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Texas gets almost as much from the LHN than Oregon got form the PAC 12 in fiscal year 2013.......and the Big 12 pays more than the PAC 12 does as well by about 2 million per year

 

the Big 12 and the SEC will split 80 million per year (4 million per team in the Big 12) starting in 2015 for the Sugar Bowl while the PAC 12 numbers already include their similar Rose Bowl payments and starting next year when the playoffs pay 50 million per major conference that is 5 million per Big 12 team and only 4.16 million per PAC 12 team

 

so lets do the numbers Oregon got 18.63 million from the PAC 12 while Texas got 15 million for the LHN alone, Texas got 20.8 from the Big 12 for a total of 35.8 million and Texas will get 5 million starting next year while Oregon will get 4.16 and Texas will get 4 million in 2015 while Oregon will get no additional money

 

so starting next year Texas will be at 40.8 million while Oregon will be at 22.79 and by 2015 Texas will be at 39.8 million while Oregon will still be at 22.79

 

the PAC 12 network loses money currently and they struggle for carriage deals while Texas gets paid for the LHN no matter what

 

the Big 12 gets more basketball teams into the NCAAs consistently and those teams go much deeper for more credits both mens and womens

 

there is no denying the starting times of games for the west coast

 

so again Texas has a huge advantage financially in the Big 12 and the PAC would actually have to find a way for the PAC 12 network to gain carriage and make a profit to even come close and even then the PAC 12 would need to have higher payouts from cable companies than the Big 10 by a significant margin for the PAC 12 network to pay close to what Texas makes in the Big 12 and the PAC 12 network is not going to outsell the Big 19 network period

 

 

And they still can't afford a decent coach.

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Texas gets almost as much from the LHN than Oregon got form the PAC 12 in fiscal year 2013.......and the Big 12 pays more than the PAC 12 does as well by about 2 million per year

the Big 12 and the SEC will split 80 million per year (4 million per team in the Big 12) starting in 2015 for the Sugar Bowl while the PAC 12 numbers already include their similar Rose Bowl payments and starting next year when the playoffs pay 50 million per major conference that is 5 million per Big 12 team and only 4.16 million per PAC 12 team

so lets do the numbers Oregon got 18.63 million from the PAC 12 while Texas got 15 million for the LHN alone, Texas got 20.8 from the Big 12 for a total of 35.8 million and Texas will get 5 million starting next year while Oregon will get 4.16 and Texas will get 4 million in 2015 while Oregon will get no additional money

so starting next year Texas will be at 40.8 million while Oregon will be at 22.79 and by 2015 Texas will be at 39.8 million while Oregon will still be at 22.79

the PAC 12 network loses money currently and they struggle for carriage deals while Texas gets paid for the LHN no matter what

the Big 12 gets more basketball teams into the NCAAs consistently and those teams go much deeper for more credits both mens and womens

there is no denying the starting times of games for the west coast

so again Texas has a huge advantage financially in the Big 12 and the PAC would actually have to find a way for the PAC 12 network to gain carriage and make a profit to even come close and even then the PAC 12 would need to have higher payouts from cable companies than the Big 10 by a significant margin for the PAC 12 network to pay close to what Texas makes in the Big 12 and the PAC 12 network is not going to outsell the Big 19 network period

This is actually incorrect. Please do your research.

The Rose and Sugar contracts which are identical have not started for anyone yet. No one.

The Pac12 Net turned a profit in its first year.

In total the TV deals for both conferences will net each school the same amount, when all is said and done.

Texas does make more money than any other school but that is in spite of the B12 not because of it.

The only benefit Texas has in the B12 is the ability to carry TLHN. That's it.

Without UT, the PAC would be just fine. With out UT, the B12 would be the ACC 2.0 (with lower end schools).

Again, UT makes money because it is UT, not because of the B12.

If UT were to join the PAC, the TV deal would be restructured, that's how it was negotiated. Texas playing in LA, SF, Seattle etc is worth much, much more than whatever towns it road trips to in conference. In other words, the TV deal would be worth even more.

