business discrimination, nutjob Christians, and fabulous gays...

[bluerules009]

This is just another example of government futility.  This cannot be legislated.

 

You are creating a law to protect one class and it attacks another class.  Government is at that point deciding which class is more important.  Nazis were famous for doing the same thing.

 

 

The free market system would take care of this.  If there is an idiot flower seller/cake baker that doesn't want to sell to gays there will be another one happy to have the business.   If I was in the cake baking business in Idaho I would hand out a gay marriage coupon.

 

If you don't like the government in Idaho move to California.

 

Leave the impotent government out of the situation.     

 

 

It still boggles my mind to begin with why anyone would care if two gays wanted to get married.  It certainly doesn't effect anyone else unless you're jealous.

[HR_Poke]

If I owned a retail business I would prefer not to serve people who bring in their dogs. But at least in SD it's becoming so freaking prevalent I probably would have to serve them to stay in business.

I freakin hate that crap.  I go to home depot or lowes and there are life 5 dogs roaming around in there.  I've seen them pee on stuff.  My father in law does it with his french bull dog too and it drive me nuts.  And I'm even a dog owner.  I don't take my dogs to petco either.

[Jwherb]

The government should be involved with equal protection of the law?

 

Thankfully, here in reality things work differently than how you understand and believe them to in your mind. 

[Jwherb]

I'm a dog owner and lover; I don't think dogs belong in retail stores or restaurants.  

 

Freedom to own dogs includes freedom FROM dogs.  Or something like that. 

[THEUniversityofNevada]

I think that's in the constitution. Along with peanut free schools.

 

I'm a dog owner and lover; I don't think dogs belong in retail stores or restaurants.  

 

Freedom to own dogs includes freedom FROM dogs.  Or something like that. 

[bluerules009]

The government should be involved with equal protection of the law?

 

Thankfully, here in reality things work differently than how you understand and believe them to in your mind. 

 

They aren't providing equal protection under the law.  They are choosing winners and losers.

 

You aren't even smart enough to observe the results.

 

This isn't about voting rights or public schools or separate but equal, it has no government component, so your comparison to the civil rights era is ridiculous.

 

This is about religious people who have a right under the constitution to practice their religion no matter how ignorant.   Versus gay people who want to impose their value system on others.   If this was about pedifiles instead of gays you would support the religious people.   Even though it is exactly the same issue.

[CPslograd]

I think that's in the constitution. Along with peanut free schools.

 

Yah, that no peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for your kid's lunch at school thing pisses me off.

 

How bout this, if you have a kid who is allergic to peanut butter, then tell your damn kid not to try to eat my damn kids sandwich!  Why the hell is it my problem if your jacked up kid is allergic to freaking peanut butter?

[happycamper]

I freakin hate that crap.  I go to home depot or lowes and there are life 5 dogs roaming around in there.  I've seen them pee on stuff.  My father in law does it with his french bull dog too and it drive me nuts.  And I'm even a dog owner.  I don't take my dogs to petco either.

And it isn't even Home Depot policy that you can bring your dog. People just do.

[THEUniversityofNevada]

While we're entertaining thought experiments, would Indiana's RFRA allow a Muslim business owner to refuse service to an unaccompanied female? Or a female without proper head covering?

 

Or, predictably, would it allow someone to form a First Church of Cannibis that demanded the government not infringe on their deeply held religious beliefs that smoking ganja in public is illegal.

[HR_Poke]

And it isn't even Home Depot policy that you can bring your dog. People just do.

I don't know if it's company policy, but I have see signs that say no pets except service animals when you walk in.  Clearly no one enforces it. 

[THEUniversityofNevada]

It's a store by store policy. My father-in-law works for Home Depot. Some specifically welcome all dogs, some only welcome service dogs.

 

I don't know if it's company policy, but I have see signs that say no pets except service animals when you walk in.  Clearly no one enforces it. 

[CPslograd]

It's a store by store policy. My father-in-law works for Home Depot. Some specifically welcome all dogs, some only welcome service dogs.

 

Which brings us full circle.

 

If you are  an anti semite and own a store in an orthodox jewish neighborhood, you don't have to refuse service to Jews and deal with that legal hassle, just let people bring in their dogs.  Problem solved!

[pokebball]

Those little clean up after your doggie bags are awesome, though. 

[mugtang]

I don't care if gays get married. What I want to know is when do the gay divorces start? That will be great television.

[mugtang]

And I'll just leave you with this:

[FSpoopypants]

And I'll just leave you with this:

 

I'll just go to the liquor store across the street.

[babs]

If I'm a Christian photographer and am forced to photograph a gay wedding, what are the repercussions if every picture is out of focus and the happy day memories are ruined?

Is that then a hate crime?

 

I think its a lot harder, if you run a brick and mortar business open to the public, to turn customers away based on sexual orientation. There are ways for people, who offer contracted services, to turn business down much more discreetly. 

[mugtang]

I think its a lot harder, if you run a brick and mortar business open to the public, to turn customers away based on sexual orientation. There are ways for people, who offer contracted services, to turn business down much more discreetly.

Say "I'm sorry but I appear to be unavailable at that time" or "I'm not taking on any new clients right now".

[babs]

Say "I'm sorry but I appear to be unavailable at that time" or "I'm not taking on any new clients right now".

 

Exactly. Or give a very high quote.

 

 

 

 

Now, if you own a brick and mortar, you're obligated to serve the public. Not pick and choose who you want to serve. You knew that when you went into business. If you can't handle that, maybe you shouldn't be in business. 

 

Call the above entitlement, if you want. But the entitlement argument can go both ways in such cases.

[THEUniversityofNevada]

Then they secret shop you with their straight friend for the same date and BOOYA! Pay dirt! Better call Saul! 

 

Say "I'm sorry but I appear to be unavailable at that time" or "I'm not taking on any new clients right now".