Five years from now, will we have a Pac-12 and a Mountain West?

[Loyal Coug]

On 6/2/2024 at 1:01 PM, Raz said:

but your school will "Coug it".

Yes we will, but not against BSU. We are going to come to Boise and kick your ass in FB. Is Humping Hanna's still there for our postgame celebration?

[Beaver-Poke]

Wyoming had 11 former players make NFL opening-day rosters in 2023, including the second-best QB in the NFL. It's hardly a rag-tag outfit. 

[Raz]

On 6/2/2024 at 3:11 PM, Loyal Coug said:

Yes we will, but not against BSU. We are going to come to Boise and kick your ass in FB. Is Humping Hanna's still there for our postgame celebration?

The Cougs should humiliate any MWC team.   How has WAZZU fared versus the Huskies?  ps... I am a big Mike Leach fan, RIP! 

[Raz]

On 6/2/2024 at 3:44 PM, Beaver-Poke said:

Wyoming had 11 former players make NFL opening-day rosters in 2023, including the second-best QB in the NFL. It's hardly a rag-tag outfit. 

Josh Allen is A#1 stud superstar.  The rest?  naw

[Headbutt]

On 6/2/2024 at 1:41 PM, Raz said:

Not harsh at all but kind.  Consider this:  the MWC has New Mexico, San Jose, Nevada and Wyoming as members.  No one will ever confuse this rag-tag 3rd rate group with Notre Dame, Ohio State, USC or Alabama.  While I am a proud BSU Bronco alumnus, I am also a Foster School of Business MBA graduate.  I have tasted major college football in Seattle as well as the second-rate MWC. 

You should be proud of the great pumkin...Dee Andros.

Got it.  We're going to compare the bottom of the MWC (and only on a financial basis) with the top of college football..  You should have maybe attended more classes at Foster.  BTW, while my DNA makes me a Wyo hater, they bring far more to college athletics than some schools you failed to mention.  Sans geography, they are more attractive than most of the G5.  I only mention this to point out that the basis of your rant is fatally flawed.

[Raz]

On 6/2/2024 at 4:01 PM, Headbutt said:

Got it.  We're going to compare the bottom of the MWC (and only on a financial basis) with the top of college football..  You should have maybe attended more classes at Foster.  BTW, while my DNA makes me a Wyo hater, they bring far more to college athletics than some schools you failed to mention.  Sans geography, they are more attractive than most of the P5.  I only mention this to point out that the basis of your rant is fatally flawed.

You point is well taken.  I hold your school Wyoming in high-esteem.  The Wyoming problem is their minuscule eye-ball market-place.  BTW as a Foster graduate I need not attend any more classes unless as a guest lecturer. 

[Brew_Poke]

On 6/2/2024 at 3:01 PM, Headbutt said:

Got it.  We're going to compare the bottom of the MWC (and only on a financial basis) with the top of college football..  You should have maybe attended more classes at Foster.  BTW, while my DNA makes me a Wyo hater, they bring far more to college athletics than some schools you failed to mention.  Sans geography, they are more attractive than most of the P5.  I only mention this to point out that the basis of your rant is fatally flawed.

Wyoming is nowhere near the bottom of the MWC financially.

[Headbutt]

On 6/2/2024 at 4:04 PM, Brew_Poke said:

Wyoming is nowhere near the bottom of the MWC financially.

That's fair, I stand legitimately corrected.  My point stands though that you can't pick any teams, (especially the ones you look down on) in the MWC and create a comparison to the most well funded of the P4. 

If you want to play that game you have to put some actual comparisons together between Rutgers, Vanderbilt, etc. and the G5.  More than just a few P4 schools would wither in the G5 without the P4 coattails.

 

[utenation]

On 6/2/2024 at 1:54 PM, Loyal Coug said:

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[NevadaFan]

On 6/2/2024 at 1:55 PM, Raz said:

The Cougs should humiliate any MWC team.   How has WAZZU fared versus the Huskies?  ps... I am a big Mike Leach fan, RIP! 

