halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Not alive, but can can identify as a different sex? Thanks Katie Couric. https://megynkelly.org/248342/video-katie-couric-says-a-female-fetus-can-feel-like-it-is-a-male/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngredbullfan Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Intersexed, yeah trans ,no Quote On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said: I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite. 28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, youngrebelfan40 said: Intersexed, yeah trans ,no So do you think a female fetus can feel male? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugtang Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, halfmanhalfbronco said: So do you think a female fetus can feel male? But if the fetus can feel it is a male does this make it a human and does aborting it make it murder? 2 Quote thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 minute ago, mugtang said: But if the fetus can feel it is a male does this make it a human and does aborting it make it murder? I mean Katie Couric is not an expert on prenatal biology or psychology, just wondering what our resident democrats have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngredbullfan Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: So do you think a female fetus can feel male? Nah, I don't think it's sentient Quote On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said: I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite. 28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrabbit Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 She noticed that a little boys "thing" works days old....very scientific. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokebball Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Jackrabbit said: She noticed that a little boys "thing" works at an incredible early age....very scientific. Of course we already knew that Quote The World Needs More Cowboys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSUMFA2013 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I'm no scientist, but the "feeling" part of this seems specious on its face. My understanding of transgenderism(?) is that it's biological. Certainly that process could start pre-birth but I don't think a fetus is aware of anything happening to it. What matters to you of course is getting into a moral pissing contest with a bunch of other men about a women's issue. Whatever. Sure. The moral question of abortion, to me, is separate from the legal one. It should always remain safe and legal. I don't care if scientists discover that fetuses can fart in rythmn with Pink Floyd, a woman who wants an abortion should be allowed to get one. Think about the decision she's making. She's going through with a traumatic procedure despite the judgment she knows she'll receive from others and the stigma surrounding it. The reasons are personal and don't matter. Rape, incest, health risks, crazy parents, financial difficulties, drug addiction, and yes, even birth control, are valid reasons. Think about the kind of person who would get an abortion for convenience. Do you really want her raising a child? Hell, what if it's not her own convenience but the fathers? Does that sound like a good environment for a child? you can think whatever you want about abortion. I happen to think it's barbaric, particularly late in the pregnancy. I would never want someone I cared about to get one. However, it is not, and never will be, my decision. I'm content to stay out of it and let women decide what's best for themselves. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfmanhalfbronco Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, SJSUMFA2013 said: I'm no scientist, but the "feeling" part of this seems specious on its face. My understanding of transgenderism(?) is that it's biological. Certainly that process could start pre-birth but I don't think a fetus is aware of anything happening to it. What matters to you of course is getting into a moral pissing contest with a bunch of other men about a women's issue. Whatever. Sure. The moral question of abortion, to me, is separate from the legal one. It should always remain safe and legal. I don't care if scientists discover that fetuses can fart in rythmn with Pink Floyd, a woman who wants an abortion should be allowed to get one. Think about the decision she's making. She's going through with a traumatic procedure despite the judgment she knows she'll receive from others and the stigma surrounding it. The reasons are personal and don't matter. Rape, incest, health risks, crazy parents, financial difficulties, drug addiction, and yes, even birth control, are valid reasons. Think about the kind of person who would get an abortion for convenience. Do you really want her raising a child? Hell, what if it's not her own convenience but the fathers? Does that sound like a good environment for a child? you can think whatever you want about abortion. I happen to think it's barbaric, particularly late in the pregnancy. I would never want someone I cared about to get one. However, it is not, and never will be, my decision. I'm content to stay out of it and let women decide what's best for themselves. God you are a dolt. My position on abortion has been laid out dozens of times and is pretty similar to yours. In fact I am pretty sure you just plagiarized me. I'm just making fun of Couric, another celebrity who spouts of on issues they are ignorant on and making a fool of herself in an attempt to get some PR. A Hollywood disease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerules009 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 hours ago, youngrebelfan40 said: Nah, I don't think. Fixed your statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerules009 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, SJSUMFA2013 said: I don't think Limited your post to only the accurate information you provided. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSUMFA2013 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 40 minutes ago, halfmanhalfbronco said: God you are a dolt. My position on abortion has been laid out dozens of times and is pretty similar to yours. In fact I am pretty sure you just plagiarized me. I'm just making fun of Couric, another celebrity who spouts of on issues they are ignorant on and making a fool of herself in an attempt to get some PR. A Hollywood disease. 27 minutes ago, bluerules009 said: Limited your post to only the accurate information you provided. Jesus guys take it easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngredbullfan Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, bluerules009 said: Fixed your statement. Unfortunately your mother botched your coat hanger abortion. That's why you are the way you are now. Quote On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said: I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite. 28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco2007 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I'm glad @Dogs4me is still making headlines . Figured he was dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebels18 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 So a fetus can 'feel' and is enough of a living person to identify with a gender..But on the other hand, the left claims fetus's are just a "clump of cells" and killing unborn children is completely justified because they aren't a person until their mother decides whether to have them or not...unless the fetus identifies as trans then its a person again? Haha, the left really shouldn't co-mingle their beliefs if they're going to contradict. . @SJSUMFA2013 It's not about taking away a woman's rights and what to do with their bodies. but the right's and body of an unborn child's life. I'm not a fan of abortion as you could guess- It's not difficult to use protection or pony-up for morning-after pills. Anything after 8 weeks should be off-limits to abort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph90702 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Michael Savage says that liberalism is a mental disorder, and when people like Katie Couric make claims like this, it's supports his case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngredbullfan Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, ph90702 said: Michael Savage says that liberalism is a mental disorder, and when people like Katie Couric make claims like this, it's supports his case. Autism is a mental disorder 2 Quote On 12/1/2016 at 12:26 PM, WyomingCoog said: I own a vehicle likely worth more than everything you own combined and just flew first class (including a ticket for a 2 1/2 year old), round trip to Las Vegas and I'm not 35 yet. When you accomplish something outside of finishing a book, let me know. When's the last time you saw a 2 year old fly first class in their own seat? Don't tell me about elite. 28 minutes ago, NorCalCoug said: I’d happily compare IQ’s with you any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSUMFA2013 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, youngrebelfan40 said: Autism is a mental disorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph90702 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 51 minutes ago, youngrebelfan40 said: Autism is a mental disorder Are you saying I'm autistic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...