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6 hours ago, UNLV2001 said:

Anyone with ears knows he's a compulsive liar - the likes we've never seen from a presidency - Sadly quite a few can't see or grasp the obvious :unsure:

I don't think Obama was compulsive about lying at all.  I think it was a premeditated action to gain a specific advantage every time he did it.  Obama didn't waste his lies or his credibility, he used them with intent and fooled the stupid people over and over and over.:)

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8 hours ago, Boise fan said:

All you have to do is look at history. And then match that to the admitted goals of prominent conservatives working within the GOP (past and present).  It has been a concerted effort to demonize the term "liberal" for at least twenty-five years.  The fruit of that labor is rife on this board.  I doubt there are more than one or two conservatives here that don't equate liberals with socialists and communists.  If you repeat lies long enough and forcefully enough, they can become the "truth" to many.  That's exactly what has happened.

There has never been anything even remotely comparable on the Democrat side.  There were no oath documents, no meetings about non-cooperation policies even if it meant shutting government down.  That's your party. 

The response by liberals has been very slow.  Probably because one of the tenets of being liberal is to be tolerant.  Something that conservatism isn't held to.

I can't think of anything that suggests "less government" is anything but lip service the GOP offers their followers.

The GOP absolutely wants complete power.  They have the house and senate, and they rushed through this supreme court nominee, despite the fact that he proved himself he didn't have the temperament. Why? Power.

George W Bush became President because of a Supreme Court ruling.  The biggest mistake "liberals" made was trying to be fair when conservatives whined about it being wrong if Obama picked the SCOTUS during an election year.  It's obvious now that conservatives look at those actions simply as weakness, and only care about power and winning.

That is the worst possible thing for this country.  As is having a one party government.  And that's exactly where we're headed.

You can look at that and claim "oh, typical liberal, his side lost so he's upset", but that would so completely miss the mark, it's like you can't even see the target.  Winning isn't everything.  And it's not about winning. It's about what's best for the country.  Apparently cons have stopped caring about that a long time ago.

"Liberals" has just become synonymous with being against the Trump cult of personality.  Anyone who doesn't want the government having jurisdiction over people's bodies (drugs, abortion, etc.) is also a "liberal" in their mind.  If you want some tightening of gun laws you are a "liberal" too.  This term has really no meaning anymore.  

What exactly do people who fancy themselves as "conservatives" actually believe in these days?  Giant budget deficits?  Maintaining Obamacare pre-existing conditions?  Restoring white hegemony?  Overturning science?  Russia isn't so bad? Activist superlegislator judges? The Republicans have literally thrown or changed positions on every single thing they have said they believed in in order to get power.  They have no ideology...other than they want power.   They can hold contradictory views in their heads simultaneously or change ideology or go against what they said yesterday in that pursuit.  George Orwell could write another book on how people can self delude and change themselves just to get power. 

Every time I say that I favor returning a lot of power to the states from the federal government people on this board are like, "Wow, I thought you were a communist/socialist but when I actually listen to what you say that makes a lot of sense."  About every six months they forget I say this and we have the same conversation once again!   Soon, since they think I am a "liberal" they return to the Pavlovian assumption that I am the enemy.  Only Trump defines what it means to be a conservative.  "Akkula and his liberal agenda, like advocating for balanced budget, are at it again!"  "He wants to make us like Venezuela and have a soviet style planned economy."  I feel like I am in the twilight zone here sometimes.  The "liberals" ideas are setup kind of parody in the Trump party members mind so they can completely dismiss and ram through their agenda to get power using whatever ideology or angle du jour.

This is why people who are against the excesses of the GWB and Trumpian administrations need to get more bare knuckle.  The same political party has literally changed almost everything they say they believe in this century.  They only thing they still agree on is that "the liberals" (the people who don't change their core beliefs and rhetoric to maintain Republican power) are the enemy.  People who are against this destructive Republicanism that began with Rush and Newt need to ban together and be just as bare knuckle in taking power away from these irresponsible and ineffective stewards before they change America permanently.

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11 hours ago, toonkee said:

Someone mentioned victims... 

 

Just slightly more persuasive than Don Jr's comments made the other day.

But then Noah's IQ is just slightly higher than Don Jr's.

As is my cat's.

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Boom goes the dynamite.

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15 hours ago, pokebball said:

Ruled?  I'm pretty sure all of our leaders were elected.  Think about that.

You are wearing your ignorance of history on your sleeve.  Think about that.

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14 hours ago, Boise fan said:

Doubling down I see. 

Are you feigning ignorance, or are you genuinely that lost?

I see nobody wants to address my last post.  Just like Trump they all scream Venezuela and Socialism but don't want to discuss the issues.  They can't even define what makes them so conservative versus what makes me such a crazy liberal.  Like I said, they can't even define what "liberals" are nor can they define why their policies are conservative with any substance.  Just like with healthcare, they can't talk the details and they just demagogue for their team.  What the hell do these people even believe these days?  Is it just team Trump/Fox or whatever he/they tells them to believe that day for their core belief system?

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There’s a solution to this Trump entire debate: vote. The Democratic Party has nothing to blame but itself for this situation.

And Slapdad is right. Ergo I’ll vote for Rosen in Nevada only because the only thing more scary than Trump is the fact that the buffoon has control over the house and senate. 

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7 hours ago, Akkula said:

I see nobody wants to address my last post.  Just like Trump they all scream Venezuela and Socialism but don't want to discuss the issues.  They can't even define what makes them so conservative versus what makes me such a crazy liberal.  Like I said, they can't even define what "liberals" are nor can they define why their policies are conservative with any substance.  Just like with healthcare, they can't talk the details and they just demagogue for their team.  What the hell do these people even believe these days?  Is it just team Trump/Fox or whatever he/they tells them to believe that day for their core belief system?

