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The AAC has officially left us in the dust

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12 minutes ago, utgrizfan said:

If the AAC was smart they would get Army to join, 4th is latest Army Navy Game was amazing!

They don't get the $ from the army/navy game.  Navy was able to keep its existing contract when it joined the AAC and doesn't have to share.  

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12 hours ago, edluvar said:

They don't get the $ from the army/navy game.  Navy was able to keep its existing contract when it joined the AAC and doesn't have to share.  

That gottdamm Navy term sheet deal is killing the AAC!!!!!!

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21 hours ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

Q: How much does baseball matter?

A: The Big West is one of the best baseball conferences in the country.

 

So are the SEC and ACC.

 

 

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27 minutes ago, SalinasSpartan said:

And the B1G sucks in baseball, what’s your point? 

 

Those other two major conferences are pretty good in football and hoops too.  The B1G does have some baseball history with Michigan and Minnesota and has also started earning more bids in recent years.

I concede in the grand scheme of things, baseball ain't that important outside of the west and deep south,  Boise adding it after 35+ years is kinda big though.

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The AAC is the CUSA, combined with some of the worst programs in CFB history (Temple, SMU, Tulane). Somehow, they have convinced themselves (but nobody else) that they are P6. This thing comes in cycles. Had Boise not blown it against Washington State, and had SDSU been 11-1, the MW championship game would have been the marquee game. This conference literally was two games away from that.

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5 minutes ago, fanhood said:

The AAC is the CUSA, combined with some of the worst programs in CFB history (Temple, SMU, Tulane). Somehow, they have convinced themselves (but nobody else) that they are P6. This thing comes in cycles. Had Boise not blown it against Washington State, and had SDSU been 11-1, the MW championship game would have been the marquee game. This conference literally was two games away from that.

Still wouldn't have topped an undefeated UCF team I don't think going against another ranked school with one of the most talked about up and coming coaches to take over a major P5 program.  

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17 minutes ago, Wyobraska said:

Still wouldn't have topped an undefeated UCF team I don't think going against another ranked school with one of the most talked about up and coming coaches to take over a major P5 program.  

We'll never know. Notice a 9-4 Stanford was one spot behind an undefeated UCF. Had we not gotten beaten by Fresno, we would have been close. Boise to a lesser extent due to the UVA blow out.

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1 hour ago, fanhood said:

The AAC is the CUSA, combined with some of the worst programs in CFB history (Temple, SMU, Tulane). Somehow, they have convinced themselves (but nobody else) that they are P6. 

is that why UCF is playing Auburn in the Peach Bowl...Memphis is playing Iowa State in the Liberty Bowl...USF is playing Texas Tech in the Birmingham Bowl...Navy is playing Virginia in the Military Bowl? [/rollseyes] (no way 11-1 SDSU gets in over 12-0 UCF)

then there's hoops where Cincy and WSU are ranked...then there's women's hoops where UConn always seems to win the title...and on and on and on

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15 minutes ago, UofMTigers said:

is that why UCF is playing Auburn in the Peach Bowl...Memphis is playing Iowa State in the Liberty Bowl...USF is playing Texas Tech in the Birmingham Bowl...Navy is playing Virginia in the Military Bowl? [/rollseyes] (no way 11-1 SDSU gets in over 12-0 UCF)

then there's hoops where Cincy and WSU are ranked...then there's women's hoops where UConn always seems to win the title...and on and on and on

Like I said, cycles. Good year, and good bowl lineup for the AAC. I always give credit where it is due.

However, last year, your bowl lineup was not good, your Champion lost to Army, your other Division Champ lost to Air Force, and Army, and your programs went 1-6 in the Bowls, and I believe are something like 2-12 over the past two years.. 

Again, cycles. 

(please never bring up women's basketball again).

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13 minutes ago, fanhood said:

However, last year, your bowl lineup was not good

(please never bring up women's basketball again).

East Co-Champ USF defeated South Carolina in the Birmingham Bowl while East Co-Champ Temple fell to Wake in the Military Bowl...those are solid bowls.

