himself killed. It's just like those kids that go hiking into Afghanistan or Persia and get themselves killed. Did he have it coming? Of course. But he wasn't necessarily a bad guy, just naieve. Being flippant about it isn't right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPslograd Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Joe from WY said: They're dumbshits too. Anyone who does anything like this deserves anything that comes to them as a result of it, including a volley of arrows. Look on the bright side though, if it hadn't been the natives that got him, given the guy's apparent intellectual prowess illustrated by this move, he probably would have drowned in the next big rainstorm anyway. I get what you are saying. I just don't like the seeming giddiness that this kid got himself killed. It's like laughing about a frat boy drinking himself to death. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 24 minutes ago, CPslograd said: I don't like that take. Look, he was a dumb myopic kid who got himself killed. It's just like those kids that go hiking into Afghanistan or Persia and get themselves killed. Did he have it coming? Of course. But he wasn't necessarily a bad guy, just naieve. Being flippant about it isn't right. His naiveness was very bad though. He could have killed a lot of people with the pathogens he carried. It’s sad that he was so misguided and died for it, but it’s for the best that he didn’t get any farther towards his goal. 2 Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerules009 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, CPslograd said: I don't like that take. Look, he was a dumb myopic kid who got himself killed. It's just like those kids that go hiking into Afghanistan or Persia and get themselves killed. Did he have it coming? Of course. But he wasn't necessarily a bad guy, just naieve. Being flippant about it isn't right. This ignorance of religion got him killed. He followed billions of others in history to a meaningless death because of religion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerules009 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, CPslograd said: I get what you are saying. I just don't like the seeming giddiness that this kid got himself killed. It's like laughing about a frat boy drinking himself to death. There needs to be a little more evolution in this country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevada Convert Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Folks, this is 2018. My concern with ANY isolated group is simple. How much do they suffer in their daily lives, especially the women & children? Is it OK to let kids suffer just because we think it’s cool that there’s a little time capsule group out there? Some groups have customs that abuse women & children, some horrifically. That shit has to stop, and I could give a fvck if that ends their isolation if they lack civility. The purpose of moving forward with a more civilized world, one that moves towards the humane treatment of EVERY living creature, is to obviously eliminate suffering. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerules009 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said: Folks, this is 2018. My concern with ANY isolated group is simple. How much do they suffer in their daily lives, especially the women & children? Is it OK to let kids suffer just because we think it’s cool that there’s a little time capsule group out there? Some groups have customs that abuse women & children, some horrifically. That shit has to stop, and I could give a fvck if that ends their isolation if they lack civility. The purpose of moving forward with a more civilized world, one that moves towards the humane treatment of EVERY living creature, is to obviously eliminate suffering. So let's move in convert them to christianity, impose our values on them and probably kill them all with disease. Yeah, that will save them from suffering! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...