pokebball Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/15/rachel-mckinnon-transgender-cyclist-calls-out-bigo/ I don't know what the answer here is, but is it really bigotry to to suggest this isn't fair? Quote The World Needs More Cowboys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawlorfaithful Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 No. But it’s cycling, so what constitutes fair is a little warped anyway. 4 2 Quote We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugtang Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, pokebball said: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/15/rachel-mckinnon-transgender-cyclist-calls-out-bigo/ I don't know what the answer here is, but is it really bigotry to to suggest this isn't fair? Congrats Progressives! You win! 2 Quote thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HR_Poke Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Is it a dude identifying as a chic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, thelawlorfaithful said: No. But it’s cycling, so what constitutes fair is a little warped anyway. 1 hour ago, pokebball said: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/15/rachel-mckinnon-transgender-cyclist-calls-out-bigo/ I don't know what the answer here is, but is it really bigotry to to suggest this isn't fair? Right? I don't think it's fair, but biology and science aren't what people are going for these days. Men still have more muscle mass, they have less body fat, and they aren't biologically female. So, in an athletic competition, I don't think it's fair. I think we'll see more and more trans people winning races on the female side of things over time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 The rules committee of an obscure sport no one cares about otherwise will decide what is fair and what is not fair. Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVGiant Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said: The rules committee of an obscure sport no one cares about otherwise will decide what is fair and what is not fair. You know what they say, as the Women’s Sprint 35-44 Age Bracket of the UCI Masters Tracks Cycling World Championships go, the world goes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTanked Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 You thought the anthem protests were bad... wait until the NFL gets its first transgendered player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevada Convert Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, SharkTanked said: You thought the anthem protests were bad... wait until the NFL gets its first transgendered player. You mean a kicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, NVGiant said: You know what they say, as the Women’s Sprint 35-44 Age Bracket of the UCI Masters Tracks Cycling World Championships go, the world goes. What's next, racing against dogs??? Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevada Convert Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Of course it’s not fair. How could it be. I don’t think you’re going to see many women to men tranny’s in professional sports, but it’ll be a problem in women’s sports as we’re seeing. A similar argument goes for disabled competing with extra help like that sprinter had those flexible lower leg apparatus making it easy to go faster. The the golfer that got to ride in a cart the entire time. This whole transgender thing gets waaaaaaaay more publicity in all areas of life than it deserves when you look at how few people there really are, and we all know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevada Convert Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 32 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said: The rules committee of an obscure sport no one cares about otherwise will decide what is fair and what is not fair. Maybe the women cycling folks can fix the problem by including a quick swimsuit or evening gown competition that’s added to the score. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modestobulldog Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, HR_Poke said: Is it a dude identifying as a chic? It doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokebball Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said: The rules committee of an obscure sport no one cares about otherwise will decide what is fair and what is not fair. Ah come on man, you have an opinion on everything else Quote The World Needs More Cowboys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said: Maybe the women cycling folks can fix the problem by including a quick swimsuit or evening gown competition that’s added to the score. You unwittingly speak to a truth here. I don't see people asking if it's fair that Anna Kournikova or Danica Patrick made piles more money than the women who were objectively better than them at their respective sports. Trans women have a ceiling clearly built in to their success. So conservative dudes who suddenly care about women's sports can relax. Your daughters will still be able to make plenty of money selling sex through advertising if they are defeated on the playing field by a guy who decided to cut his junk off or tuck it. 1 Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokebball Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, smltwnrckr said: You unwittingly speak to a truth here. I don't see people asking if it's fair that Anna Kournikova or Danica Patrick made piles more money than the women who were objectively better than them at their respective sports. Trans women have a ceiling clearly built in to their success. So conservative dudes who suddenly care about women's sports can relax. Your daughters will still be able to make plenty of money selling sex through advertising if they are defeated by a guy who decided to cut his junk off on the playing field. I feel so much better 1 1 Quote The World Needs More Cowboys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modestobulldog Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Transgender prisoner a accused of raping women prisoners. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/06/transgender-person-accused-rape-remanded-female-prison-sexually/ Women's shelter fertile ground for assault: http://amp.fresnobee.com/news/local/article219560720.html#aoh=15396447297186&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s Relax though, attorneys will make bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modestobulldog Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, smltwnrckr said: You unwittingly speak to a truth here. I don't see people asking if it's fair that Anna Kournikova or Danica Patrick made piles more money than the women who were objectively better than them at their respective sports. Trans women have a ceiling clearly built in to their success. So conservative dudes who suddenly care about women's sports can relax. Your daughters will still be able to make plenty of money selling sex through advertising if they are defeated on the playing field by a guy who decided to cut his junk off. I don't think castration is a requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, modestobulldog said: I don't think castration is a requirement. OK, I fixed it. Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smltwnrckr Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, modestobulldog said: Transgender prisoner a accused of raping women prisoners. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/06/transgender-person-accused-rape-remanded-female-prison-sexually/ Women's shelter fertile ground for assault: http://amp.fresnobee.com/news/local/article219560720.html#aoh=15396447297186&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s I didn't know you were so interested in the issue of prisoners being sexually assaulted. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/us/pennsylvania-prison-guards-sexual-abuse.html https://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/more_women_behind_bars_in_nj_allege_sexual_assault.html https://nypost.com/2018/05/30/inmate-says-prison-counselor-sexually-assaulted-her-after-reporting-guard-for-rape/ https://www.themarshallproject.org/records/50-prison-abuse Quote Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...