Much of BYU's new offense derived from Boise State's past

[Pelado]

https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/09/25/byu-cougars-fly-sweep-offense-jeff-grimes
 

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The presnap sweep motion is essential to the scheme. Grimes learned it during the first big break in his coaching career as an assistant for Dirk Koetter at Boise State in 2000. Koetter’s offensive coordinator Dan Hawkins had brought the fly system to Boise from Willamette College, then an NAIA program in Oregon. The roots of the fly sweep are in the desert valley of California, where a high school coach named Gene Beck is believed to have created the system. (The full timeline of the scheme’s dissemination can be found at the bottom of this story.) Koetter’s success at Boise State resulted in him landing the head job at Arizona State in 2001.

“When Dirk left for Arizona State, he asked me for two favors,” Hawkins said in an interview last year. “One of them was, ‘Don’t give away anything on the fly.’”

 

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Sitake even let Grimes run a trick play against Wisconsin. “Bucky” was designed just for the Badgers and named after their mascot. The play went for a 31-yard touchdown. Mangum threw a lateral pass to Hifo that was designed to look like a quick screen, and with the defense drawn up, Hifo turned and threw downfield to the wide open Laulu-Pututau. Aaron Roderick, BYU’s pass game coordinator and quarterbacks coach, was behind the concept, which he had seen Boise State run in the past. “We looked at a video of Boise running that play. It fit for me. We decided it on Monday and practiced it every day,” Grimes says. “Timed out perfect and it worked out just like we saw Boise do it.”

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Dan Hawkins: After learning the system on Maas’s staff at Siskiyous in the late 1980s, Hawkins led Willamette College to the NAIA championship game, which propelled him to the offensive coordinator job at Boise State, where he exposed the fly to major college football. Hawkins, after head coaching stops at Boise State and Colorado, is now the coach at UC Davis, where his RBs coach is Mark Speckman.

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Dirk Koetter: With Hawkins running his fly-centric offense, Koetter and the Broncos rolled to back-to-back 10-win seasons in 1999 and 2000, jump-starting a dynasty of efficient offenses at Boise State. The Broncos’ success got Koetter the job at Arizona State, and he brought a young offensive line coach named Jeff Grimes to Tempe with him.

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Jeff Grimes: Grimes, in his first year as an offensive coordinator at BYU, is using a similar system to what Koetter used with success at Boise State nearly two decades ago and what Canada refined at LSU in 2017.

 

[Guest #1Stunner]

#BYUbeatBoise

#StayWoke

 

[roughrider]

It's not stupid to try and copy success.  Kudos to Grimes for not forgetting what he learned here.  

 

[AndroidAggie]

 

[Lester_in_reno]

"Copy Cats" are in football coaching?

No way!!

[SparkysDad]

nm

[BroncoOrange]

3 hours ago, #1Stunner said:

#BYUbeatBoise

#StayWoke

 

Can't beat, then imitate them.

[godogsgo]

Blue turf ETA in Provo:  1.5 years

[kingpotato]

The only problem with all those quotes was that Hawk was never the OC at Boise. He was the Special Teams Coordinator and Associate HC. Koetter was always his own OC. Hawk did talk him into integrating the fly-sweep into the offense, but he was never OC.

[Slapdad]

4 hours ago, BroncoOrange said:

Can't beat, then imitate them.

Willamette College?

[bluerules009]

There is nothing new in football.  We ran fly sweeps in the 60's and 70's in high school.   Our coach had played for Tony Knap and brought that offense to our school.

Paul Brown or someone before him probably invented it.

[Jeffkills]

9 hours ago, #1Stunner said:

#BYUbeatBoise

#StayWoke

 

I like you going back to Milton in your Avatar..

BTW, is our PG 13 BSU/BYU sig bet for a month or a week??

[Guest #1Stunner]

6 hours ago, Jeffkills said:

I like you going back to Milton in your Avatar..

BTW, is our PG 13 BSU/BYU sig bet for a month or a week??

I'm not sure.  We can do either one.

[NevadaFan]

6 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

There is nothing new in football.  We ran fly sweeps in the 60's and 70's in high school.   Our coach had played for Tony Knap and brought that offense to our school.

Paul Brown or someone before him probably invented it.

Ha! No wonder you treat people like chit on this board. You played before Bike and Riddell helmets were invented. Hahahahahahahaha. 

[Jeffkills]

8 hours ago, #1Stunner said:

I'm not sure.  We can do either one. 

I guess we're gonna have to consider the repercussions of a loss, Mr. Stunner!!

On the Blue all day!

[Guest #1Stunner]

30 minutes ago, Jeffkills said:

I guess we're gonna have to consider the repercussions of a loss, Mr. Stunner!!

On the Blue all day!

Ha! 

JeffKills, you are a legend!

[Jalapeno]

On 9/25/2018 at 3:20 PM, roughrider said:

It's not stupid to try and copy success.  Kudos to Grimes for not forgetting what he learned here.  

  

And learning from the failures at CU.