Now I'll agree with you that Navy pulling CUSA runner-up La Tech was a little weak...I kinda feel like Navy should have played CUSA Champ WKU in Boca Raton...that way the AAC West Champ could at least say 'we got a conference champion in our bowl game' (and Navy would have given them a better game than we did IMHO)

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1 hour ago, fanhood said:

The AAC is the CUSA, combined with some of the worst programs in CFB history (Temple, SMU, Tulane). Somehow, they have convinced themselves (but nobody else) that they are P6. This thing comes in cycles. Had Boise not blown it against Washington State, and had SDSU been 11-1, the MW championship game would have been the marquee game. This conference literally was two games away from that.

smu worst program in history? you realize smu has 3 national titles, a heisman and the award for the best running back is named after a plyer that went there...befroe you give any response your response said "some of the worst programs in CFB history"...history didnt start 20 years ago....hell tulane 3x has more  SEC conference championships than Mississippi stage

and temple had 10 really horrible years, after joining the big east...but are historically not that bad, theyve been to a sugar bowl. they aeraged 8/9 wins in the mac literaly right after ..and were averaging about 9 wins a season in the 70's... by almost every measurable standard these  arent anywhere near the worst cfb programs...and its not even close..they had had horrible stretches but are we going to ignore sdsu was doing 3 wins a season for almost a decade in the early 2000s? 

and we are heading into year 5 of The AAC, meaning in 2 years almost all the teams will have been in the AAC longer than c-usa...you keep saying we are just c-usa when half the teams were barely in c-usa, and teams like ucf/usf were fresh off the fcs when they were in it...also i watched 2 basketball games the last 2 days..cincy vs florida, wichita vs ok state. and they non stop preached the aac was an elite conference (they werent on the aac payroll)..the aac championship preached about how good the aac was...why are youacting like it is only us hyping us up..everyone hypes us up now..do they say p6? no but almost in their own aords say this is a comparable league 

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'historically' Memphis football is terrible but our time in the AAC (last 4-5 seasons) has been fantastic....just as historically SMU hoops isn't any good but just look at the last 3-4 seasons

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38 minutes ago, fanhood said:

Like I said, cycles. Good year, and good bowl lineup for the AAC. I always give credit where it is due.

However, last year, your bowl lineup was not good, your Champion lost to Army, your other Division Champ lost to Air Force, and Army, and your programs went 1-6 in the Bowls, and I believe are something like 2-12 over the past two years.. 

Again, cycles. 

(please never bring up women's basketball again).

how was our bowl line up not good last year?

-champion vs local p5

-#2 vs sec 

-houston (#6 aac) vs MWC Champion

-memphis (#5) vs c-usa champion

-ucf (#7) vs sunbelt champion

-and navy vs the #2 c-usa (navy was without qb in the game)

we had 1 bad bowl 

that isnt a bad lineup...and what does record have to do with bowl line up????..that is stupid rebuttal in a argument about quality of bowl. that is a meaningless manipulative point. anyone with any smarts can see right through...the big 10 has only had 1 winning bowl record the last decade (by far the worst p5 bowl record)..yet they also have the best bowl line up..better bowls equals harder opponents..equals worse records....

what cycle are you making up? laso the last 2 mwc champs before this year *cough sdsu *cough..lost to south alabama in blowouts..what room do you guys have to talk 

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5 minutes ago, pesik said:

smu worst program in history? you realize smu has 3 national titles, a heisman and the award for the best running back is named after a plyer that went there...befroe you give any response your response said "some of the worst programs in CFB history"...history didnt start 20 years ago....hell tulane 3x has more  SEC conference championships than Mississippi stage

and temple had 10 really horrible years, after joining the big east...but are historically not that bad, theyve been to a sugar bowl. they aeraged 8/9 wins in the mac literaly right after ..and were averaging about 9 wins a season in the 70's... by almost every measurable standard these  arent anywhere near the worst cfb programs...and its not even close..they had had horrible stretches but are we going to ignore sdsu was doing 3 wins a season for almost a decade in the early 2000s? 

and we are heading into year 5 of The AAC, meaning in 2 years almost all the teams will have been in the AAC longer than c-usa...you keep saying we are just c-usa when half the teams were barely in c-usa, and teams like ucf/usf were fresh off the fcs when they were in it...also i watched 2 basketball games the last 2 days..cincy vs florida, wichita vs ok state. and they non stop preached the aac was an elite conference (they werent on the aac payroll)..the aac championship preached about how good the aac was...why are youacting like it is only us hyping us up..everyone hypes us up now..do they say p6? no but almost in their own aords say this is a comparable league 

that ship has sailed and those days are gone.  it's not 1980 anymore and you should stop lying to yourself.

