is it painfully obvious yet that the MWC needs Shocker's help?

[RAMification]

I'm not a Basketball knowledgeable guy.  But it seems pretty obvious that overall, across the board, the MWC's brand of MBB lacks the TOUGHNESS required to enter National Level Tourney's, and to succeed !!  We've become a 1-Bid Conference... and on 1 bid can't move past Round #1, and never approaches the Sweet 16, much less Final 4.

If our college Prez's + CT do not understand the need for the MWC to solve this problem asap, then they are dumber than I thought they were after the last 2 rounds of MWC Conference shake-ups... which they made themselves look like FOOLS (failing to invite Boise in 2007 before UU, then TCU left... then inviting Boise, then un-inviting Boise, then re-inviting Boise... then the BYU debacle).

Maybe there is another solution to develop TOUGHNESS in the MWC's MBB... but I certainly cannot think of any that are right in our lap today (which the Shockers have been, begging for MWC membership).  And SCREW the "MWC is only Fball teams" tag line of bureaucrats.  Any COnference can make any exception to it's bylaws... if it's deemed necessary to improve that COnference.  And Finances can be worked out to provide Rev Neutrality for the MWC.  So can Schedules.   

Many have already posted this but just a reminder..... Shocker's to the MWC ASAP for Oly Sports, in place of UHa, which balances the league out w/ 12 Fball & 12 Oly teams.  

Then the MWC can gain that TOurney TOughness needed to move forward again in MBB & Oly SPorts... as it seeks to strengthen its Fball conference.  

The 1 advantage the AAC has over the MWC is it's MBB success & revenues... as potential new members consider MWC vs AAC for affiliation.  Just saying..... 

[toonkee]

Yes.

 

[RiverCityBronco]

And Gonzaga and maybe St. Mary's. 

[Joe from WY]

It would benefit everyone. WSU got gypped because they play in a worse conference than the MWC and our whole image has gone down the tubes largely after losing one great hoops program (Utah) and one decent one (BYU). It'd boost our profile and theirs. 

My brother called me last night and was complaining about it. It just makes sense. They're going to want to jump soon so being proactive and adding them would not only boost our profile, but stop some other conference like the American or A10 from getting better. 

[ole blu dude]

 I would be in favor of Wichita State coming to the MWC, however the biggest problem is the down fall of many schools that are in the conference now, several have taken big falls, that needs to be improved asap. We need much more than one more member.

[Chad Sexington]

I think Wichita State would be a homerun add, and have been saying it since word came out of their interest in the MWC. 

If this conference has to carry them in football until they get their bearings, then +++++ing do it.

What they would do for the conference profile would be huge.

[Chad Sexington]

1 hour ago, RiverCityBronco said:

And Gonzaga and maybe St. Mary's. 

Non-starters, both.

[k5james]

Stupid.  Yeah, let's add more mouths to feed.

[SleepingGiantFan]

If it's true that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, adding Wichita State, Gonzaga and/or St. Mary's to the MWC is irrelevant. That's because, Rams, when Boise and SDSU no longer had a vote, you guys and half a dozen others decided to add San Jose State.

[Chad Sexington]

8 minutes ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

If it's true that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, adding Wichita State, Gonzaga and/or St. Mary's to the MWC is irrelevant. That's because, Rams, when Boise and SDSU no longer had a vote, you guys and half a dozen others decided to add San Jose State.

Troof. 

[ole blu dude]

16 minutes ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

If it's true that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, adding Wichita State, Gonzaga and/or St. Mary's to the MWC is irrelevant. That's because, Rams, when Boise and SDSU no longer had a vote, you guys and half a dozen others decided to add San Jose State.

So the big ten is only as strong as its weakest link which is Northwestern which just went to their first NCAA basketball playoff. I think the weakness is because UNLV, New Mexico, San Diego had down seasons along with the rest of us. I find it hard to blame San Jose alone for the down turn of so many.

[Joe from WY]

I don't think you could have pried Gonzaga and St. Mary's away from the Catholic League even when UU and BYU were here, let alone now. That was always a pipedream. 

WSU isn't though. 

[happycamper]

Why stop at Wichita State, Gonzaga and Saint Mary's? Why not invite Villanova, Xavier, and Notre Dame while we're at it?

[mugtang]

39 minutes ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

If it's true that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link, adding Wichita State, Gonzaga and/or St. Mary's to the MWC is irrelevant. That's because, Rams, when Boise and SDSU no longer had a vote, you guys and half a dozen others decided to add San Jose State.

Sorry about that.  But you guys did try to leave us.  

[k5james]

How does splitting our meager money to add Wichita State make any sense?  If Wichita State was in the MWC this year the MWC would have still been a one bid league.  They would be a net drain on the league and this conversation is fuktarded.

[Joe from WY]

22 minutes ago, happycamper said:

Why stop at Wichita State, Gonzaga and Saint Mary's? Why not invite Villanova, Xavier, and Notre Dame while we're at it?

Providence. Just for the Italian Food. 

[SpartanGrad]

With TV negotiations coming up, you could make the argument that Wichita could increase our leverage in those talks...

[SleepingGiantFan]

36 minutes ago, mugtang said:

Sorry about that.  But you guys did try to leave us.  

There's no disputing that. My point is simply that decision will forever haunt this conference.

And Northwestern isn't at all the same. Having NW and Illinois both in the fold since forever means the B1G has always and will likely always own the country's third largest media center. For MWC decision makers to think that bringing in SJSU would give them more than 5% of the Bay Area was pure naivete.

[RiverCityBronco]

What would really help our basketball profile is if UNLV would just go back to being UNLV.  This slump has been dragging on for long enough. 

[mugtang]

3 minutes ago, SleepingGiantsFan said:

There's no disputing that. My point is simply that decision will forever haunt this conference.

And Northwestern isn't at all the same. Having NW and Illinois both in the fold since forever means the B1G has always and will likely always own the country's third largest media center. For MWC decision makers to think that bringing in SJSU would give them more than 5% of the Bay Area was pure naivete.

Next time don't try to whore yourselves out