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here is the revenue by program for 2011-2012 so more than just Texas does fine in the Big 12 in spite of not being in the PAC

 

what interest does Texas have in abandoning teams their fans like to see that are an easy drive in the middle of where Texas recruits to play a bunch of teams that no one wants to see Texas play and to play them at midnight and to have to share revenue with a bunch of teams that don't pull their own weight even in a large media market

 

and some of these numbers will be going up for the Big 12 because WVU is signing a new very large third tier deal and some of the other Big 12 schools are signing third tier deals for several million as well that are not in these numbers

 

5 of the Big 12 teams (half the conference) are above 75% of the PAC "in spite of" the Big 12 and the lowest team in the Big 12 is still above 25% of the PAC teams

 

the PAC has nothing to offer Texas or OU or anyone but MWC or AAC teams at this point unless they are willing to take less tha that 

 

Texas 1 $163.3 million

OU 8 $106.5 million

OkState 20 $84.1 million

WVU 27 $80.0 million

Kansas 28 $79.2 million

TCU 40 $68.1 million

Baylor 41 $67.8 million

KSU 49 $63.6 million

Tech 55 $59.6 million

ISU 60 $55.2 million



Stanford 16 $89.1 million

USC 21 $84.1 million

WU 23 $82.6 million

AU 33 $76.0 million

Oregon 34 $73.9 million

Cal 37 $71.2 million

UCLA 38 $70.7 million

ASU 47 $63.8 million

CU 57 $57.1 million

OSU 62 $53.8 million

WSU 65 $48.0 million

Utah 66 $46.2 million

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Texas gets almost as much from the LHN than Oregon got form the PAC 12 in fiscal year 2013.......and the Big 12 pays more than the PAC 12 does as well by about 2 million per year

the Big 12 and the SEC will split 80 million per year (4 million per team in the Big 12) starting in 2015 for the Sugar Bowl while the PAC 12 numbers already include their similar Rose Bowl payments and starting next year when the playoffs pay 50 million per major conference that is 5 million per Big 12 team and only 4.16 million per PAC 12 team

so lets do the numbers Oregon got 18.63 million from the PAC 12 while Texas got 15 million for the LHN alone, Texas got 20.8 from the Big 12 for a total of 35.8 million and Texas will get 5 million starting next year while Oregon will get 4.16 and Texas will get 4 million in 2015 while Oregon will get no additional money

so starting next year Texas will be at 40.8 million while Oregon will be at 22.79 and by 2015 Texas will be at 39.8 million while Oregon will still be at 22.79

the PAC 12 network loses money currently and they struggle for carriage deals while Texas gets paid for the LHN no matter what

the Big 12 gets more basketball teams into the NCAAs consistently and those teams go much deeper for more credits both mens and womens

there is no denying the starting times of games for the west coast

so again Texas has a huge advantage financially in the Big 12 and the PAC would actually have to find a way for the PAC 12 network to gain carriage and make a profit to even come close and even then the PAC 12 would need to have higher payouts from cable companies than the Big 10 by a significant margin for the PAC 12 network to pay close to what Texas makes in the Big 12 and the PAC 12 network is not going to outsell the Big 19 network period

More rambling, yet you are still wrong.

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If Warbow and friends want to go delusional, might as well go big and say that the NFL wants an expansion team in Hawaii. And then that creates a bidding war between the NFL and the PAC. The PAC offers them special terms better than any other PAC school. And that allows them to build a stadium better than Jerry's World and results in the best attendance of any school in cfb.

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If Warbow and friends want to go delusional, might as well go big and say that the NFL wants an expansion team in Hawaii. And then that creates a bidding war between the NFL and the PAC. The PAC offers them special terms better than any other PAC school. And that allows them to build a stadium better than Jerry's World and results in the best attendance of any school in cfb.

So the rumor is true then?

