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Trump's Approval Ratings by State

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2 hours ago, renoskier said:

We've had 3 straight GOP governors and 2 very moderate Dems, Miller and Bryan, before them. We've had a mix of GOP and Dem Congressmen and Senators. And although Harry Reid drove many on the right crazy as senate majority leader, he served for 30 years because he was a moderate and was often supported by the mining and ranching interest in Nevada; not exactly a left wing constituency.

I can't off hand think of a single far-left politician in Nevada to win a statewide election. Can you?

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4 minutes ago, NVGiant said:

I can't off hand think of a single far-left politician in Nevada to win a statewide election. Can you?

No. Maybe there's a few southern Dems in Carson City who are "far-left", I don't really know, but any Dem sent to Washington from Nevada is going to be pretty middle of the road.

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18 hours ago, Nevada Convert said:

Yes, a lot of BIG cities have trouble going red. Vegas is a unique city, though, and it's not built like your typical 2 million metropolis. If you took out the Clark County union vote, CC would go red, maybe not by a ton. But it would easily make NV a red state losing it's battle ground reputation of late. 

Speaking of Nevada politics and a bit OT, sometime I need to tell an old story from back in 1996 when I was going to school at UNLV and driving at night for Haycock Petroleum on Bonanza off the D street exit. The Haycock's are very close friends with Harry Reid and his family. Claire Haycock and Harry Reid became pals as they were on the Nevada Gaming Commission together from I believe sometime in the 60's up to around 1979-80.

Harry then went to work for Haycock as a VP in the early 80's and also did a bit of private practice law. But it's funny how it's been omitted from his resume. He had to hide it or he'd have never been elected, especially as a Dem. Total, total scandal that could've easily led to prison time. You wouldn't believe what it was. I'll spill the beans when I tell the whole story.

So when I left, I blew the whistle on what Haycock was doing at that time all the way back to Reid's tenure, and the evidence couldn't be refuted. I even had a well known RJ reporter working with me to do a huge story on it. An election was a couple weeks away where Reid and John Ensign were in a very close race. I decided to talk to Ensign's campaign manager, Mike Slanker, about it. Even with the evidence, because it was such a big bombshell and being so close to the election, he wanted more time to vet everything carefully. He went back and forth and then decided not to go with it. Ensign lost by 400 votes!!!!!!  Reid was picking up and bussing Indians off the reservation and took them to vote. 

But Slanker did the classy thing even though had he even just mentioned it, it would've easily made up 400 votes. He just hated last second election surprises, especially bogus ones. And then I'll explain what happened to me when Haycock, etc. found out I was blowing the whistle. I've only told about a third of it. I still have that evidence, and maybe I'll post it here. Nah, that wouldn't be good for Mug. 

 

Nevada as a whole went for Clinton by 27,000 votes. I'm not sure you can say that there were 27,000 votes that were unduly influenced by union membership.

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7 minutes ago, happycamper said:

Nevada as a whole went for Clinton by 27,000 votes. I'm not sure you can say that there were 27,000 votes that were unduly influenced by union membership.

Yes, and I believe Washoe county, not heavily unionized, also went for Clinton.

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11 minutes ago, Jackrabbit said:

1st  the polls have never been accurate on Trump.   2nd,  it is the attitude of the majority of urbanites that got him elected....see OP.

What are you talking about? The polls have been accurate, the pollsters analysis was inaccurate (and there were giant holes in states everyone filed away as sure democrat).

Why do I have to explain this every 2 months?

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3 hours ago, happycamper said:

Nevada as a whole went for Clinton by 27,000 votes. I'm not sure you can say that there were 27,000 votes that were unduly influenced by union membership.

Most certainly there were 27,000 Union votes for Clinton.   When you count family members there are probably 80K union votes of which at least 75% are voting democrat.

https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21726106-why-does-right-work-state-have-such-politically-active-unions-nevadas-unusual

There too, most students pay nothing for their classes. The roughly 57,000 members of the Culinary Workers Union Local 226 (CWU)—the state’s biggest union, representing employees at most of the casinos on the Vegas Strip and downtown

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9 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

Most certainly there were 27,000 Union votes for Clinton.   When you count family members there are probably 80K union votes of which at least 75% are voting democrat.

https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21726106-why-does-right-work-state-have-such-politically-active-unions-nevadas-unusual

There too, most students pay nothing for their classes. The roughly 57,000 members of the Culinary Workers Union Local 226 (CWU)—the state’s biggest union, representing employees at most of the casinos on the Vegas Strip and downtown

Okay, so if there are 80k union votes you think that there would be 27,000 people who would switch? That is not in line with the votes across Clark County. 

