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1 minute ago, modestobulldog said:

Not sure if he in fact said it.  It was a private meeting.  What is wrong with brutal honesty?  You called the WAC a shithole as the Donks left.

Not really. It was a bipartisan meeting of our representatives doing our business and should not be "private".

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2 minutes ago, renoskier said:

Not really. It was a bipartisan meeting of our representatives doing our business and should not be "private".

That is stupid, under that logic there should be no doors or offices in Washington DC.

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Just now, modestobulldog said:

That is stupid, under that logic there should be no doors or offices in Washington DC.

No it isn't, that's why we have very strong open meeting laws. If something classified is being discussed, different rules apply. Obviously, that wasn't the case with this meeting.

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45 minutes ago, modestobulldog said:

Not sure if he in fact said it.  It was a private meeting.  What is wrong with brutal honesty?  You called the WAC a shithole as the Donks left.

Just because another country is a shithole doesn’t mean that reflects at all on a person living there who wishes to immigrate to America. Nor is someone from a Nordic country automatically more desirable because their countries are far less corrupt and dangerous than African nations. That’s not honest, that’s ignorant.

We’re all sitting in the dugout. Thinking we should pitch. How you gonna throw a shutout when all you do is bitch.

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Relative corruption had nothing to do with prez shitholes preference for Norwegians from a socialist country over Haitians or immigrants from African countries.

 

It is about white vs non white. It's about blatant racism and the disturbing fact that 1 in 4 Americans are racist as well. A d the GOP leadership continues to support these policies and this piece of trash occupying the WH.

 

I have never been more been more disillusioned about this country and how far it's drifted from the moral center I used to believe it occupied. Nor more disgusted by what 'real' Americans really represent.

 

Bring on the shutdown and let's all enjoy the prez this country has shown it deserves.

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1 hour ago, thelawlorfaithful said:

Just because another country is a shithole doesn’t mean that reflects at all on a person living there who wishes to immigrate to America. Nor is someone from a Nordic country automatically more desirable because their countries are far less corrupt and dangerous than African nations. That’s not honest, that’s ignorant.

Yeah, it isn't that he said there were shithole countries.  It was that he said he doesn't want PEOPLE from shithole countries (like all countries in Africa, Haiti, ...insert country that has black or brown people) but wants PEOPLE from Norway.  

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Trump should know better than that (or maybe not), and even though what he said was true, the position of President requires a certain level of candor that won't undermine relationships and diplomacy. 

Having said that, the media is making waaaaaaaaay too big of a deal over this like they often do with Trump mistakes. The anti-Trump media will just never learn that they do Trump a big favor by going so overboard that it creates a backlash where people start to sympathize and rationalize that what he said wasn't a big deal. 

Yes, we have a president that has a habit of showing off his poor presidential bedside manner, and yes it can be embarrassing. But just as embarrassing are the people on the left to far left that crumble into sand whenever they think someone may have called them a name, or called someone they like a name. We are in an era of big pvssies, I'm afraid, and it does nothing but help their enemy #1, President Trump.

You'd think the left would try a new strategy because it's been a year and nothing sticks to this guy. The left has gotten really good at 'pulling a Maddow' on a fairly regular basis. We see it all the time in OT here. "This is it!!!!! We got'm now, and he's going down!!!" It's a fvcking false alarm factory around here sometimes. 

If I were the Dems, I'd start all over and do it with the basics. Start with the Dems of the future, the little kids. In every liberal school district, as 1st period is beginning and after the moment of silence for atheists, they need to require that the kids recite the 'Sticks and Stones' children's rhyme 3 whole times. You HAVE to start over and teach your people on the left that someone's words shouldn't hurt you, and to be strong and independent of naysayers.

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15 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

 

You'd think the left would try a new strategy because it's been a year and nothing sticks to this guy. The left has gotten really good at 'pulling a Maddow' on a fairly regular basis. We see it all the time in OT here. "This is it!!!!! We got'm now, and he's going down!!!" It's a fvcking false alarm factory around here sometimes. 

If I were the Dems, I'd start all over and do it with the basics. Start with the Dems of the future, the little kids. In every liberal school district, as 1st period is beginning and after the moment of silence for atheists, they need to require that the kids recite the 'Sticks and Stones' children's rhyme 3 whole times. You HAVE to start over and teach your people on the left that someone's words shouldn't hurt you, and to be strong and independent of naysayers.

 

He has a 39% approval rating. Just because the shit he pulls won't lead to impeachment, it doesn't mean it's not somewhat sticking 

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16 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

Trump should know better than that (or maybe not), and even though what he said was true, the position of President requires a certain level of candor that won't undermine relationships and diplomacy. 

Having said that, the media is making waaaaaaaaay too big of a deal over this like they often do with Trump mistakes. The anti-Trump media will just never learn that they do Trump a big favor by going so overboard that it creates a backlash where people start to sympathize and rationalize that what he said wasn't a big deal. 

