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17 minutes ago, happycamper said:

My man, Maxine Waters exists. Clinton - you know, the last Democratic presidential candidate? - said that we don't need to be civil.

Trump may have the biggest podium, and he may have struck harder and more frequently than those two I mentioned, but at least some Democrats have apparently looked at his rhetoric and found that the only thing wrong with it was the targets. 

It is a "blame everyone" moment you partisan peabrain.

There you go again faux moderate.   There is a difference between jaywalking and robbery my friend...but keep up your "both sides" BS

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It's interesting that there seems to be an immutable law of physics that states both sides must be equally crazy at all times, and suggesting that either side might have a lead in the crazy race, is just mere political hackery. 

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35 minutes ago, retrofade said:

Fake coffee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postum

My Seventh-day Adventist extended family all used to drink it when I was growing up. 

OK.   I guess I have heard of this.

Seems like anyone that doesn't drink coffee nowadays just drinks a Redbull or a Monster Energy.   Postum is probably an old person's drink.

 

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4 hours ago, mugtang said:

I’m not excusing Trump’s behavior.  I’ve consistently cringed at it and denounced it.  But to play the game that the right win/Trumpers blah blah are the only ones who’ve lost their mind when you're presented evidence to the contrary is partisan politics at its finest. 

But its the rightwing that for three decades has--on a daily basis--preached the gospel through their media hacks that the Democrats are "not real Americans," are dangerous, are wild-eyed leftists.  For God's sake, you had a mob the other day screaming at Nancy Pelosi that she was a communist.  Nancy Pelosi is a multi-millionaire, centrist.  In the sixties she literally would have been a Rockefeller Republican.  Bernie Sanders isn't really a socialist.  He's simply an old school New Deal Democrat, but the Republicans have moved so far to the right that even ideas that were once the dominant governing ideas in America are now viewed by their base as Communism.

And while I blame this primarily on the Republicans, I don't fail to give the Clintons and the rest of the third way DLC group a hearty assist in all of this.

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November 24th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^

I'm looking forward to a new head coach who isn't a cud-chewing autistic retard.

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I don’t think any side is for mailing bombs, poison, or shooting up congressional baseball practice. A stupid crazy person did this, not a side, and they will very soon be spending the rest of their sad life in prison.

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We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch.

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4 minutes ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

I don’t think any side is for mailing bombs, poison, or shooting up congressional baseball practice. A stupid crazy person did this, not a side, and they will very soon be spending the rest of their sad life in prison.

The problem is that one side has for a generation used a kind of rhetoric to fan the flames of their base that portrays the other side as alien and the enemies of America.  It was bad enough when it was the daily diatribe from Rush or Coulter or even some insignificant backbench Congressman, but now you have the actual President engaging in it.  They might have done it simply for political purposes, but eventually that kind of rhetoric is what the crazies latch onto and sometimes tragically act upon.  It's why I've been so disgusted by the Hillary cult's latching onto the Russia narrative the way they have.

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SteelCityBlue

November 24th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^

I'm looking forward to a new head coach who isn't a cud-chewing autistic retard.

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8 minutes ago, Victor Maitlin said:

But its the rightwing that for three decades has--on a daily basis--preached the gospel through their media hacks that the Democrats are "not real Americans," are dangerous, are wild-eyed leftists.  For God's sake, you had a mob the other day screaming at Nancy Pelosi that she was a communist.  Nancy Pelosi is a multi-millionaire, centrist.  In the sixties she literally would have been a Rockefeller Republican.  Bernie Sanders isn't really a socialist.  He's simply an old school New Deal Democrat, but the Republicans have moved so far to the right that even ideas that were once the dominant governing ideas in America are now viewed by their base as Communism.

And while I blame this primarily on the Republicans, I don't fail to give the Clintons and the rest of the third way DLC group a hearty assist in all of this.

Actually over the last 20 years Dems and GOP have gone about equally to the left and the right, respectively.  So it’s not a “the Republicans have gone so far to the right thing” as much as it’s a gap between the two has equally grown.  See the PEW Research GIF below showing the polarization of America  

 

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thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater

 

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1 minute ago, mugtang said:

Actually over the last 20 years Dems and GOP have gone about equally to the left and the right, respectively.  So it’s not a “the Republicans have gone so far to the right thing” as much as it’s a gap between the two has equally grown.  See the PEW Research GIF below showing the polarization of America  

 

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I'd agree with you if you're talking solely about social and identity issues.  If you're talking economics, the Democratic Party since 1988 has marched steadily to the right.  That triangulation is the very basis for Clintonist political tactics.  And the two are linked, Dems beat the drum on identity issues precisely to obscure how right of center they've become on issues like trade, banking regulations, healthcare reform and so on.  Here's a pretty well written piece of scholarship written at the end of Slick Willie's second term that does a good job detailing it.

https://monthlyreview.org/2001/04/01/neoliberalism-from-reagan-to-clinton/

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SteelCityBlue

November 24th, 2018 at 9:10 PM ^

I'm looking forward to a new head coach who isn't a cud-chewing autistic retard.

