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56 minutes ago, kalua pig said:

looks like the best option for sdsu is to join the big west and send their football team to join ucdavis.

To be semi-serious for just a second -- the writer could have just as easily left SMU, Rice and/or Tulane out of the B12/16 and still have had at least 5 teams in TX with both the Houston and Dallas/Ft Worth markets covered. This would have  allowed them to add Boise St, CO St. and/or WYO to that conference.

That would have allowed for a 5th California team like SDSU, Fresno St or SJSU and/or a 2nd NV or UT team.

 

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18 hours ago, HighNTight_SD said:

7 of 16 teams all in Texas? I'm sure this is the very composition Oklahoma and Texas were hoping for when discussing expansion.

Don't knock the writer 'cause he's special. You can only see it under a black light but the guy has ROKET SCIENTIST tattooed on his forehead.

Boom goes the dynamite.

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1 minute ago, kalua pig said:

sdsu doesn't benefit the pac.just like fresno.

LoL ... SDSU brings a market -- as identified by the writer in the article.

Using his own criteria, I pointed out how he could add 2 states to the power conferences and gain the San Diego market. The article was just plain bad.

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5 minutes ago, HighNTight_SD said:

LoL ... SDSU brings a market -- as identified by the writer in the article.

Using his own criteria, I pointed out how he could add 2 states to the power conferences and gain the San Diego market. The article was just plain bad.

the money that the pac shares with sdsu will just be an expense.that would be a bad business decision.

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3 minutes ago, kalua pig said:

the money that the pac shares with sdsu will just be an expense.that would be a bad business decision.

Might double the PAC CCG ratings in SD county though..super worth it. Especially if Fox Sports becomes their primary TV partner. 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, kalua pig said:

the money that the pac shares with sdsu will just be an expense.that would be a bad business decision.

the money that the Pac shares with any teams outside of the first 10 was already a bad business decision ... adding UNLV, UH & BSU would not change that.

Adding SDSU and the San Diego market would be a better business decision for the Pac than adding both Boise St and Hawaii.

Getting the B12 to 16 by adding CSU, BYU & BSU would get them more than adding Tulane, Rice & SMU

Getting the P12 to 16 by adding UH, UNLV & SDSU would be better for the them than not adding SDSU ... it is basic ecomomics

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13 minutes ago, HighNTight_SD said:

LoL ... SDSU brings a market -- as identified by the writer in the article.

Using his own criteria, I pointed out how he could add 2 states to the power conferences and gain the San Diego market. The article was just plain bad.

No, they don't. No matter how many times you bring up the one time TV rating of some SDSU football game compared to a PAC12 game. It doesn't change the fact the PAC12 owns the entire state of California. 

There is a clear reason why The Mtn never reached any cable companies in San Diego. TV doesn't give a shit about SDSU. All while The Mtn went live on day one in the states of Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Colorado, and Wyoming. 

Another reason why SDSU doesn't bring or penetrate the SD market is their low attendance average for football games. 2nd largest market in MWC with a nice string of winning seasons yet SDSU can't even break 40K in attendance. 

SDSU is the 5th choice in that state. As a P5 candidate. You're done. No P5 conference wants that. They want a school that can bring their entire market or better yet. The entire state. Only 3 schools in the MWC bring that. UNM, CSU and Hawaii. 

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6 minutes ago, Loboblast said:

No, they don't. No matter how many times you bring up the one time TV rating of some SDSU football game compared to a PAC12 game. It doesn't change the fact the PAC12 owns the entire state of California. 

There is a clear reason why The Mtn never reached any cable companies in San Diego. TV doesn't give a shit about SDSU. All while The Mtn went live on day one in the states of Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Colorado, and Wyoming. 

Another reason why SDSU doesn't bring or penetrate the SD market is their low attendance average for football games. 2nd largest market in MWC with a nice string of winning seasons yet SDSU can't even break 40K in attendance. 

SDSU is the 5th choice in that state. As a P5 candidate. You're done. No P5 conference wants that. They want a school that can bring their entire market or better yet. The entire state. Only 3 schools in the MWC bring that. UNM, CSU and Hawaii. 