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here is the revenue by program for 2011-2012 so more than just Texas does fine in the Big 12 in spite of not being in the PAC

what interest does Texas have in abandoning teams their fans like to see that are an easy drive in the middle of where Texas recruits to play a bunch of teams that no one wants to see Texas play and to play them at midnight and to have to share revenue with a bunch of teams that don't pull their own weight even in a large media market

and some of these numbers will be going up for the Big 12 because WVU is signing a new very large third tier deal and some of the other Big 12 schools are signing third tier deals for several million as well that are not in these numbers

5 of the Big 12 teams (half the conference) are above 75% of the PAC "in spite of" the Big 12 and the lowest team in the Big 12 is still above 25% of the PAC teams

the PAC has nothing to offer Texas or OU or anyone but MWC or AAC teams at this point unless they are willing to take less tha that

Texas 1 $163.3 million

OU 8 $106.5 million

OkState 20 $84.1 million

WVU 27 $80.0 million

Kansas 28 $79.2 million

TCU 40 $68.1 million

Baylor 41 $67.8 million

KSU 49 $63.6 million

Tech 55 $59.6 million

ISU 60 $55.2 million

Stanford 16 $89.1 million

USC 21 $84.1 million

WU 23 $82.6 million

AU 33 $76.0 million

Oregon 34 $73.9 million

Cal 37 $71.2 million

UCLA 38 $70.7 million

ASU 47 $63.8 million

CU 57 $57.1 million

OSU 62 $53.8 million

WSU 65 $48.0 million

Utah 66 $46.2 million

You're using Pac #s before their new deal actually kicks in. Again, do your research. You are wrong yet again. Factually incorrect with every post you make. I'll assume now you're not actually an UT fan.

Outside of Texas, the highest concentration of UT alumni is ............ On the west coast.

Again, without UT those numbers you posted plummet for the rest of those b12 schools, by alot. Without UT those numbers you posted are already guaranteed to go up regardless starting next fiscal year for the Pac, by a lot.

It's not the B12, it's Texas.

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You're using Pac #s before their new deal actually kicks in. Again, do your research. You are wrong yet again. Factually incorrect with every post you make. I'll assume now you're not actually an UT fan.

Outside of Texas, the highest concentration of UT alumni is ............ On the west coast.

Again, without UT those numbers you posted plummet for the rest of those b12 schools, by alot. Without UT those numbers you posted are already guaranteed to go up regardless starting next fiscal year for the Pac, by a lot.

It's not the B12, it's Texas.

 

 

and what you are forgetting is the Big 12 signed new TV rights deals at the same time

 

the ones that just paid Big 12 teams 20.8 million per year while the PAC teams collected the 18.63 per year listed by Oregon

 

and the Big 12 teams also have their third tier deals that have been signed since the above numbers

 

so the Big 12 teams were ahead before new media deals that are more lucritive for the Big 12 as shown by the 20.8 million payout VS 18.63 and the Big 12 third tier deals per individual school

 

and as for the comment about it is not the Big 12 it is Texas......that is an exact part of the issue Texas brings the money and moving to the PAC only offers Texas the chance to play games at much crappier times and to reduce their overall revenue while sharing more of it with the lower end PAC teams that bring nothing......that is not a good deal for Texas and thus the reason Texas is not going to the PAC.......because bringing your financial strength to a conference so you can take less revenue and give more to others is not a smart move especially when it comes with crappy game times and lost of teams no one wants to see you play and most of your fans will never go to

 

again Texas makes 15 million per year just from the LHN while the PAC 12 teams are making 18.63 million from all their tiers combined and their NCAA money so there is nothing the PAC offers Texas

 

and Texas and the Big 12 have made it clear they prefer an east coast presence hince the switching of bowl games

 

and the former AD of Stanford is now the comissioner of the Big 12.....he was one of the most successful ADs that Stanford has had in a long time as far as football hires and fundraising and he still left that job where he was on easy street and locked in and came to the Big 12 to run the Big 12......he would not have done that if he even remotely thought that Texas was going to leave and the conference would fold and or becomes second tier.....he is one of the most successful and respected ADs out there and he would have easily known if Texas was even considering leaving the Big 12 anytime soon or had even talked to he PAC......and he came to run the Big 12 so he knows Texas is in for the long haul 

 

Colorado is still broke in the PAC there was a recent article about that and even with the new money (that was not what was expected) they are still broke......there is no recruiting for Texas in the PAC......poor game times in poor locations.....mostly teams no one wants to see Texas play or teams Texas can schedule in the OOC