The rechtie's here aren't interested in explaining themselves, they are interested in demonizing the "opposition" and whining like babies when a Dem is in office, and dancing around like buffoons when a conservative is in office.  They also don't really care what that con's policies are, so long as it moves the country closer to a one party system where the GOP has complete control going forward.  All while loudly warning about the dangers of "liberal" governments.  One irony is a lot of them are self-professed libertarians.  Few libertarians I've dealt with have any real grasp of history.  So they don't understand that democracies die after electing idiots who make the system gamed for one party.  They also don't realize (or perhaps care) about the methods the GOP has gone to restrict voting ability of non-cons. Or the relevance of doing so.

Conflating terms to make them sufficiently gray enough to be catch-all is something they've been doing for a long time. It's no wonder so many here can't make the distinction, even when handed a dictionary.

None of the liberals on this board are crazy or far left, despite the loud pronouncements of morons like the Tool and his cadre of neo-contards. 

And it will be sad but predictable that if they do get what they want, when it all goes to shit (as they always do), they'll still deflect to their "enemies".

Let's just hope that these contards aren't the ones who support or would turn a blind eye to the purging of "undesirables" that happens so frequently in such systems.

Wouldn't the ultimate irony be that cons assemble arsenals to protect themselves from government "tyranny", only to create that tyranny themselves? 

Actually that would be pretty much par for the course. History is rife with examples of vocal minorities warning about tyranny only to install their own upon gaining ultimate power.

Liberals might need to seriously consider arming themselves.  Winter's coming.  :D

 

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29 minutes ago, UNLV2001 said:

PopularitY around the globe has soared in Israel !!! Everywhere else it's not going so good for the orange clown - They can see he's a joke 

 

None of that matters to Trumpists. They regard the disdain of foreigners as a badge of honor. #MAGA

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This from awhile back since the orange clown thinks George Soros is paying all the protesters !! :Clapping:

Even the firm that hired actors to cheer Trump’s campaign launch had to wait to be paid

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/20/even-the-firm-that-hired-actors-to-cheer-trumps-campaign-launch-had-to-wait-to-be-paid/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e755bafc7220

Carrie Levine of the Center for Public Integrity found a report from the Federal Election Commission examining an under-reported aspect of Trump's campaign launch. Trump's announcement, held on the lower level of the Trump Tower lobby, was framed by cheering crowds watching from the floors above. Some of the members of that crowd, it was soon reported, were apparently paid to be there.

The Hollywood Reporter sussed out the evidence. An email from a firm called Extra Mile, soliciting people to be paid $50 to attend "an event in support of Donald Trump and an upcoming exciting announcement he will be making." Instagram photos of an actor in attendance that day. A reference in that email to Gotham Government Relations, the firm that hired Extra Mile and which Trump had used in the past.

What Levine found, though, was that there was another level of detail to those actors showing up. In short: The Trump campaign failed to pay the $12,000 bill from Gotham until about a month after a complaint had been filed with the FEC. The delay between the time Gotham was hired -- June -- and when it was paid -- October -- essentially means that Gotham floated credit to the campaign for those four months, potentially making it a campaign contribution.

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On 10/7/2018 at 2:24 PM, mysfit said:

He's a liar and it isn't that people believe him. It's that they want things to be the way he portrays them. They identify with a bully who gets what he wants and the ends justify the means.

 

They don't care about fairness unless it's fairness to them. They don't care about immigrants, women, minorities. LGBT. They want to go back in time when white men ruled and everyone else was in their proper place.

Apparently you don’t care about women either, because if you did, you’d care more about presenting an intelligent and classy image for women when you write and speak. 

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17 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

Apparently you don’t care about women either, because if you did, you’d care more about presenting an intelligent and classy image for women when you write and speak. 

So you must hate men.

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It's still "We the People"  right? People are enjoying watching the snake oil salesman show by Crooked Donald and Co.

Woke people don't enjoy it and consider it deplorable. Personally, I'm bored with the spin and nonsense. Every single thing has to be spun into idiotic phrases and buzzwords but the IRS has always had the NYT info, not sure what they're waiting for. If you or I commited tax evasion for even $5 they would want to prosecute us to the fullest extent, this guy is in the hole for over $500 million and they sit on their hands and wait fir his buddy Kavanot to try to help him skate.

 

 

 

 

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On 10/7/2018 at 11:57 PM, Slapdad said:

So you're suggesting that Conservatives, who generally favor less government, want power and control over others? If that's the case, it seems that they're going about it all wrong. And if you think that conservatives have been sowing fear into Americans about liberals and that liberals haven't done the same about conservatives, then that's just proof positive that your posting with your heart and not looking at this objectively. No one party is more guilty or innocent on this (and most things) than the other. 

No.....

 

Must-watch moment—

Cory Booker to @MSNBC on the health bill: "This will cost American lives if it ever becomes law. This will mean death."

 
 

 

 

 

This isn’t football. It’s not about scoring points. #AHCA will devastate Americans’ healthcare. Families will go bankrupt. People will die.

 
 

 

 

Those who are sick will suffer, and some of them will die. This is a shame and a disgrace. May God have mercy on us all.

 
 

 

 

 

This is a rare "life or death" vote. Thousands will die if this bill becomes law. Upton amendment is just political cover for cowards.

 
 

 

 

House GOP, I hope you slept well last night. Because after this vote, you will have the death of thousands of your conscience forever.

 
 

 

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) has been one of the most willing to espouse such brooding rhetoric. The Vermont senator has on multiple occasions claimed that "thousands will die" if Republicans successfully repeal Obamacare.

 

Let us be clear and this is not trying to be overly dramatic: Thousands of people will die if the Republican health care bill becomes law.

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