You're a moron

Because the PAC CCG and MW CCG last year weren't just some game, they were played on the same day with KO only 30 minutes apart and USC and Stanford played in the game and San Diegans still chose to watch SDSU v AFA (which honestly is a fawkin shocker). But they did, so just because you're ignorant of the fact doesn't discount that reality.

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, AztecSU said:

You're a moron

I don't know the dynamic in So Cal like you blessed San Diegans do, but it seems to me if SDSU was as big a draw as claimed here, attendance to the actualgames would be better. I know attendance is slipping nationwide, but SDSU has never had great attendance. Please educate me where I'm wrong. 

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1 minute ago, Loboblast said:

No, they don't. No matter how many times you bring up the one time TV rating of some SDSU football game compared to a PAC12 game. It doesn't change the fact the PAC12 owns the entire state of California. 

There is a clear reason why The Mtn never reached any cable companies in San Diego. TV doesn't give a shit about SDSU. All while The Mtn went live on day one in the states of Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Colorado, and Wyoming. 

Another reason why SDSU doesn't bring or penetrate the SD market is their low attendance average for football games. 2nd largest market in MWC with a nice string of winning seasons yet SDSU can't even break 40K in attendance. 

SDSU is the 5th choice in that state. As a P5 candidate. You're done. No P5 conference wants that. They want a school that can bring their entire market or better yet. The entire state. Only 3 schools in the MWC bring that. UNM, CSU and Hawaii. 

careful ... your ignorance is showing (again)

You have again demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of the difference between game attendance and network viewersip. Why are UNM games seldom picked up by either CBS or ESPN? Why is SDSU the backbone of the MWC CBSsn contract?

CA is the most populous state in the nation with 3 of the largest cities/markets in the country. We are not some small state with a single market like New Mexico. 

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1 minute ago, Loboblast said:

You're a "CITY" State. That doesn't say much about you either. Don't let facts get in your way. 

Your "state" has fewer people who are much more poor..what's your point? 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, madmartigan said:

I don't know the dynamic in So Cal like you blessed San Diegans do, but it seems to me if SDSU was as big a draw as claimed here, attendance to the actualgames would be better. I know attendance is slipping nationwide, but SDSU has never had great attendance. Please educate me where I'm wrong. 

Lol, we still place in like the top 5 among G5 schools. Also, the fact that the MW CCG did better than the PAC CCG but not many people actually came to the game confirms what many San Diegans already know. The new MW/WAC has significantly harmed fan interest. We're playing better now than we have in just about 2 generations, but interest is fairly low...while BB interest is high. That tells me fans don't think much of our schedule (8 MW games a year, non against Boise) and they also know now that winning the MW gets you a mid-level bowl. 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, AztecSU said:

You're a moron

Because the PAC CCG and MW CCG last year weren't just some game, they were played on the same day with KO only 30 minutes apart and USC and Stanford played in the game and San Diegans still chose to watch SDSU v AFA (which honestly is a fawkin shocker). But they did, so just because you're ignorant of the fact doesn't discount that reality.

If SDSU brings their market. Please enlighten us all why The Mtn never saw the light of day in SD on any cable subscribers? 

Why is that?

The Mtn was on air for 6 years! Yet, you're only argument is one football game last year? 

You're the moron. Actually you're a "CITY" State moron. Which is much worse. lol 

 

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3 minutes ago, Loboblast said:

If SDSU brings their market. Please enlighten us all why The Mtn never saw the light of day in SD on any cable subscribers? 

Why is that?

The Mtn was on air for 6 years! Yet, you're only argument is one football game last year? 

You're the moron. Actually you're a "CITY" State moron. Which is much worse. lol 

 

Why don't the P5 have all of their networks available everywhere already? You are showing how little you really know now. 

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, madmartigan said:

I don't know the dynamic in So Cal like you blessed San Diegans do, but it seems to me if SDSU was as big a draw as claimed here, attendance to the actualgames would be better. I know attendance is slipping nationwide, but SDSU has never had great attendance. Please educate me where I'm wrong. 

MWC top teams by attendance:

BSU: 33,611 avg -- 201,669 total

SDSU: 29,065 avg -- 203,459 total

FSU: 29,063 avg -- 174,217 total

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Mountain_West_Conference_football_season

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