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Just now, Rofl_copter_dos said:

that ship has sailed and those days are gone.  it's not 1980 anymore and you should stop lying to yourself.

thats fine..but he clearly said in "history"..history didnt start in 95...you should stop backing manipulative points...

he said smu is one of the worst programs in history ..i note smu has 3 national titles... you guys seem to be the ones lying to yourselves if you believe the first statement 

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1 minute ago, pesik said:

thats fine..but he clearly said in "history"..history didnt start in 95...you should stop backing manipulative points...

he said smu is one of the worst programs in history ..i note smu has 3 national titles... you guys seem to be the ones lying to yourselves if you believe the first statement 

smu has had four winning seasons since they came back from the death penalty

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3 minutes ago, Rofl_copter_dos said:

smu has had four winning seasons since they came back from the death penalty

its actually 6 not 4, and a 7th .500 season...but back to main point. "history" is all encompassing and doesnt start at your point of preference 

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On 12/8/2017 at 3:07 PM, MAD MACGYVER said:

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This is a good graphic comparison.  The obvious conclusion is that the AAC was better than the MW more so in 2016 than in 2017.  San Diego State and Fresno State both improved significantly (although one might quibble that the bulldogs should be ahead of the Aztecs based on their head to head results).  Perhaps the "SEC Mountain" is a bit much to talk about right now but New Mexico beat Tulsa in Tulsa and that was the major American versus Mountain West matchup.  Fresno State versus Houston should also be a good matchup because Houston is still considered to have a good defensive line. 

This was a good year for the AAC.  UCF and USF proved to be a very entertaining  rivalry game that definitely earned great ratings.  Memphis played a great game against UCLA.  The Championship game was also very entertaining.

But if the Power 6 talk is about getting paid in 2020, I don't think there is any reason to see the Mountain West "in the dust" with respect to ESPN.  If anything, the MW proved that they can get ratings about what the Pac 12 gets (unless it's USC) in the Window 4 time slot on ESPN  http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/  As far as Pac 12 fans are concerned, we want fewer Wndow 4 and Friday games and the Mountain West should be able to capitalize on the uncertainty that Disney will have about the cost of the Pac 12 tv rights after 2025.

The American, however, is likely to price itself out of being on ESPN entirely.  ESPN's cost cutting is still going to primarily focus on properties that can compliment the SEC or ACC.  The Mountain West can put Window 4 games on that compliment ESPN's existing college sports networks and the MW isn't operating a direct competitor to ESPN like the Pac 12 is.   The American has a lost of teams in markets with either a Fox sports (UCF and USF in Florida for example) and NBC Sports (Temple is in Comcast's home market) so that makes sense and Fox may put Houston, Memphis, UCF and USF games on their broadcast after the ratings that the UCF and USF matchup got.

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51 minutes ago, Bruininthebay said:

This is a good graphic comparison.  The obvious conclusion is that the AAC was better than the MW more so in 2016 than in 2017.  San Diego State and Fresno State both improved significantly (although one might quibble that the bulldogs should be ahead of the Aztecs based on their head to head results).  Perhaps the "SEC Mountain" is a bit much to talk about right now but New Mexico beat Tulsa in Tulsa and that was the major American versus Mountain West matchup.  Fresno State versus Houston should also be a good matchup because Houston is still considered to have a good defensive line. 

This was a good year for the AAC.  UCF and USF proved to be a very entertaining  rivalry game that definitely earned great ratings.  Memphis played a great game against UCLA.  The Championship game was also very entertaining.

But if the Power 6 talk is about getting paid in 2020, I don't think there is any reason to see the Mountain West "in the dust" with respect to ESPN.  If anything, the MW proved that they can get ratings about what the Pac 12 gets (unless it's USC) in the Window 4 time slot on ESPN  http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/  As far as Pac 12 fans are concerned, we want fewer Wndow 4 and Friday games and the Mountain West should be able to capitalize on the uncertainty that Disney will have about the cost of the Pac 12 tv rights after 2025.

The American, however, is likely to price itself out of being on ESPN entirely.  ESPN's cost cutting is still going to primarily focus on properties that can compliment the SEC or ACC.  The Mountain West can put Window 4 games on that compliment ESPN's existing college sports networks and the MW isn't operating a direct competitor to ESPN like the Pac 12 is.   The American has a lost of teams in markets with either a Fox sports (UCF and USF in Florida for example) and NBC Sports (Temple is in Comcast's home market) so that makes sense and Fox may put Houston, Memphis, UCF and USF games on their broadcast after the ratings that the UCF and USF matchup got.

I think this ignores the reality of an independent BYU and a separately negotiated Boise agreement.   In the case of Boise, they get paid the same regardless of what ESPN pays us.  That situation insures Boise will push the contract to ESPN regardless of what they pay.   

Between Boise and BYU, ESPN has all the window 4 content they need.

 

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