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4 hours ago, NorCalCoug said:

BYU will have 10K+ there to complement the 500 or so UNLV fans that show up, so yes, there will be more than 10K there.  It is a virtual home game for BYU in LES South.

that was my point. 10k BYU fans in the stands.

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3 hours ago, Willie Cee said:

Regarding Fireworks - It is always a mystery why some will diminish crowd counts that result from a successful promotion. A fireworks show is no more or less what every entertainment oriented sponsor (including every college and pro sports enterprise) invests in to build a crowd at their event. If, for example, Fresno State offers a free bobble head night for Derrick Carr that attracts a full house, should we diminish the result because it was gained using a promotion? It always seems that others on this board would somehow differentiate average attendance that includes a fireworks show from average attendance without including it, why? The Aztecs lead this conference in attendance and with Stanford and Boise State on the home schedule, will do so again. Also, just in case you doubt the crowd count, take a look at some of the pictures suggesting 3/4 full in a 70,000 seat stadium. It's always been a specious argument to suggest SDSU fakes larger crowds, when in fact it uses the same standards as all other conference mates employ.

Another example: SDSU will have over 45k for the game against Stanford. If we beat Arizona State, the game could have close to 55k. We will also have over 45k for the game against Boise State. Naturally, the quality of the other team effects this. Should that be considered when averaging our attendance? 

Anyway, dominated. Again.

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16 hours ago, NorCalCoug said:

BYU will have more than 10K there by themselves.

it will be all BYU if UNLV has stinking it up - even if UNLV is .500 it will still be mostly BYU fans 

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3 hours ago, Willie Cee said:

Regarding Fireworks - It is always a mystery why some will diminish crowd counts that result from a successful promotion. A fireworks show is no more or less what every entertainment oriented sponsor (including every college and pro sports enterprise) invests in to build a crowd at their event. If, for example, Fresno State offers a free bobble head night for Derrick Carr that attracts a full house, should we diminish the result because it was gained using a promotion? It always seems that others on this board would somehow differentiate average attendance that includes a fireworks show from average attendance without including it, why? The Aztecs lead this conference in attendance and with Stanford and Boise State on the home schedule, will do so again. Also, just in case you doubt the crowd count, take a look at some of the pictures suggesting 3/4 full in a 70,000 seat stadium. It's always been a specious argument to suggest SDSU fakes larger crowds, when in fact it uses the same standards as all other conference mates employ.

Not sure who's diminishing crowd sizes enhanced by successful promotions..that's part of the deal..but there is a correlation, same applies to quality of home schedule opponents and team's current level of success.  We all know this.

As for faking crowd sizes...yes, we all count tix distributed, not BITS...pretty sure the SD rag did a story on turnstile counts v. distribution a few years ago...that's probably where some of the stories come from...but, as you say, we're all guilty of that accounting approach. 

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41 minutes ago, av-rated said:

Not sure who's diminishing crowd sizes enhanced by successful promotions..that's part of the deal..but there is a correlation, same applies to quality of home schedule opponents and team's current level of success.  We all know this.

Well, you can almost guarantee there will be a comment about exaggerated crowd count in any conference thread on attendance, if SDSU was to average over 40,000 this year (very likely with the combination of home schedule and visiting teams as you point out) someone (usually a Wyoming poster) will attempt to diminish the achievement with a mention of the "fireworks boost" or some sarcastic remark about how they count (tickets distributed) attendance in San Diego vs everyone else. I just wanted to set the record straight that every team in existence puts on promotions to boost attendance, nothing is different about the Sky Show except it is more successful than most promotions. 

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33 minutes ago, Willie Cee said:

Well, you can almost guarantee there will be a comment about exaggerated crowd count in any conference thread on attendance, if SDSU was to average over 40,000 this year (very likely with the combination of home schedule and visiting teams as you point out) someone (usually a Wyoming poster) will attempt to diminish the achievement with a mention of the "fireworks boost" or some sarcastic remark about how they count (tickets distributed) attendance in San Diego vs everyone else. I just wanted to set the record straight that every team in existence puts on promotions to boost attendance, nothing is different about the Sky Show except it is more successful than most promotions. 

Yes how true and how annoying its some peoples mantra. 

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