pokerider Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I don't know how any Democrat, Republican, Independent, Libertarian or anyone who doesn't even vote could support this bill. How is this any different than 3rd world countries who bribe gov't officials to get what they want? This shows how dysfunctional and corrupt the US Congress is. You vote for my stuff and I'll vote for your stuff and we'll just borrow more money. These guys don't even pretend to try anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycamper Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, pokerider said: You vote for my stuff and I'll vote for your stuff I mean, that's how congress was designed to work and that's how it did work when we considered it to "work" pretty well. Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokebball Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, happycamper said: I mean, that's how congress was designed to work and that's how it did work when we considered it to "work" pretty well. He's got a point though with the phrase "and we'll just borrow more money". That's got out of hand. The World Needs More Cowboys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 26 minutes ago, pokebball said: He's got a point though with the phrase "and we'll just borrow more money". That's got out of hand. Yes, but I bet he supports the unnecessary tax cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokebball Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, renoskier said: Yes, but I bet he supports the unnecessary tax cuts. I don't know what he thinks. But his comment is valid with that phrase, in my opinion The World Needs More Cowboys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 hour ago, renoskier said: Yes, but I bet he supports the unnecessary tax cuts. Not sure they were unnecessary. Capital investments by companies such as Apple were severely lacking. Less so now. Small businesses are now doing better in general. Just leave it at that though and the narrative would have been spun as this being a trickle down policy and corporate welfare, which would have of course been idiotic. Edit: I guess dems are still selling it as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Not sure they were unnecessary. Capital investments by companies such as Apple were severely lacking. Less so now. Small businesses are now doing better in general. Just leave it at that though and the narrative would have been spun as this being a trickle down policy and corporate welfare, which would have of course been idiotic. Edit: I guess dems are still selling it as that. The corporate one's were good and necessary. The personal cuts, nice but not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 hour ago, renoskier said: The corporate one's were good and necessary. The personal cuts, nice but not necessary. Agreed 100%. However without those personal cuts it would have been spun three ways till yesterday and twice tomorrow as a greedy break for those evil corporations that did nothing for the middle and lower class. Which it ironically still is being billed as by those on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerider Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 17 hours ago, renoskier said: The corporate one's were good and necessary. The personal cuts, nice but not necessary. Speak for yourself. The tax cuts were great imo. I personally would have made the Corp tax rate more like 24-25% but thats just me. However Congress doesn't have a revenue problem, doesn't matter how much they have they spend more. They have a spending problem, in every area. Yes I like having a good defense, No I don't like how much we spend (and waste) on defense. And everything else. Everything should be cut until we're at least in current balance, then look to pay down the deficit slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...