Yes, we have a president that has a habit of showing off his poor presidential bedside manner, and yes it can be embarrassing. But just as embarrassing are the people on the left to far left that crumble into sand whenever they think someone may have called them a name, or called someone they like a name. We are in an era of big pvssies, I'm afraid, and it does nothing but help their enemy #1, President Trump.

You'd think the left would try a new strategy because it's been a year and nothing sticks to this guy. The left has gotten really good at 'pulling a Maddow' on a fairly regular basis. We see it all the time in OT here. "This is it!!!!! We got'm now, and he's going down!!!" It's a fvcking false alarm factory around here sometimes. 

If I were the Dems, I'd start all over and do it with the basics. Start with the Dems of the future, the little kids. In every liberal school district, as 1st period is beginning and after the moment of silence for atheists, they need to require that the kids recite the 'Sticks and Stones' children's rhyme 3 whole times. You HAVE to start over and teach your people on the left that someone's words shouldn't hurt you, and to be strong and independent of naysayers.

Big deal? Now Trump supporters believe they can go into other countries and arrest people. Of course the person is brown. Trump is no Hitler, but to his supporters it looks like he has given them the power to be like the SS.

Trump Supporters Attempt to 'Arrest' London Mayor

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12 minutes ago, Akkula said:

Yeah, it isn't that he said there were shithole countries.  It was that he said he doesn't want PEOPLE from shithole countries (like all countries in Africa, Haiti, ...insert country that has black or brown people) but wants PEOPLE from Norway.  

You guys on the left are just going nuts over this and it's hysterical. He didn't say anything about race, he made the point about very well developed countries such as a Norway that have lots of people that could come right into the US and be impact players vs. a 3rd world country that wouldn't have as many people educated enough to be a net positive.

The left seems to think the purpose of immigration is to save the poor of the world. Go read Ted Kennedy's statement on immigration a few decades or so ago. He actually had it right. The biggest part of immigration is to bring in people from all over the world that can have a positive affect on the US with what they can contribute. Norway came to mind because he had just met with the female leader of Norway.

If Trump were a racist, he wouldn't have minority's and women from the top down in his companies. He has minority's and women in very top level positions on down because he chooses the very best qualified to help his company's. Trump may be obnoxious and insensitive at times, but there's zero proof he's a racist. In fact, the proof shows that he's not.

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2 minutes ago, sebasour said:

 

He has a 39% approval rating. Just because the shit he pulls won't lead to impeachment, it doesn't mean it's not somewhat sticking 

If you look at any reputable polling firm, you'll see that his ratings over the last year have been very flat and consistent. In fact, the latest trend is slightly up. Gallup has had him mostly in the 35% to 40% range, and Rasmussen has had him consistently 42% to 46%. Up until now, he's been a teflon president. 

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2 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

 

If Trump were a racist, he wouldn't have minority's and women from the top down in his companies. He has minority's and women in very top level positions on down because he chooses the very best qualified to help his company's. Trump may be obnoxious and insensitive at times, but there's zero proof he's a racist. In fact, the proof shows that he's not.

Even if you give him a pass on this the guy is definitely a racist, he proposed banning an entire group from this country, he spent years pedaling the racist birther conspiracy (which arguably ignited his campaign), he's had numerous property discrimination suits levied against him (which he's settled on), he's pandered to neo nazis, and he refused to apologize for the Central Park 5 fiasco. He's also been accused of numerous racist polices at his companies, at one of his casinos in the 80's black workers were allegedly hidden in the back

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4 minutes ago, Nevada Convert said:

If you look at any reputable polling firm, you'll see that his ratings over the last year have been very flat and consistent. In fact, the latest trend is slightly up. Gallup has had him mostly in the 35% to 40% range, and Rasmussen has had him consistently 42% to 46%. Up until now, he's been a teflon president. 

35 to 40 range is shit. Obama never dropped that low, even at his worst

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10 minutes ago, Rampage said:

Big deal? Now Trump supporters believe they can go into other countries and arrest people. Of course the person is brown. Trump is no Hitler, but to his supporters it looks like he has given them the power to be like the SS.

Trump Supporters Attempt to 'Arrest' London Mayor

There are nuts that support every leader, but because you're so incredibly butt hurt over him, you're holding Trump to a different standard than other politicians you like. Even though there were huge numbers of self proclaimed "Bernie Supporters" rioting in the streets committing crimes left and right, I'll bet you didn't hold Bernie responsible for all of their mayhem, right? Can't have it both ways. 

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3 minutes ago, sebasour said:

Even if you give him a pass on this the guy is definitely a racist, he proposed banning an entire group from this country, he spent years pedaling the racist birther conspiracy (which arguably ignited his campaign), he's had numerous property discrimination suits levied against him (which he's settled on), he's pandered to neo nazis, and he refused to apologize for the Central Park 5 fiasco. He's also been accused of numerous racist polices at his companies, at one of his casinos in the 80's black workers were allegedly hidden in the back

All of the things you mention have to do with human behavior, and nothing to do with skin color and race. Zero, nada.

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