 

the entire reason Oregon started that truth of money website is because some clowns out there refuse to believe the reality and buy into the hype.....the reality is Texas makes nearly as much from their third tier rights @15 million than the PAC teams make for all three tiers and NCAA distributions so there is nothing the PAC offers Texas period.....no new money, worse schedules, worse game times and teams no one cares about and even the former AD of stanford knows this or he would still be at Stanford instead of settled into running the Big 12 (with Texas) for a long time

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and what you are forgetting is the Big 12 signed new TV rights deals at the same time

the ones that just paid Big 12 teams 20.8 million per year while the PAC teams collected the 18.63 per year listed by Oregon

and the Big 12 teams also have their third tier deals that have been signed since the above numbers

so the Big 12 teams were ahead before new media deals that are more lucritive for the Big 12 as shown by the 20.8 million payout VS 18.63 and the Big 12 third tier deals per individual school

and as for the comment about it is not the Big 12 it is Texas......that is an exact part of the issue Texas brings the money and moving to the PAC only offers Texas the chance to play games at much crappier times and to reduce their overall revenue while sharing more of it with the lower end PAC teams that bring nothing......that is not a good deal for Texas and thus the reason Texas is not going to the PAC.......because bringing your financial strength to a conference so you can take less revenue and give more to others is not a smart move especially when it comes with crappy game times and lost of teams no one wants to see you play and most of your fans will never go to

again Texas makes 15 million per year just from the LHN while the PAC 12 teams are making 18.63 million from all their tiers combined and their NCAA money so there is nothing the PAC offers Texas

and Texas and the Big 12 have made it clear they prefer an east coast presence hince the switching of bowl games

and the former AD of Stanford is now the comissioner of the Big 12.....he was one of the most successful ADs that Stanford has had in a long time as far as football hires and fundraising and he still left that job where he was on easy street and locked in and came to the Big 12 to run the Big 12......he would not have done that if he even remotely thought that Texas was going to leave and the conference would fold and or becomes second tier.....he is one of the most successful and respected ADs out there and he would have easily known if Texas was even considering leaving the Big 12 anytime soon or had even talked to he PAC......and he came to run the Big 12 so he knows Texas is in for the long haul

Colorado is still broke in the PAC there was a recent article about that and even with the new money (that was not what was expected) they are still broke......there is no recruiting for Texas in the PAC......poor game times in poor locations.....mostly teams no one wants to see Texas play or teams Texas can schedule in the OOC

the entire reason Oregon started that truth of money website is because some clowns out there refuse to believe the reality and buy into the hype.....the reality is Texas makes nearly as much from their third tier rights @15 million than the PAC teams make for all three tiers and NCAA distributions so there is nothing the PAC offers Texas period.....no new money, worse schedules, worse game times and teams no one cares about and even the former AD of stanford knows this or he would still be at Stanford instead of settled into running the Big 12 (with Texas) for a long time

And still wrong.

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and what you are forgetting is the Big 12 signed new TV rights deals at the same time

 

the ones that just paid Big 12 teams 20.8 million per year while the PAC teams collected the 18.63 per year listed by Oregon

 

and the Big 12 teams also have their third tier deals that have been signed since the above numbers

 

so the Big 12 teams were ahead before new media deals that are more lucritive for the Big 12 as shown by the 20.8 million payout VS 18.63 and the Big 12 third tier deals per individual school

 

and as for the comment about it is not the Big 12 it is Texas......that is an exact part of the issue Texas brings the money and moving to the PAC only offers Texas the chance to play games at much crappier times and to reduce their overall revenue while sharing more of it with the lower end PAC teams that bring nothing......that is not a good deal for Texas and thus the reason Texas is not going to the PAC.......because bringing your financial strength to a conference so you can take less revenue and give more to others is not a smart move especially when it comes with crappy game times and lost of teams no one wants to see you play and most of your fans will never go to

 

again Texas makes 15 million per year just from the LHN while the PAC 12 teams are making 18.63 million from all their tiers combined and their NCAA money so there is nothing the PAC offers Texas

 

and Texas and the Big 12 have made it clear they prefer an east coast presence hince the switching of bowl games

