Eat_Your_Dried_Fruits Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 This is a blessing for us in the Central Valley that the man upstairs has granted. We just need water storage now but our ultra liberal governor could give a dam about that. All he cares about is the high speed rail which is an absolute disaster. It's amazing how much different the Central Valley is versus the rest of the state. Seems like the rest of the state has gone scenile. I'm optimistic with Trump though. He came to Fresno during his campaign and he spoke to many big wig farmers around the area. The problem is we have water but it's being flushed out to the ocean due to environmental restrictions. Huge job killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonkee Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Eat_Your_Dried_Fruits said: This is a blessing for us in the Central Valley that the man upstairs has granted. We just need water storage now but our ultra liberal governor could give a dam about that. All he cares about is the high speed rail which is an absolute disaster. It's amazing how much different the Central Valley is versus the rest of the state. Seems like the rest of the state has gone scenile. I'm optimistic with Trump though. He came to Fresno during his campaign and he spoke to many big wig farmers around the area. The problem is we have water but it's being flushed out to the ocean due to environmental restrictions. Huge job killer. Explain, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headbutt Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Really happy to see some of those areas coming out of the drought. It's about time. OTOH, it's a little scary to see the drought moving back into the plains. I was in SE CO this week and in a conversation with a local businessman and a couple of farmers there was a pretty depressing tone. Between the return of the drought that we've only been out of for about two years and the absolutely terrible crop and cattle prices, their prediction was that we could easily lose 50% of our farms down there by 2018. Of course it won't be quite that bad (nothing says gloom and doom like talking to a farmer when prices are low), but there will definitely be some pretty heavy economic impact to come. Those guys came out of the last drought dead broke, and the bankers are telling them no on any new operating loans right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat_Your_Dried_Fruits Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 38 minutes ago, toonkee said: Explain, please. Google Delta Smelt Controversy and you'll see why. To sum it up: California politicians think it's more important to preserve a 2 inch feeder fish than to preserve some of the most fertile farmland in the world. Money talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jiddump Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 One year ago this was a dry (drier than @Dr. Dre's mom after John #15 of the night) lake bed with weeds reaching 15' tall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jiddump Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Coyote Creek Trail under about six feet of water #SuckItTourDeFranceFaigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacksThePack Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 This has been seemingly a much wetter and colder winter here in Portland. Mt Hood was expecting crowds of the year this weekend after the midweek storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jiddump Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 The old fishing lake for kids most South Bay natives would recognize from their youths (closed down a few years back). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztech Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 13 hours ago, Hugh Jiddump said: The old fishing lake for kids most South Bay natives would recognize from their youths (closed down a few years back). Is water going over the spillway @ Anderson Dam? That's the drought buster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 1/13/2017 at 0:59 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said: Yea but everything on the east side of the range sucks. On 1/13/2017 at 1:02 AM, UNLV2001 said: Wheat growing flat-landers That whole region is responsible for holding SUDS back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerider Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 On 1/12/2017 at 5:39 PM, UNLV2001 said: Drought west of the Rockies is much less............but look right of the Rockies and you see a bit more drought areas, especially east of Denver & ABQ Whats odd to me is the Rocky Mtns get snow by the feet in some cases, yet 100-150 miles east it might only snow an inch. Thats how its been lately, and the plains did not get much rain at all since July 1 in the summer either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLV2001 Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 5 hours ago, pokerider said: Whats odd to me is the Rocky Mtns get snow by the feet in some cases, yet 100-150 miles east it might only snow an inch. Thats how its been lately, and the plains did not get much rain at all since July 1 in the summer either. Same thing for western Nevada - Both Rockies & Sierra's create precipitation shadows to their downwind side (east of the range) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jiddump Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 1/16/2017 at 1:29 AM, aztech said: Is water going over the spillway @ Anderson Dam? That's the drought buster. The lake was drained past halfway bc ithe dam is a seismic risk so we will never know. San Luis has risen drastically I hear can't wait to see the difference when we go over the hill next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevadaFan Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 1/12/2017 at 8:16 PM, Eat_Your_Dried_Fruits said: Google Delta Smelt Controversy and you'll see why. To sum it up: California politicians think it's more important to preserve a 2 inch feeder fish than to preserve some of the most fertile farmland in the world. Money talks. I don't consider myself "green" but doesn't farming already get like 50 percent of the water used in Cal? God forbid that amongst all that waste you actually try to save a species from going extinct. And I've read the facts. You, like Trump read and retain what you want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztech Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Hugh Jiddump said: The lake was drained past halfway bc ithe dam is a seismic risk so we will never know. San Luis has risen drastically I hear can't wait to see the difference when we go over the hill next month. What a bunch of shit. Anderson Dam has been there since after WWII and has withstood all severity of earthquakes. What are they proposing? A costly concrete structure like Hoover Dam? Dumb. Anyway, if Coyote Lake is going over the spillway that should really ease the drought situation since that overflow feeds Anderson. BTW, doesn't San Luis water come from the Sacto River? I doubt if rain by itself could fill it, even though it poured in the last couple of weeks. for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimwhit Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, NevadaFan said: I don't consider myself "green" but doesn't farming already get like 50 percent of the water used in Cal? God forbid that amongst all that waste you actually try to save a species from going extinct. And I've read the facts. You, like Trump read and retain what you want to. How exactly is farming a 'waste' of water? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crixus Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 California is still in drought mode, but things are definitely looking up! These last 5+ years have been rough on us. More rain is expected this week here in SoCal. Prayers go up...and blessings come down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat_Your_Dried_Fruits Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 5 hours ago, NevadaFan said: I don't consider myself "green" but doesn't farming already get like 50 percent of the water used in Cal? God forbid that amongst all that waste you actually try to save a species from going extinct. And I've read the facts. You, like Trump read and retain what you want to. Comments like that are one of the many things that are wrong with California. It's left coast stupidity at its finest. Statewide, average water use is roughly 50% environmental, 40% agricultural, and 10% urban, although the percentage of water use by sector varies dramatically across regions and between wet and dry years. That 50% includes the water saving a 2 inch feeder fish. Agriculture is the backbone of this state. 40% of what ships out of the port of Oakland is Ag products. Agriculture creates a domino affect of jobs. From the field worker to the tractor driver to the farm manager to the farm labor contractor to the irrigation specialist to the Pest Control Advisor to the food processor to the truck driver to the broker to the Ag equipment manufacturing firm just to name a few. You see a pattern here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK_05 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/16/2017 at 7:25 AM, pokerider said: Whats odd to me is the Rocky Mtns get snow by the feet in some cases, yet 100-150 miles east it might only snow an inch. Thats how its been lately, and the plains did not get much rain at all since July 1 in the summer either. just have to understand how the winds blow https://www.ventusky.com/?p=41.0;-107.6;4&l=wind-500hpa the plains are the plains for a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerider Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 20 hours ago, TK_05 said: just have to understand how the winds blow https://www.ventusky.com/?p=41.0;-107.6;4&l=wind-500hpa the plains are the plains for a reason well, last year we got a lot more snow. But the big snowfalls in Colo frontrange seem to occur in Mar-Apr. but then they melt quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...