halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 What, you all do not want to get into an argument that includes year to year computer models showing Boise was far and +++++ing away the best non AQ program of the BCS era? Pussy ass bitches. Just say when...I dare you. The numbers make it +++++ing crystal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycamper Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: It true. Arguing that Boise was not the premier non AQ program during the BCS era is a folly. We were. I missed all those SI and Madden covers for Utah and TCU I guess. This is v sad my guy Quote Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, happycamper said: This is v sad my guy Au contraire. This decade old argument and needs to be argued with decade old points. Boise State was THE Non AQ program. Arguing otherwise means you are out of touch. Boise was far and away the biggest name and brand in the non AQ. If you disagree, you are lying. Period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Utah especially was Boise States little media bitch. Total little sister. ROFLMFAO that Boise stole their thunder. Every college football fan remembers Boise and has forgot those Utah teams, the whole TWO of them. Hilarious. right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactowndog Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 5 hours ago, happycamper said: Nah he leaves or that the top third of the mw has left while the top third of the wac joined. Typical wac off stuff Not sure what you are referring to but @halfmanhalfbronco’s point is much of what I was referring to though I would probably have added Houston and a good Hawaii under June Jones also. But then again I would have added teams from Texas this go around and Wichita State a couple years ago. This conference consistently thinks short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactowndog Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, utenation said: Houston, Cincy, WVU and UCF aren't academic giants. Average at best according to US News. I don't really think the B12 has modeled their invites on academic profile only. I think they wanted to fill holes with sports related numbers and possibly snag decent revenue. With BSU's reputation of being King of the Mountain and waves and waves of national interest, I'm surprised BSU wasn't top choice considering BSU's firepower when they were top dog as recent as 2014. You do know Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF are all R1 Universities? Carnegie is a much more respected measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthlobo Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 What happened to the non-sports section?? Anyway during the golden days: Utah>TCU>BSU. Sorry @halfmanhalfbronco (Oh and UNM was the best BB MWC team ever under Alford ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetropolitanCowboy Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Au contraire. This decade old argument and needs to be argued with decade old points. Boise State was THE Non AQ program. Arguing otherwise means you are out of touch. Boise was far and away the biggest name and brand in the non AQ. If you disagree, you are lying. Period Utah >>> BSU during that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Stealthlobo said: What happened to the non-sports section?? Anyway during the golden days: Utah>TCU>BSU. Sorry @halfmanhalfbronco (Oh and UNM was the best BB MWC team ever under Alford ) I mean lots of stupid on this board. Boise was head and shoulders better through the BCS era than Utah. Arguing otherwise is +++++ing stupid and ignoring math and numbers. Not even close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Just now, MetropolitanCowboy said: Utah >>> BSU during that time. Stupid. Utah had only two good years. Boise much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetropolitanCowboy Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Just now, halfmanhalfbronco said: Stupid. Utah had only two good years. Boise much more. Not at all. I will say though, the 2007 Fiesta is one of the best games I’ve ever watched in my life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 minute ago, MetropolitanCowboy said: Not at all. I will say though, the 2007 Fiesta is one of the best games I’ve ever watched in my life. Utah had two great years. Boise had 5, and a 6th after the division. No comparison. Utah posted a bunch of mediocre seasons while Boise was being talked about as a nation title contender that would never be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthlobo Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: I mean lots of stupid on this board. Boise was head and shoulders better through the BCS era than Utah. Arguing otherwise is +++++ing stupid and ignoring math and numbers. Not even close. That demolition of bama by Utah is one of the proudest memories I have of a MWC team. Maybe us old school Mountain westerners are biased because boise was in the wac when they beat Oklahoma. I remember the trick plays, but not the game. Re: Utah, I was like 25 at the time when they beat Bama and I think I still have the highlight YouTube video saved somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Stealthlobo said: That demolition of bama by Utah is one of the proudest memories I have of a MWC team. Maybe us old school Mountain westerners are biased because boise was in the wac when they beat Oklahoma. I remember the trick plays, but not the game. That game was far and away the most impressive. No question. Does not change the FACT that Boise was considered the premier non AQ team. Just does not. And while Utah had two good seasons Boise had several seasons that garnered more national attention than Utah ever did. When it came to media attention, Utah and TCU were our bitches, much more Utah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthlobo Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Just now, halfmanhalfbronco said: That game was far and away the most impressive. No question. Does not change the FACT that Boise was considered the premier non AQ team. Just does not. And while Utah had two good seasons Boise had half a dozen seasons that garnered more national attention than Utah ever did. Heh, I think they garnered that attention because of the blue field... I do admit I was swayed a lot by the posters on this board during that time too. The TCU posters were few but chill, I liked the Utah posters too, but the Boise one's were obnoxious! (Ian for Heisman has already mentioned how he used to be back then lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Stealthlobo said: Heh, I think they garnered that attention because of the blue field... I do admit I was swayed a lot by the posters on this board during that time too. The TCU posters were few but chill, I liked the Utah posters too, but the Boise one's were obnoxious! (Ian for Heisman has already mentioned how he used to be back then lol) I mean it just is what it is. Most college football fans do not even have a memory of Utah football in the MWC They ALL have a memory of Fiesta win and the "great debate" about us playing for a title. Boise still holds 2 of the top 5 games on ESPN ever. Utah's moment in the sun simply can not compare. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetropolitanCowboy Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: Utah had two great years. Boise had 5, and a 6th after the division. No comparison. Utah posted a bunch of mediocre seasons while Boise was being talked about as a nation title contender that would never be. No one ever did that. Time to lay off the edibles for the night lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactowndog Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Stealthlobo said: What happened to the non-sports section?? Anyway during the golden days: Utah>TCU>BSU. Sorry @halfmanhalfbronco (Oh and UNM was the best BB MWC team ever under Alford ) Perhaps but that doesn’t mean adding Boise, Fresno, Hawaii and Houston wouldn’t have made the conference stronger nationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, sactowndog said: You do know Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF are all R1 Universities? Carnegie is a much more respected measure. I've tried finding any article suggesting that academics was a big requirement for this latest round of additions. I couldn't find anything. Everything was centered around athletic success, revenue and stabilizing the conference. No mention of academics in this article. Not once. “Today’s vote solidifies the long-term trajectory of the Big 12 Conference,” stated Commissioner Bob Bowlsby. “I applaud the efforts of our presidents, chancellors and athletics directors of our continuing members to expeditiously consider and take this action. The addition of these four fine institutions ensures the continued success of the Big 12 at the highest levels of intercollegiate athletics competition.” https://big12sports.com/news/2021/9/10/big-12-conference-adds-four-new-members.aspx I did find something from 2016 that said academics was fifth on the list of reasons to add teams. Halfman's point is that academic profile was the reason they got snubbed this last round. I don't buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 minute ago, MetropolitanCowboy said: No one ever did that. Time to lay off the edibles for the night lol Don't challenge me on this, you are not as stupid as I am nor as petty https://www.foxnews.com/sports/put-em-in-or-keep-em-out-the-boise-state-debate https://bleacherreport.com/articles/442867-boise-state-national-championship-debate-the-bottom-of-the-barrel https://www.newsday.com/sports/college/college-football/bcs-debate-over-boise-state-heats-up-again-1.2356960 All on page 1 of google. Not interested in finding more past page 1 (the other references were towards our national debate championship run ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...