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12 minutes ago, Victor Maitlin said:

The problem is that one side has for a generation used a kind of rhetoric to fan the flames of their base that portrays the other side as alien and the enemies of America.  It was bad enough when it was the daily diatribe from Rush or Coulter or even some insignificant backbench Congressman, but now you have the actual President engaging in it.  They might have done it simply for political purposes, but eventually that kind of rhetoric is what the crazies latch onto and sometimes tragically act upon.  It's why I've been so disgusted by the Hillary cult's latching onto the Russia narrative the way they have.

Let me guess, it’s the side you disagree with? Is it filled with old, white, racist, misogynists who care only about propagating white supremacy, alongside a basket of Israel loving, immigrant hating, Nazi fascist deplorables?

We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch.

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22 minutes ago, Victor Maitlin said:

The problem is that one side has for a generation used a kind of rhetoric to fan the flames of their base that portrays the other side as alien and the enemies of America.  It was bad enough when it was the daily diatribe from Rush or Coulter or even some insignificant backbench Congressman, but now you have the actual President engaging in it.  They might have done it simply for political purposes, but eventually that kind of rhetoric is what the crazies latch onto and sometimes tragically act upon.  It's why I've been so disgusted by the Hillary cult's latching onto the Russia narrative the way they have.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-republicans-enemy-bill-clinton-wikileaks-229979

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“She made that crack about Republicans being her enemy," Bill Clinton said during a speech in Boston on Oct. 23, 2015, according to hacked documents released by WikiLeaks on Thursday. "She did not mean to have it proved so vividly the other day."

http://swampland.time.com/2013/09/26/obama-senior-adviser-compares-republicans-to-terrorists/

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In the latest escalation in the Obama administration’s war of words with congressional Republicans, White House Senior Adviser Dan Pfeiffer compared the GOP to terrorists in an interview on CNN Thursday. “We are for cutting spending. We are for reforming out tax codes, reforming out entitlements,” Pfeiffer told Jake Tapper. “What we’re not for is negotiating with people with a bomb strapped to their chest. We’re not going to do that.”

This oped is from when Trump called the press the enemy of the people but it points out a lot of the hypocrisy and rhetoric is used by both sides  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-lefts-hypocrisy-on-trumps-enemy-of-the-american-people-comment/2017/02/21/d2c81496-f83d-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html?utm_term=.6c57cc1ac2a2

 

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thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater

 

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And then the NYTIMES published this “short story” just yesterday:

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The Russian landed at Dulles after 48 hours of traveling. Of necessity, he came from Moscow by a circuitous route. A long way with a very specific task. There would be no return flight…

Around 11 p.m., his contact arrived. The man had been in deep cover for decades. In his briefcase was a bottle of Stolichnaya and a 9-millimeter Makarov semiautomatic pistol…

The Russian waited until they were a few steps past before he drew the gun. He sighted on the center of the president’s back, and squeezed the trigger.

The Makarov misfired.

The Secret Service agent at the president’s shoulder heard the click, spun into a crouch. He registered the scene instantly, drawing his own weapon with razor-edge reflexes.

The Russian tasted failure. He closed his eyes and waited to pay the cost.

It did not come.

He opened his eyes. The Secret Service agent stood before him, presenting his Glock, butt first.

“Here,” the agent said politely. “Use mine. …”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/23/books/review/trumps-next-chapter.html

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thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater

 

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25 minutes ago, Victor Maitlin said:

I'd agree with you if you're talking solely about social and identity issues.  If you're talking economics, the Democratic Party since 1988 has marched steadily to the right.  That triangulation is the very basis for Clintonist political tactics.  And the two are linked, Dems beat the drum on identity issues precisely to obscure how right of center they've become on issues like trade, banking regulations, healthcare reform and so on.  Here's a pretty well written piece of scholarship written at the end of Slick Willie's second term that does a good job detailing it.

https://monthlyreview.org/2001/04/01/neoliberalism-from-reagan-to-clinton/

 

31 minutes ago, mugtang said:

Actually over the last 20 years Dems and GOP have gone about equally to the left and the right, respectively.  So it’s not a “the Republicans have gone so far to the right thing” as much as it’s a gap between the two has equally grown.  See the PEW Research GIF below showing the polarization of America  

 

1BAFCACF-5B6A-4A1A-A604-64E0C26A071E.gif

Kind of interesting that the polarization was about the smallest in 2004 when Bush was running for re-election.

9/11 obviously pulled the mainstream together.

Then the tea party being upset with Bush spending and creating a bigger entitlements and Obama and the democrats thinking they ended republican political power in 2008.  Drove the polarization to where we are today.

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32 minutes ago, poke em said:

The CNN bomb that was x-rayed doesn't even look to be a real bomb. The large wires are just taped down behind the clock. They are not hooked to anything. Who knows about the other ones.

 

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Umm, you're an expert on bomb making?

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