TheTedfordTrain Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, Joe from WY said: Sounds like Clovis minus the 2% beer part. And all those weird ass mormon gangs. Fresno just has normal gangs. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 19 hours ago, Jack Bauer said: Do you fellas think this stuff is super witty? This joke is like Uncle Randy at the family get together making wisecracks about Bush 2 last summer. Is Wilson up to 6 or 7 kids by now, Aspirations for EQ president? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCoug Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 8 hours ago, TheTedfordTrain said: Oh, yeah. If he could only swap with Provo, Utah. What a desirable location. 2% beer, rampant opioid abuse, and suburban house moms popping pills like candy. What an oasis. Still better than the armpit of CA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTedfordTrain Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: Still better than the armpit of CA... Sure, bud. Provo, Utah...let’s go there on vacation or better yet, move there! Such a fun place. Said no one ever. Well, maybe some have gone there only to people watch all the freaking cultish weirdos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #1Stunner Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Would someone here be willing to start a post about Fresno State? Pretend you care about Bulldogs football? Or alternatively, a post bashing SJSU? Our resident Fresneck fan is getting upset that no one cares about his school, or has any interest in visiting Fresno. He needs some attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkysDad Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 The problem with any future BYU coaching search is the same as the overall problem with the program. Along with the built-in player recruiting issues (Honor Code for example) AND the built-in coaching recruiting restrictions due to Church ownership, now, on top of those, you have the heinous Independent scheduling, which is a perfect road map for failure given the other two issues. What right-minded, young, rising-star coaching genius is going to have his next stop be BYU? #careerkiller As a shining example, where would Sitake go if he is fired at BYU? Not "up", that's for sure... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #1Stunner Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, SparkysDad said: The problem with any future BYU coaching search is the same as the overall problem with the program. Along with the built-in player recruiting issues (Honor Code for example) AND the built-in coaching recruiting restrictions due to Church ownership, now, on top of those, you have the heinous Independent scheduling, which is a perfect road map for failure given the other two issues. What right-minded, young, rising-star coaching genius is going to have his next stop be BYU? #careerkiller As a shining example, where would Sitake go if he is fired at BYU? Not "up", that's for sure... Don't kid yourself. The BYU head coach position rarely opens up, and is pursued by good candidates any time it opens up. Granted, it's s smaller pool. But if it opened up tommorow there would be quality candidates, with at least as good of a resume as the caliber coach that any MWC school would look to hire. Also, you only emphasized the challenges. The fact is that BYU has a built-in recruiting pool (LDS, Polynesian, Idahoans), has a very large fanbase, a larger budget than any G5, an ESPN deal (along with Boise). Those are all big positives. So it is not nearly as bad as you are trying to argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmartigan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 36 minutes ago, TheTedfordTrain said: Sure, bud. Provo, Utah...let’s go there on vacation or better yet, move there! Such a fun place. Said no one ever. Well, maybe some have gone there only to people watch all the freaking cultish weirdos. My wife is from part of the armpit, Visalia, to be exact. I can say with high confidence I would much rather live in Visalia. Quote There are only two things I can't stand in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCoug Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, TheTedfordTrain said: Sure, bud. Provo, Utah...let’s go there on vacation or better yet, move there! Such a fun place. Said no one ever. Well, maybe some have gone there only to people watch all the freaking cultish weirdos. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2018/05/26/fastest-growing-and-shrinking-us-cities/34813515/ 11. Provo-Orem, Utah 2010-2017 population change: +16.5% (from 530,238 to 617,675) 2010-2017 pop. change due to migration: +18,739 Largest 12 month change: +17,895 (2015-2016) Median household income: $69,288 Oddly missing from the list of fastest growing cities? Yep, the ARMPIT OF CA... Fresno! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #1Stunner Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Cute Video from Zach Wilson's little sister, doing a school assignment. It's going to be strange not having a 35 year old QB starting. This kid Zach Wilson is young!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTedfordTrain Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2018/05/26/fastest-growing-and-shrinking-us-cities/34813515/ 11. Provo-Orem, Utah 2010-2017 population change: +16.5% (from 530,238 to 617,675) 2010-2017 pop. change due to migration: +18,739 Largest 12 month change: +17,895 (2015-2016) Median household income: $69,288 Oddly missing from the list of fastest growing cities? Yep, the ARMPIT OF CA... Fresno! 18,739 people in search of some magical stones. Impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCoug Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, TheTedfordTrain said: 18,739 people in search of some magical stones. Impressive We get it... you like armpits. Congrats, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #1Stunner Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: We get it... you like armpits. Congrats, I guess. But don't you know, Fresneck is an oasis? I mean, probably 1% of BYU fans even live in Provo (in Utah, there is a new city every 3 miles). Only about 30% of BYU alums are even from Utah. But even if you are comparing Fresneck to Provo, who can't love these attractive numbers: AVG HOUSEHOLD INCOMES: Provo - $69,288 Fresneck - $48,715 https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/utah/provo/ https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/california/fresno/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester_in_reno Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Magnum couldn't deliver anymore: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCoug Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Lester_in_reno said: Magnum couldn't deliver anymore: Ahem... that would be an Honor Code violation!