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Some Of The Oldest Ice In The Arctic Is Now Breaking Apart

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A huge pack of floating ice along the northern Greenland coastline is breaking up and drifting apart into the Arctic Ocean — another consequence, scientists say, of global warming caused by the buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

"We've never seen anything this large in terms of an opening north of Greenland," says polar scientist Ted Scambos of the National Snow and Ice Data Center, which collaborates with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/23/641285739/some-of-the-oldest-ice-in-the-arctic-is-now-breaking-apart

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This is just stupid and ignorant reporting.

Everyday the oldest ice is breaking off and it has been that way the whole time there has been a glacier because that is how glaciers work.

If ice was building up in Greenland and we were heading for an ice age, the oldest ice still would be breaking off.  That's how it works.

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2 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

This is just stupid and ignorant reporting.

Everyday the oldest ice is breaking off and it has been that way the whole time there has been a glacier because that is how glaciers work.

The issue is not the calving of glaciers.  It is about the melting of the ice sheet.  Here is where you can see a video explaining the problem:

 

http://education.abc.net.au/home#!/media/2266091/what-greenland-s-ice-tells-us-about-climate-change

 

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1 hour ago, RiverCityBronco said:

A huge pack of floating ice along the northern Greenland coastline is breaking up and drifting apart into the Arctic Ocean — another consequence, scientists say, of global warming caused by the buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

"We've never seen anything this large in terms of an opening north of Greenland," says polar scientist Ted Scambos of the National Snow and Ice Data Center, which collaborates with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/23/641285739/some-of-the-oldest-ice-in-the-arctic-is-now-breaking-apart

Is it similar to aged wine?

I'd like to make a snowcone with some of the oldest ice on earth.

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10 minutes ago, sandiegopete said:

The issue is not the calving of glaciers.  It is about the melting of the ice sheet.  Here is where you can see a video explaining the problem:

 

http://education.abc.net.au/home#!/media/2266091/what-greenland-s-ice-tells-us-about-climate-change

 

Still stupid, the ice sheets have been shrinking for 12000 years.  At much faster rates during that time then is happening now.  This happens in cycles.    Your link is nothing more than propaganda.

Image result for sea level rise last 10000 years

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14 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

Still stupid, the ice sheets have been shrinking for 12000 years.  At much faster rates during that time then is happening now.  This happens in cycles.    Your link is nothing more than propaganda.

Image result for sea level rise last 10000 years

So if you ignore the smartest scientist in the world on a science based issue, who is it that you are listening to?  Seriously, this issue really isn’t even a debate anymore.  

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2 hours ago, RiverCityBronco said:

So if you ignore the smartest scientist in the world on a science based issue, who is it that you are listening to?  Seriously, this issue really isn’t even a debate anymore.  

It isn't a debate that there is global warming.

It isn't a debate the ice sheets are shrinking, they have been for 12000 years.

There is no conclusive evidence any of it is man caused.   If the "smartest scientist in the world is saying that", all we need is him to provide us that data.  Since no one else can and no one else can predict climate for a day, a year or a decade accurately it is pretty obvious they don't understand the all the variables.  No matter how many times you get your news from the late night comedy shows.

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1 hour ago, bluerules009 said:

It isn't a debate that there is global warming.

It isn't a debate the ice sheets are shrinking, they have been for 12000 years.

There is no conclusive evidence any of it is man caused.   If the "smartest scientist in the world is saying that", all we need is him to provide us that data.  Since no one else can and no one else can predict climate for a day, a year or a decade accurately it is pretty obvious they don't understand the all the variables.  No matter how many times you get your news from the late night comedy shows.

Here is where you can listen to what the smartest scientists in the world have to say:

 

http://www.caltech.edu/news/caltech-and-jpl-experts-discuss-climate-change-42608

 

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1 hour ago, sandiegopete said:

Here is where you can listen to what the smartest scientists in the world have to say:

 

http://www.caltech.edu/news/caltech-and-jpl-experts-discuss-climate-change-42608

 

 

The smartest guys are writing peer reviewed papers on studies with actual findings not getting paid to be media hacks by an agenda driven non-profit.

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I don’t doubt the earth is warming.  That’s verifiable fact.  The notion that it’s all caused by man is where I take issue and it is NOT a universal truth in the science community no matter how much CNN and MSNBC say it is.  There are dissenting views on it.

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People can believe anything their church tells them to believe BUT if the vast majority of scientists tells them that MAN is the cause of global warming they go to the internet of all places — with virtually no scientific training — to prove why they have the data to tell others why the actual scientists are wrong? There are some f’ing crazy arse people on this earth! 

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1 hour ago, NevadaFan said:

People can believe anything their church tells them to believe BUT if the vast majority of scientists tells them that MAN is the cause of global warming they go to the internet of all places — with virtually no scientific training — to prove why they have the data to tell others why the actual scientists are wrong? There are some f’ing crazy arse people on this earth! 

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Show me the evidence that the vast majority of scientists believe "man caused global warming", has been proven.  They keep trotting out that old article where they sent a poll to a whole bunch of scientists got their views, then sent another poll to the scientists that marked what they wanted on the first poll, and then said it was 99% ,

Another words the vast majority of scientists who believe in man cause global warming, not including the ones who don't.  HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

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17 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

Show me the evidence that the vast majority of scientists believe "man caused global warming", has been proven.  They keep trotting out that old article where they sent a poll to a whole bunch of scientists got their views, then sent another poll to the scientists that marked what they wanted on the first poll, and then said it was 99% ,

Another words the vast majority of scientists who believe in man cause global warming, not including the ones who don't.  HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Is NASA credible?

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

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Talk about Old Ice...you should meet my Mother in Law. :rimshot1:

 

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