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13 hours ago, bluerules009 said:

That doesn't help of course but the banking regulations that used to allow banks freedom to make loans outside of specific criteria were determined to be racist.  So now a the major banks like Wells Fargo can't make a loan to someone because a local loan officer thinks its is a good deal.   They only hand out loans that fit specific criteria.   What they have turned to to make the money is charging fees.  They do everything they can to set up accounts in ways that lead to their customers incurring a fee.   If you want a loan for a business it is almost impossible to get without a SBA guarantee.   

Any other loans you will get will require a specific credit score, down payment, income number ect.,..   Nothing is going to happen outside the box.

Wells Fargo makes money by setting up fraudulent accounts in their customers names and stealing from them.

Thanks Obama!

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11 hours ago, Akkula said:

Thanks Mike Lee, Lindsay Graham, Jeff Flake, and Rand Paul for showing this is squarely a Trump shutdown.  Now it is time for Mr. Deal maker to get something done.   That partisan piece of trash you tried to force down the senators throat won't cut it.   Can you believe McConnell didn't even meet with Democrats to hammer out a deal?  Time to govern!

That 'partisan piece of trash' bill that funded the government and CHIP for 6 years with no provisions the dems disagreed with. Only a +++++ing idiot like you calls that partisan. 

I have a special needs kid and CHIP funds part of a program we use for him. This is no game for many people. And dumb +++++s like you and the politicians who want to play Russian roulette with peoples paychecks and medical care for political gain FOR ILLEGALS over US citizens won't be forgotten any time soon. 

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3 hours ago, mysfit said:

These so called illegals had permission under DACA.

 

These so called illegals were brought here by their parents as CHILDREN. They have known no other home. They have done nothing wrong or illegal. For people who are against abortion you're downright heartless and immoral to use children as bargaining chips for what they had no control over. Just like the CHIPS program which the GOP repeatedly refused to take up for over 6 months. 

 

The GOP refuses to involve the dems in any of the bills and that has to stop. Both DACA and CHIPs are 2 programs that have bipartisan support. The dems have had enough of the lies and broken promises. The GOP needs dem support, adding DACA and CHIP is a small price to pay. Time to end 1 party rule and get back to behaving like adults where both sides have a voice rather than one side dictating to the other.

if you want to play the blame game over DACA why didn't the dems pass comprehensive immigration LIKE OBAMA PROMISED when they had complete control of the government? 3 times this was taken up and three times dems spiked it. The need the issue to run on, they don't need a solution. 

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12 minutes ago, Rebelbacker said:

That 'partisan piece of trash' bill that funded the government and CHIP for 6 years with no provisions the dems disagreed with. Only a +++++ing idiot like you calls that partisan. 

I have a special needs kid and CHIP funds part of a program we use for him. This is no game for many people. And dumb +++++s like you and the politicians who want to play Russian roulette with peoples paychecks and medical care for political gain FOR ILLEGALS over US citizens won't be forgotten any time soon. 

Maybe you should consider looking at the republicans who refused to extend CHIP six months ago.

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6 minutes ago, jackmormon said:

Maybe you should consider looking at the republicans who refused to extend CHIP six months ago.

Or maybe you should? Considering the House passed a bill in November and the dems spiked it in the senate. http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/358622-house-passes-bill-to-fund-childrens-insurance-program

Then before Christmas congress passed a bill to fund it through March. 

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23 minutes ago, Rebelbacker said:

Or maybe you should? Considering the House passed a bill in November and the dems spiked it in the senate. http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/358622-house-passes-bill-to-fund-childrens-insurance-program

Then before Christmas congress passed a bill to fund it through March. 

The problem is that they refuse to pass a clean bill. The bill required essentially killing the ACA. They couldn’t get the votes to kill Obamacare within their own party, so they tried to hold CHIP hostage to get democrats to kill it.

Senate dems couldn’t kill it. Republicans didn’t bring it up for a vote.

you seem to forget, the GOP holds both houses,

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38 minutes ago, jackmormon said:

Trump promised that no taxpayer money would be used to pay for his wall.

Takes less time to charter the DACA folks back in '18 then tear down the trump wall.    I don't think it's necessary to intervene in a crisis the Donald created for himself so he could get Americans to build his wall.  

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6 minutes ago, jackmormon said:

The problem is that they refuse to pass a clean bill. The bill required essentially killing the ACA. They couldn’t get the votes to kill Obamacare within their own party, so they tried to hold CHIP hostage to get democrats to kill it.

Senate dems couldn’t kill it. Republicans didn’t bring it up for a vote.

you seem to forget, the GOP holds both houses,

You have no idea what you are talking about as usual. The House bill would charge higher premiums to wealthier Medicare beneficiaries, cut money from ObamaCare’s public health fund and shorten the grace period for ObamaCare enrollees who fail to make premium payments. That isn't 'killing the ACA'. Funds are regularly offset from other programs just like this bill wanted to do. 

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28 minutes ago, Rebelbacker said:

You have no idea what you are talking about as usual. The House bill would charge higher premiums to wealthier Medicare beneficiaries, cut money from ObamaCare’s public health fund and shorten the grace period for ObamaCare enrollees who fail to make premium payments. That isn't 'killing the ACA'. Funds are regularly offset from other programs just like this bill wanted to do. 

Senate proposal wasn’t the same as the house bill.

Did you forget republicans control both houses?

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17 minutes ago, jackmormon said:

Senate proposal wasn’t the same as the house bill.

Did you forget republicans control both houses?

The senate finance committee passed their own version but the funds needed to off set it weren't agreed to by the dems. 

You keep bringing up the GOP controls both houses but doesn't mean every bill in the senate can go through with a simple majority. 

 

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