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkysDad Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, #1Stunner said: Don't kid yourself. The BYU head coach position rarely opens up, and is pursued by good candidates any time it opens up. Granted, it's s smaller pool. But if it opened up tommorow there would be quality candidates, with at least as good of a resume as the caliber coach that any MWC school would look to hire. Also, you only emphasized the challenges. The fact is that BYU has a built-in recruiting pool (LDS, Polynesian, Idahoans), has a very large fanbase, a larger budget than any G5, an ESPN deal (along with Boise). Those are all big positives. So it is not nearly as bad as you are trying to argue. So give me a list of realistic candidates should Sitake get the axe. I just remember the last HC opening, when they hired a failing DC from a lowest-tier Pac 12 program... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkysDad Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, #1Stunner said: Don't kid yourself. The BYU head coach position rarely opens up, and is pursued by good candidates any time it opens up. Granted, it's s smaller pool. But if it opened up tommorow there would be quality candidates, with at least as good of a resume as the caliber coach that any MWC school would look to hire. Also, you only emphasized the challenges. The fact is that BYU has a built-in recruiting pool (LDS, Polynesian, Idahoans), has a very large fanbase, a larger budget than any G5, an ESPN deal (along with Boise). Those are all big positives. So it is not nearly as bad as you are trying to argue. Your advantages are all second-rate compared to the decent P5 teams on your schedule! It's circular...if you hire a worse coach than half the teams on your schedule, have worse athletes than half the teams on your schedule, have a fanbase not as big (and dwindling in BYU's case due to the program not performing as well), have a smaller budget than half the teams on your schedule, and a similar or worse TV deal than half the teams on your schedule, you will struggle to win half the games on your schedule and be around a .500 football program. And speaking of circular, being a struggling-to-reach .500 football program with Church restrictions and an over-the-head-of-the-program schedule is why BYU will struggle to get a significantly better coach... That's what Independence has done for BYU and let's face it, these are the primary reasons Bronco left! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #1Stunner Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, SparkysDad said: So give me a list of realistic candidates should Sitake get the axe. I just remember the last HC opening, when they hired a failing DC from a lowest-tier Pac 12 program... I don't really know the answer to that.... That'd be Tom Holmoe's job. Names thrown around are an assistant from Bronco Mendenhall's staff, Jay Hill (coach at Weber State who has transformed their program), Ken Niumatalolo (who has been very successful at Navy, and now might be willing to move, since he has vested his retirement from Navy), Anderson at Stanford, Darrell Bevell, or....who knows. Obviously, BYU isn't going to hire Nick Saban or Urban Meyer level of coach. But they will get guys with similar resumes to what Bryan Harsin had when he applied for Boise's job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, SparkysDad said: Your advantages are all second-rate compared to the decent P5 teams on your schedule! It's circular...if you hire a worse coach than half the teams on your schedule, have worse athletes than half the teams on your schedule, have a fanbase not as big (and dwindling in BYU's case due to the program not performing as well), have a smaller budget than half the teams on your schedule, and a similar or worse TV deal than half the teams on your schedule, you will struggle to win half the games on your schedule and be around a .500 football program. And speaking of circular, being a struggling-to-reach .500 football program with Church restrictions and an over-the-head-of-the-program schedule is why BYU will struggle to get a significantly better coach... That's what Independence has done for BYU and let's face it, these are the primary reasons Bronco left! Ouch.. This one will leave a mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest #1Stunner Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 18 minutes ago, SparkysDad said: Your advantages are all second-rate compared to the decent P5 teams on your schedule! It's circular...if you hire a worse coach than half the teams on your schedule, have worse athletes than half the teams on your schedule, have a fanbase not as big (and dwindling in BYU's case due to the program not performing as well), have a smaller budget than half the teams on your schedule, and a similar or worse TV deal than half the teams on your schedule, you will struggle to win half the games on your schedule and be around a .500 football program. And speaking of circular, being a struggling-to-reach .500 football program with Church restrictions and an over-the-head-of-the-program schedule is why BYU will struggle to get a significantly better coach... That's what Independence has done for BYU! OK, but BYU only plays about 5 P5 games per year. BYU plays about 7-8 G5s per year. You act like BYU has 12 P5 games per year. The schedule isn't that difficult (ask the Ute fans on here...who say that BYU has a "creampuff schedule" all the time, and point to the MWC games BYU plays). And the reason that Sitake's job is in jeopardy is not that BYU lost to Cal or Washington....its' that he's lost to low level G5 teams like UMass, SJSU, Fresneck, etc. Also, you are emphasizing only the negatives... The "Church restrictions" win BYU as many recruits as they lose. BYU's starting QB this week was a long time Boise commit, and BYU didn't even recruit him to the very end when they needed a QB. Once they offered, the kid immediately switched to BYU. So, the "challenges" are partially a strength. Also, as long as half of Tonga / Samoa is Mormon, BYU is going to get solid college football players. So yes.... BYU has challenges. But your narrative that BYU isn't an appealing job for a head coach is dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
