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46 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Conservatives are ways on the offensive, because all of the Leftist ideas have proven an epic failure for the past 150 years.

History is a bitch, and it is no friend for Leftists.

Yeah free trade, anti monopolism, equal rights, democracy, clean water/air acts, and women's suffrage have been awful

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5 minutes ago, mugtang said:

Calm down. And no, not all leftist ideas have proven to be a failure over the last 150 years.  Women’s suffrage, civil rights movement (remember that southern democrats switched after this passed driving the GOP further to the right), Unions in the early 20th century which fought for a 40 hour work week, weekends and to end child labor.  Those aren’t bad things.   

It's like we need both new ideas and suspicion of new ideas as a country to progress, weird

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Man, did people here really go to university?  Leftist and rechtie groups are always overwhelmingly populated by the young.  Antifa seems to be swollen with young idealists who don't know their ass from a hole in the wall.  Same with Proud Boys, and other rechtie groups.  It's the nature of youth. 

What a bunch of old farts this board is.

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33 minutes ago, mugtang said:

Calm down. And no, not all leftist ideas have proven to be a failure over the last 150 years.  Women’s suffrage, civil rights movement (remember that southern democrats switched after this passed driving the GOP further to the right), Unions in the early 20th century which fought for a 40 hour work week, weekends and to end child labor.  Those aren’t bad things.   

Your recollection of History is way off.

The GOP got the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed, most Democrats opposed it.

Also, the South didn't go mostly GOP until 1980 or later, not in the 60s. History shows there was never such a thing as the "Southern Strategy", that's pure revisionism.

Womens' suffrage wasn't  exactly a "Leftist" movement, either.

Enough about history.

Seriously, the vast majority of the Left's agenda is best seen in the USSR or Venezuela.

Mexico is next.

 

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10 minutes ago, Boise fan said:

Man, did people here really go to university?  Leftist and rechtie groups are always overwhelmingly populated by the young.  Antifa seems to be swollen with young idealists who don't know their ass from a hole in the wall.  Same with Proud Boys, and other rechtie groups.  It's the nature of youth. 

What a bunch of old farts this board is.

Yeah... it's like message board demographics reflect sports fans demographics

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1 minute ago, Thomas said:

Your recollection of History is way off.

The GOP got the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed, most Democrats opposed it.

The Republicans were the leftists, how do you not know this?

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

Also, the South didn't go mostly GOP until 1980 or later, not in the 60s. History shows there was never such a thing as the "Southern Strategy", that's pure revisionism.

It was literally taken from republican leader comments dude

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

Womens' suffrage wasn't  exactly a "Leftist" movement, either.

Yes, it was. Again,  Republicans started as radical leftists.

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

Enough about history.

Seriously, the vast majority of the Left's agenda is best seen in the USSR or Venezuela.

What parallels do you see, point by point? I'd like to see 80% of the dnc party plank compared.

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

Mexico is next.

How do you figure? 

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44 minutes ago, mugtang said:

YRF gets it.  It works in places like the Scandinavian Countries because they’re small populations with shared history and ancestry.  It’s easy to get behind supporting “your tribe”. 

Totally agree.

I hate to pick on Bernie Sanders, but Vermont also fits this model, limited population, no immigration for 150 years, homogeneous racial and cultural enclave, for the most part. (High avg income, whiter than the Dakotas, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming & even Alaska.)

Getting socialist policies to "work" there is nothing, compared to trying to do it in large &/or diverse States, much less nationwide. Sanders is beyond naive tin thinking that his "ideas" would work, or even make a shred of sense nationwide. 

 

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1 hour ago, Thomas said:

Conservatives are ways on the offensive, because all of the Leftist ideas have proven an epic failure for the past 150 years.

History is a bitch, and it is no friend for Leftists.

Thomas, I can tell by this and your many other posts that you are a proud American, and also a history scholar. I know it must trouble you greatly to have witnessed the continual change since the founding of our great nation. I know that you and many others have been very uncomfortable with the direction our leaders have taken us and are now greatly enjoying the current respite. I caution you not to get too far over the tips of your skis, (thought a little skiing metaphor was appropriate) because as you are well aware, change is constant. Be pragmatic my friend, joy is fleeting and so is this pause in the liberal movement of our society.

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4 hours ago, youngrebelfan40 said:

Stalin wasn’t really motivated by ethnic hatred as much as Adolf (although it’s debateable whether or not he didn’t like Jews, this did not drive his policy)

He just was a paranoid psychopathic lunatic who had zero regard for human life in the pursuit of absolute power, and somewhat incidentally, ideological goals

I wonder if he's a distant relative of the Clinton crime family.

