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The reason for Beth Burns' "retirement" from SDSU

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She's always handled herself with class...those two "hits" were not "battery"...not even close IMO...

It's a very unfortunate set of circumstances for Beth Burns...it's not fair...that assistant coach, Adam Barrett, who brought these to light and got a quarter mil for it...you should've just rolled with it and you shouldn't have been such a gurly man and complained...that's embarrassing for you my man!

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Wow. Just wow. If that's her best shot, she could get taken out by a six year old.

Was that a serious post? Was that really considered hitting?

What's next, a pat on the butt by a teammate, after a home run, is battery? Or sex abuse?

I really hope that I just fell for a prank.

Yoda out...

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After deleting some of my posts and closing the offending SteveAztec thread, a couple of elites have been able to open it long enough to respond to me anyway.  And since I can’t respond on a closed thread, here is my response…

Other than the initial inquiry, this has never been about letting Steve post again; I doubt that he even wants to post here.  My complaint is about his treatment on this board and the failure of admins to control attacks on him – and worse, to sometimes participate in those attacks.

Steve was first banned on the SDSU board.  When he was banned, it was a sufficiently controversial that they started what became an 8 page thread on the topic to justify the decision (https://aztecmesa.proboards.com/thread/9747/steve-aztec-longer-member-board).  It is clear that Steve had support in the community and there was some criticism for the Board Administrators for having failed to “expel the dozens of people who've been taunting him.”  (And take a look at the thread that I bumped; initially it was supporters happy about Steve getting a radio show.  Then the haters arrived.)

I can’t say if Steve took it too far in response, but I will say that he denies most of various accusations and adds important missing context to others.  But I wasn’t a party to any of the events and can’t say who is in the right and who is in the wrong.  And I have to admit that if half of what has been said about him is true, depending on context, I might well have banned him too.  Or more likely I might have banned those who were taunting him.  (Steve had lost a brother-in-law to suicide and there have been a number of memes of people blowing their brains out, as well as posts blaming Steve or his sister for the suicide – and admins apparently let it go.)

I am in no position to evaluate the truth or falsity of the laundry list of claims made on this board about how Steve responded to all this.  My complaint, however, is about his treatment on this board.  I may be wrong, but his banning on this board at least appears to have been less about what he did on this board and more a carryover from the SDSU banning.  The same taunting continued – more suicide memes – apparently ignored by the admins. Utenation supposedly posted the first and it is explained away because he didn’t know about the suicide.  But was the post taken down?  Was an apology issued?   Indeed, for years, admins on this board have allowed Steve to be vilified based on little more than anecdotal hearsay.  This is a privately owned board, but it is not a private board – anyone can join.  And more than that, It’s not an anonymous board; people know who Steve.  You have a duty to protect your posters from libelous statements and unproven allegations -- especially when, having been banned themselves, they have no ability to defend themselves.

Even Retrofade (who says he’s not a mod but can post to closed threads) put up a “blowing his brains out” meme several years ago.  He knew that Steve lost his brother-in-law to suicide, and he now says that “Steve is a mentally disturbed individual”, which is libelous by the way, but excuses his meme as nothing more than being in “poor taste”.  Apparently it is okay with the board's current admins to taunt a "mentally disturbed person" because the post has never been taken down.  The poster has never been admonished.  And there has been no apology, unless you consider "he deserved it" to be an apology.

In my view, you owe Steve an apology for the treatment that you have tolerated and, in some cases, engaged in.  A former Aztec board went out of business when sued (not by Steve).  It won’t be the last one.  You need to fix this.  You need to administer your board and prevent libelous and incendiary attacks -- hearsay-- on posters. 

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She's always handled herself with class...those two "hits" were not "battery"...not even close IMO...

It's a very unfortunate set of circumstances for Beth Burns...it's not fair...that assistant coach, Adam Barrett, who brought these to light and got a quarter mil for it...you should've just rolled with it and you shouldn't have been such a gurly man and complained...that's embarrassing for you my man!

Any unwanted/offensive touching is battery. 

Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. 

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Wow. Just wow. If that's her best shot, she could get taken out by a six year old.

Was that a serious post? Was that really considered hitting?

What's next, a pat on the butt by a teammate, after a home run, is battery? Or sex abuse?

I really hope that I just fell for a prank.

Yoda out...

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Favre would have been in prison years ago then.

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She's always handled herself with class...those two "hits" were not "battery"...not even close IMO...

It's a very unfortunate set of circumstances for Beth Burns...it's not fair...that assistant coach, Adam Barrett, who brought these to light and got a quarter mil for it...you should've just rolled with it and you shouldn't have been such a gurly man and complained...that's embarrassing for you my man!

 

this certainly can't be all of it

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Its a shame for SUDS that he didn't have his big girl panties on that day.

 

I don't think it is OK to take abuse, but if that really is the extent of it...it is ridiculous to potentially cripple a program for that...not to mention make a high paying coaching job even harder for himself to attain.

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Its a shame for SUDS that he didn't have his big girl panties on that day.

 

I don't think it is OK to take abuse, but if that really is the extent of it...it is ridiculous to potentially cripple a program for that...not to mention make a high paying coaching job even harder for himself to attain.

 

What is a shame and ridiculous is everyone thinking that the extent of the "reason" was fully detailed by some FOI request that a newspaper made and basing conclusions upon that.

 

The Aztecs women's team will come out of this in great shape. We are in new hands but very good hands.

SDSU has had 5 upper half NCAA berths in a row.

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Any unwanted/offensive touching is battery. 

 

Boy just think if this took place in St Pete the assistant could have shot and killed her .... I mean his life was obviously in danger :D

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