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Final Nod to the Josh Allen Hype Train

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On 4/1/2018 at 10:50 PM, LaradiseCowboy said:

I can’t believe Lamar Jackson scored a 13....that is embarrassing. Apparently he also doesn’t have an agent and his mom is his manager (he also opted out of the 40 yard dash).

Who is advising this kid at his university???

It is interesting to me. I mean, Rookie salaries are set based on Draft order/Position right? So I guess I can see where somebody says "Why should I give an Agent 30% of my $$ (or whatever it is) if he can't do anything about the contract. At the same time, it sounds like GM's are trying to coordinate things with her and she is clueless or just not available, so she may be costing him (or more accurately he is costing himself) a lot of money if teams just won't draft a guy because they found him to be not engaged. 

I guess we will see where he ends up getting picked. 

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11 hours ago, RogueStout said:

It is interesting to me. I mean, Rookie salaries are set based on Draft order/Position right? So I guess I can see where somebody says "Why should I give an Agent 30% of my $$ (or whatever it is) if he can't do anything about the contract. At the same time, it sounds like GM's are trying to coordinate things with her and she is clueless or just not available, so she may be costing him (or more accurately he is costing himself) a lot of money if teams just won't draft a guy because they found him to be not engaged. 

I guess we will see where he ends up getting picked. 

I think it’s more a detriment than anything else. Who wants to draft someone that can’t even be reached for pre-draft workouts??

Jackson is on the short list for NFL Draft attendees in Dallas, so I’m assuming he will be picked up in the first round. In terms of raising their draft stocks post-season I’d give JA an A+ (all homerism aside) and Jackson a D-.

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11 hours ago, RogueStout said:

It is interesting to me. I mean, Rookie salaries are set based on Draft order/Position right? So I guess I can see where somebody says "Why should I give an Agent 30% of my $$ (or whatever it is) if he can't do anything about the contract. At the same time, it sounds like GM's are trying to coordinate things with her and she is clueless or just not available, so she may be costing him (or more accurately he is costing himself) a lot of money if teams just won't draft a guy because they found him to be not engaged. 

I guess we will see where he ends up getting picked. 

You're way off on that number. I'm pretty sure it's more like 3%. And I would imagine even though the salary might be set, the terms aren't. Also, doesn't include possible endorsement deals. A player would have to be a complete idiot to try and do that on his own to try and save a measly 3%. 

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Mel Kiper's 2018 'Grade: A' three-round mock draft

The ground rules:

  1. At each slot, I make a pick in the best interest of only the team with the pick

  2. No trades. I try to address team needs, but as with the actual draft, value can supersede need.

  3. I'm not projecting picks. This is more of a look at where I see value up and down the board, based on my rankings.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/insider/story/_/id/23096726/grade-2018-nfl-mock-draft-all-32-teams-mel-kiper-plays-gm-three-rounds-first-100-picks

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12 hours ago, kingpotato said:

You're way off on that number. I'm pretty sure it's more like 3%. And I would imagine even though the salary might be set, the terms aren't. Also, doesn't include possible endorsement deals. A player would have to be a complete idiot to try and do that on his own to try and save a measly 3%. 

Looked into it a little and it sounds like you're right. I was just figuring that most of these guys are Lawyer types (at least they used to be) and those guys usually take about a third as their cut.  

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So right now still with 2 weeks to go, I don't think Allen is in the top 4 picks.  I suspect Cleveland takes Darnold at #1, Giants take Rosen #2 and Jets go for Mayfield at #3.  I haven't seen anything that says Jets are interested in Josh Allen.  Then Cleveland probably will take Barkley or Chubb at #4.  I just don't think Broncos will take a QB in the first round after the Paxton Lynch pick and they will take Chubb if they can get him.   The next several teams - Indy, Tampa, Chicago, SF, Oakland and Miami aren't likely to take a QB in first round either.  Allen could end up to Buffalo at #12 or Arizona at #15.  Or some team could trade with one of these to move up and get Allen as well.  But right now I don't see him as a top 4 pick. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, pokerider said:

So right now still with 2 weeks to go, I don't think Allen is in the top 4 picks.  I suspect Cleveland takes Darnold at #1, Giants take Rosen #2 and Jets go for Mayfield at #3.  I haven't seen anything that says Jets are interested in Josh Allen.  Then Cleveland probably will take Barkley or Chubb at #4.  I just don't think Broncos will take a QB in the first round after the Paxton Lynch pick and they will take Chubb if they can get him.   The next several teams - Indy, Tampa, Chicago, SF, Oakland and Miami aren't likely to take a QB in first round either.  Allen could end up to Buffalo at #12 or Arizona at #15.  Or some team could trade with one of these to move up and get Allen as well.  But right now I don't see him as a top 4 pick. 

 

 

If I'm a Wyo fan, I'd want NYG to take Allen. Good franchise with a year or two to learn. Good skill positions around him to help. 

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2 hours ago, pokerider said:

So right now still with 2 weeks to go, I don't think Allen is in the top 4 picks.  I suspect Cleveland takes Darnold at #1, Giants take Rosen #2 and Jets go for Mayfield at #3.  I haven't seen anything that says Jets are interested in Josh Allen.  Then Cleveland probably will take Barkley or Chubb at #4.  I just don't think Broncos will take a QB in the first round after the Paxton Lynch pick and they will take Chubb if they can get him.   The next several teams - Indy, Tampa, Chicago, SF, Oakland and Miami aren't likely to take a QB in first round either.  Allen could end up to Buffalo at #12 or Arizona at #15.  Or some team could trade with one of these to move up and get Allen as well.  But right now I don't see him as a top 4 pick. 

 

 

Allen continues to be flown between NY, Cleveland and Denver for workouts.  Nobody's made up their mind yet.

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1 hour ago, madmartigan said:

If I'm a Wyo fan, I'd want NYG to take Allen. Good franchise with a year or two to learn. Good skill positions around him to help. 

Schurmur is a good QB coach too.

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“You’re combining Aaron Rodgers with a much stronger arm.”

”The energy his body produces - feels like Favre, feels like Elway.”

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Mel Kiper also promised that if Jimmy Clausen wasn’t a star in this league he’d retire. 

 

Josh Allen is Brock Osweiler with mobility. 

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Did Browns GM Reveal Team’s Plan For No. 1 Pick In 2018 NFL Draft?

“You all laugh at me when I say it, but I think hand size is important,” Dorsey said Thursday, per Cleveland.com’s Mary Kay Cabot. “With that being said, hand size in November and December, when it’s snowing, raining, it’s getting muddy. We all know the elements in Cleveland are going to play a role.”

If you choose to read into Dorsey’s note about hand size, Josh Allen topped the charts at February’s Scouting Combine. As Cabot pointed out, the Wyoming product was the only quarterback prospect in this year’s class to measure at 10-plus inch hands.

https://nesn.com/2018/04/did-browns-gm-reveal-teams-plan-for-no-1-pick-in-2018-nfl-draft/amp/

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“I mean, Josh Allen could not even beat Eastern Michigan! That’s the worst, it’s the worst of all the Michigan directional schools!”

”He’s got a rocket arm, he’s got a ROCKET arm, but it looks like it was designed by the North Koreans.”

:lol::lol:

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A nice hour and 45 minutes.  QBs begin at about the hour mark.  YBF, if I were you I wouldn't bother :) 

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