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2 hours ago, Thomas said:

Socialism is always so cool in theory, like when you're a young, dumb student w/o a real job and not paying taxes.

It's not cool at all when you're in the real world, and you're working & getting raped to pay for free shit for the lazy & apathetic in society.

It also never works out, and generally a lot of people either starve or die at the hands of military goon squads.

Stupid Leftist Students.

 

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The "stupid leftist students" learn that shit from stupid, leftists professors, many of whom are just guys who went to school and never left. Losers with a PhD.

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1 hour ago, Boise fan said:

Man, did people here really go to university?  Leftist and rechtie groups are always overwhelmingly populated by the young.  Antifa seems to be swollen with young idealists who don't know their ass from a hole in the wall.  Same with Proud Boys, and other rechtie groups.  It's the nature of youth. 

What a bunch of old farts this board is.

This.  I have a bunch of friends who constantly post communist memes and a bunch who share Milo.  Sigh.

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Just now, halfmanhalfbronco said:

This.  I have a bunch of friends who constantly post communist memes and a bunch who share Milo.  Sigh.

Look on the bright side. You're a good soul, because if your diverse friend follows.

 

PS I thought that Milo guy disappeared. You mean he's still a thing?

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Just now, Thomas said:

Look on the bright side. You're a good soul, because if your diverse friend follows.

 

PS I thought that Milo guy disappeared. You mean he's still a thing?

More popular than ever.  He got his book deal canceled for making light of priesthood rape of young boys.  Only to make 3X more than his huge contract by publishing it independently.  I used to kind of like him and thought him funny, but then he just became too repetitive and after the above aggression I pretty much gave up on him being anything other than whoring shock jock.

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12 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said:

More popular than ever.  He got his book deal canceled for making light of priesthood rape of young boys.  Only to make 3X more than his huge contract by publishing it independently.  I used to kind of like him and thought him funny, but then he just became too repetitive and after the above aggression I pretty much gave up on him being anything other than whoring shock jock.

Agree.

His :Dangerous Faggot" tour of universities was epic tho.

The level of meltdown so many students and professors have, over the tiny thing of someone with a different opinion speaking, was a clear sign that free speech in America is doomed, if those freaks ever gain control of the government.

Normal reaction: "I disagree with that. I'm going to ignore it."

 

 

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4 hours ago, youngrebelfan40 said:

Communism is awful, it just doesn't work 

Democratic socialism on the other hand, does tend to work in some places. Although I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work here very well. We're way too diverse for folks to swallow sharing resources and wealth with each other

Democratic socialism just takes longer to fail.  It hasn't worked anywhere and the Norway's of the world you use to claim it does are all struggling to maintain it.   

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Communism is the best system in the world, so long as that system is extremely small and reasonable self interest is not the paramount object driving it. The nuclear family is the ideal example. I don’t expect my children to pull their own weight, nor would it be rational to do so. Genuine love and a desire to see the best for all within this tiny system is the driving objective. Anything bigger than that, and humans are incapable of buying in without unbearably violent tyranny to enforce it.

We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch.

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6 hours ago, Thomas said:

Conservatives are ways on the offensive, because all of the Leftist ideas have proven an epic failure for the past 150 years.

History is a bitch, and it is no friend for Leftists.

The extreme leftists and the extreme rightists have always combated each other.  Both dislike the rule of law and distrust government.  Just like your pal.       

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Democratic Socialism may work very well for a handful of small homogeneous countries in Europe (let’s just conveniently ignore the other 40 or so where it doesn’t work as well) but it won’t work for a large diverse country like the US that’s $21T in debt.  

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13 hours ago, Thomas said:

Your recollection of History is way off.

The GOP got the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed, most Democrats opposed it.

Also, the South didn't go mostly GOP until 1980 or later, not in the 60s. History shows there was never such a thing as the "Southern Strategy", that's pure revisionism.

Womens' suffrage wasn't  exactly a "Leftist" movement, either.

Enough about history.

Seriously, the vast majority of the Left's agenda is best seen in the USSR or Venezuela.

Mexico is next.

 

It must be challenging, going through life with such narrow blinders on.  I guess that's why you allow others to lead you so much?

You should try thinking for yourself sometime. It's positively liberating!

 

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20 hours ago, youngrebelfan40 said:

Stalin wasn’t really motivated by ethnic hatred as much as Adolf (although it’s debateable whether or not he didn’t like Jews, this did not drive his policy)

He just was a paranoid psychopathic lunatic who had zero regard for human life in the pursuit of absolute power, and somewhat incidentally, ideological goals

Well youngreb,  look at who or President is complimentimg and who's he attacking.

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