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Which team should be kicked out of the MWC....

Who is closer to being a D-2 program  

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  1. 1. Who gets the boot with San Jose St?



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.....and replaced by Houston & UTEP?

 

 

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UTEP?  Ick.  Pass.

I'd say drop Hawaii and add Houston.  Nothing else to really do, unless a better TV contract is available.  Or P5 schools want to join (and raise the value of our TV contract).

Sorry, 'Bow.  You guys should go indy. 

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Where's none of the above?

thelawlorfaithful, on 31 Dec 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:One of the rules I live by: never underestimate a man in a dandy looking sweater

 

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Where's none of the above?

​Those are the only reasonable choices. Schools with low attendance during winning seasons.

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If everyone is committed to funding football properly, no one deserves the boot.  Attendance problems or otherwise.

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If everyone is committed to funding football properly, no one deserves the boot.  Attendance problems or otherwise.

​Fan support is the biggest factor to funding football properly.

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Why is Hawaii not an option??? haha

we could drop 1.5 members and go back to a 10 member conference

​That would look real good for the MWC to drop the school with the most fan support, makes 2.3 million annually (don't matter what our record is the money will always be there) for the conference and supports low budget MWC schools by paying for their travel.

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Where is San Jose in this poll? 

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​That would look real good for the MWC to drop the school with the most fan support, makes 2.3 million annually (don't matter what our record is the money will always be there) for the conference and supports low budget MWC schools by paying for their travel.

​meh ... sacrifices must be made, we could drop all the fuss with travel subs and split revenues 10 ways -- round robin football schedules for that "one true champion" that the B12 likes to boast

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Where is San Jose in this poll?

​Read the poll question.  (with San Jose St).

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​meh ... sacrifices must be made, we could drop all the fuss with travel subs and split revenues 10 ways -- round robin football schedules for that "one true champion" that the B12 likes to boast

​And be prepared to have the Sun Belt pass you up.

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​why? is that where SJSU and UH end up joining --  I'm shaking in my boots

SJSU, UH, Idaho, New Mexico State all in the Sun Belt.  That works.

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Houston agrees to this why? And why would we want utep?

​They heard about the TV bonus money and wants in now.

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​Those are the only reasonable choices. Schools with low attendance during winning seasons.

​Where's the "Don't be so butt hurt, Warbow" choice? 

Bad attendance in winning years as the criteria? Actually, our attendance and season tix have been going up with .500 years, and will certainly go up in future winning years. 

You know very well that our attendance was bad under Groth because she wouldn't count right or even count everyone there. You even agreed with that a few years back when you were at a H game in Reno and you said there were way more people there than was reported. 

One other thing to remember. Let's say that next year Hawaii has their first 3 of 4 games at home. 1st game is FCS, attendance is light. As expected, H Wins. 2nd game, H travels to North Texas and barely wins. Third game, H comes home and plays a #3 Oregon. With 2 wins against an FCS school and North Texas, many stay away from the anticipated blow out. H gets blown out. 4th game (3rd at home) H plays #17 Boise at home. Many stay away again expecting a blow out. But Hawaii pulls the upset!!!!!! 

Hawaii hits the road for 3 straight weeks on the road and beats AF, Utah St. and SDSU. So it's week 8, Hawaii is 6-1 with a #17 win, solid wins over 3 tough MWC schools on the road, and H is getting a decent amount of Top 25 votes.

Returning home, the 8th game of the season against SJSU will draw solid numbers. 

My point is.....if you have a surprise winning year and you're normally not that great, you can play half your low attended home games until the fans can see that it's going to be a big winning season. So the 1st 3 home games are going kill the season average even if the last 3 home games draw big crowds. 

The same kind of thing happened to us in 2010 when we finished #11. After the 2009 season let down, lots and lots of people wanted Groth to fire Ault and start with new younger blood. So the surprise 2010 season coupled with Groth not counting to begin with led to disappointing numbers for such a big season. 

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