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16 minutes ago, happycamper said:

What are you talking about? The polls have been accurate, the pollsters analysis was inaccurate (and there were giant holes in states everyone filed away as sure democrat).

Why do I have to explain this every 2 months?

This.  The polls were within the margin for error.  Polling, the way it is done today by gallup, Monmouth U. Rassmusen etc... is still a highly scientific way of collecting data.

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4 hours ago, happycamper said:

Nevada as a whole went for Clinton by 27,000 votes. I'm not sure you can say that there were 27,000 votes that were unduly influenced by union membership.

You could very easily account for 27,000 union influenced votes just in Clark County. 15% of Nevada's workforce is tied to unions. 27k is a little pimple. 

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22 minutes ago, happycamper said:

Okay, so if there are 80k union votes you think that there would be 27,000 people who would switch? That is not in line with the votes across Clark County. 

Most of them wouldn't vote without the massive Union voter drives in Vegas.  It wasn't that they switched although the Union would do their best to get them to vote their way.  It is that all of them vote which wouldn't happen if they weren't union members with union sponsored voting booths in every casino along the strip.

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3 minutes ago, bluerules009 said:

Most of them wouldn't vote without the massive Union voter drives in Vegas.  It wasn't that they switched although the Union would do their best to get them to vote their way.  It is that all of them vote which wouldn't happen if they weren't union members with union sponsored voting booths in every casino along the strip.

Clark County had something like 70% voter turnout, you really think that 1/3 the union votes were from a voting drive?

7 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

You could very easily account for 27,000 union influenced votes just in Clark County. 15% of Nevada's workforce is tied to unions. 27k is a little pimple. 

27,000 votes is over 1/3 the union number put up by Blues. It's a seismic shift in voting

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7 minutes ago, happycamper said:

Clark County had something like 70% voter turnout, you really think that 1/3 the union votes were from a voting drive?

27,000 votes is over 1/3 the union number put up by Blues. It's a seismic shift in voting

There are nearly 200,000 workers tied to unions in Nevada right now. But Union membership is down to 1989 levels right now. But just 10 years ago that number was 416,000.

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Just now, Nevada Convert said:

There are nearly 200k workers tied to unions in Nevada. 

So you're still claiming roughly 15% of the union workforce voted for Hllary because of unions? Roughly 30% of the registered voters?

That is an out there claim. Not "the wall will only cost 2 billion dollars" out there, but still, out there. 

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13 minutes ago, happycamper said:

So you're still claiming roughly 15% of the union workforce voted for Hllary because of unions? Roughly 30% of the registered voters?

That is an out there claim. Not "the wall will only cost 2 billion dollars" out there, but still, out there. 

You're really really really good at putting words in my mouth and then tripping on them all over the place. Quite entertaining to watch. ? You're much better at that than you are an engineer that thinks he can design a unique cost effective border wall. That's for damn sure. I didn't say 2 billion and certainly not for the current scope. It doesn't matter because your bid would be double what the winning bid would be. Just stick to strip malls and cookie cutter challenges like that. 

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50 minutes ago, happycamper said:

Clark County had something like 70% voter turnout, you really think that 1/3 the union votes were from a voting drive?

27,000 votes is over 1/3 the union number put up by Blues. It's a seismic shift in voting

You have no idea, I think I am underestimating the number by thousands.

The reason Clark county has that high voter turnout number is because of Union organization.

You don't seem to understand how powerful union organized voter turnout drives are.

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17 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

You have no idea, I think I am underestimating the number by thousands.

The reason Clark county has that high voter turnout number is because of Union organization.

You don't seem to understand how powerful union organized voter turnout drives are.

I live in Wyoming, we get paid well without unions :shrug:

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18 hours ago, Nevada Convert said:

You're really really really good at putting words in my mouth and then tripping on them all over the place. Quite entertaining to watch. ? You're much better at that than you are an engineer that thinks he can design a unique cost effective border wall. That's for damn sure. I didn't say 2 billion and certainly not for the current scope. It doesn't matter because your bid would be double what the winning bid would be. Just stick to strip malls and cookie cutter challenges like that. 

https://www.mwcboard.com/index.php?/topic/64372-how-stupid-is-trumps-wall-idea-a-breakdown-of-it-here/&page=2

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