 

and the former AD of Stanford is now the comissioner of the Big 12.....he was one of the most successful ADs that Stanford has had in a long time as far as football hires and fundraising and he still left that job where he was on easy street and locked in and came to the Big 12 to run the Big 12......he would not have done that if he even remotely thought that Texas was going to leave and the conference would fold and or becomes second tier.....he is one of the most successful and respected ADs out there and he would have easily known if Texas was even considering leaving the Big 12 anytime soon or had even talked to he PAC......and he came to run the Big 12 so he knows Texas is in for the long haul 

 

Colorado is still broke in the PAC there was a recent article about that and even with the new money (that was not what was expected) they are still broke......there is no recruiting for Texas in the PAC......poor game times in poor locations.....mostly teams no one wants to see Texas play or teams Texas can schedule in the OOC

 

the entire reason Oregon started that truth of money website is because some clowns out there refuse to believe the reality and buy into the hype.....the reality is Texas makes nearly as much from their third tier rights @15 million than the PAC teams make for all three tiers and NCAA distributions so there is nothing the PAC offers Texas period.....no new money, worse schedules, worse game times and teams no one cares about and even the former AD of stanford knows this or he would still be at Stanford instead of settled into running the Big 12 (with Texas) for a long time

 

There may be a good post in here somewhere... but on Friday night?  Someone pour... Someone... a drink!

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How's the PAC12 Network performing in Hawai'i?  That will give y'all some indication....

 

...maybe it's stuck in the premium section of things like it is here, degrading ratings.  They should open that thing up more.  I really liked it when it was freebie/inclusive at debut time. 

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and what you are forgetting is the Big 12 signed new TV rights deals at the same time

the ones that just paid Big 12 teams 20.8 million per year while the PAC teams collected the 18.63 per year listed by Oregon

and the Big 12 teams also have their third tier deals that have been signed since the above numbers

so the Big 12 teams were ahead before new media deals that are more lucritive for the Big 12 as shown by the 20.8 million payout VS 18.63 and the Big 12 third tier deals per individual school

and as for the comment about it is not the Big 12 it is Texas......that is an exact part of the issue Texas brings the money and moving to the PAC only offers Texas the chance to play games at much crappier times and to reduce their overall revenue while sharing more of it with the lower end PAC teams that bring nothing......that is not a good deal for Texas and thus the reason Texas is not going to the PAC.......because bringing your financial strength to a conference so you can take less revenue and give more to others is not a smart move especially when it comes with crappy game times and lost of teams no one wants to see you play and most of your fans will never go to

again Texas makes 15 million per year just from the LHN while the PAC 12 teams are making 18.63 million from all their tiers combined and their NCAA money so there is nothing the PAC offers Texas

and Texas and the Big 12 have made it clear they prefer an east coast presence hince the switching of bowl games

and the former AD of Stanford is now the comissioner of the Big 12.....he was one of the most successful ADs that Stanford has had in a long time as far as football hires and fundraising and he still left that job where he was on easy street and locked in and came to the Big 12 to run the Big 12......he would not have done that if he even remotely thought that Texas was going to leave and the conference would fold and or becomes second tier.....he is one of the most successful and respected ADs out there and he would have easily known if Texas was even considering leaving the Big 12 anytime soon or had even talked to he PAC......and he came to run the Big 12 so he knows Texas is in for the long haul

Colorado is still broke in the PAC there was a recent article about that and even with the new money (that was not what was expected) they are still broke......there is no recruiting for Texas in the PAC......poor game times in poor locations.....mostly teams no one wants to see Texas play or teams Texas can schedule in the OOC

the entire reason Oregon started that truth of money website is because some clowns out there refuse to believe the reality and buy into the hype.....the reality is Texas makes nearly as much from their third tier rights @15 million than the PAC teams make for all three tiers and NCAA distributions so there is nothing the PAC offers Texas period.....no new money, worse schedules, worse game times and teams no one cares about and even the former AD of stanford knows this or he would still be at Stanford instead of settled into running the Big 12 (with Texas) for a long time

The Oregon website was wrong and already debunked. Check out Jon Wilners piece on how the money will break down. But the fact that you're going off some site which was filled with factual errors makes sense. And Bowksby left because people take promotions. Welcome to life.
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