We’re rag-tag and yet here you are? It’s as if you’re missing something in your personal life. Like a life? 

[Chalsean]

On 6/1/2024 at 11:58 AM, soupslam1 said:

I’ve got to think western athletes are going to get really tired of traveling east for half their games especially Stanford and Cal who will be playing the eastern seaboard schools. That’s a long round trip over a weekend. 

It would not surprise me to see a new PAC form in several years. How that will relate to the current PAC2 and the MWC is anyone’s guess. 

Still humorous to have two Cali schools in a conference called Atlantic Coast Conference.  Calford apparently doesnt teach geography

[soupslam1]

On 6/2/2024 at 1:04 PM, Beaver-Poke said:

"Second-rate" is pretty harsh. With the death of the Pac-12 it's the #5 athletic conference in country in the sports that matter (football, men's basketball). Excellent chance of a CFP berth in 2 of every 3 years. 

Not sure where SDSU and UNLV will "bolt" to, unless you think the Big 12 is going to expand even further and become even more unwieldly. I would expect most, if not all, of the Big 12 want anything to do with those schools. 

The only thing UNLV and SDSU have going for them is that they are good travel destinations. Decent markets too but no eyeballs tune into their games so TV ad value is zilch. They have never done anything of significance in football. 

[Someone Else]

More proof that fans are myopic.^^^

"They have never done anything of significance but my school has!"

I don't think UNLV or SDSU are going anywhere because there is no where for them to go... plus the landscape of college athletics is going in the entirely wrong direction for anyone not in the B1G or SEC.

that said, for many reasons, especially the populations of each of those schools locations, they have far more upside/potential than any other school in this conference.

[NevadaFan]

On 6/3/2024 at 11:11 AM, Someone Else said:

More proof that fans are myopic.^^^

"They have never done anything of significance but my school has!"

I don't think UNLV or SDSU are going anywhere because there is no where for them to go... plus the landscape of college athletics is going in the entirely wrong direction for anyone not in the B1G or SEC.

that said, for many reasons, especially the populations of each of those schools locations, they have far more upside/potential than any other school in this conference.

Here’s where the, “but population doesn’t matter unless they care” argument starts. Rinse and repeat. 

[Someone Else]

48 minutes ago, NevadaFan said:

Here’s where the, “but population doesn’t matter unless they care” argument starts. Rinse and repeat. 

True.  But it too is a subjective discussion.

[WasatchAggie]

On 6/2/2024 at 12:29 PM, Raz said:

The MWC is a high-end second-rate conference.  Home to a handful of coveted schools which will bolt.  Just a matter of time.  At the top of the desirable list are UNLV and SDSU for their geographies served.  Especially the growing Las Vegas area.  A bit lower down but still desirable is Colorado State, for access to the Denver market.  The rest of the MWC markets are tertiary.  One might make a resonable argument the desirable list ought to include Utah State.  For me, no.

The trouble is that the four schools you mention do not dominate their TV market.  There are bigger schools and conferences, pro sports, and other outdoor activities like the beach and the ski resorts that dominate.  Boise and Wyoming do dominate their markets but nobody cares from a national perspective as their markets are too small.  

The MWC and leftover Conference of Misfit Toys members are right where they belong.   

[Brew_Poke]

On 6/3/2024 at 10:36 AM, soupslam1 said:

The only thing UNLV and SDSU have going for them is that they are good travel destinations. Decent markets too but no eyeballs tune into their games so TV ad value is zilch. They have never done anything of significance in football. 

Aztecs have won a few MWC titles, that's not nothing.

[Did I hear a WOOSH?]

On 6/2/2024 at 3:04 PM, Beaver-Poke said:

"Second-rate" is pretty harsh. With the death of the Pac-12 it's the #5 athletic conference in country in the sports that matter (football, men's basketball). Excellent chance of a CFP berth in 2 of every 3 years. 

Not sure where SDSU and UNLV will "bolt" to, unless you think the Big 12 is going to expand even further and become even more unwieldly. I would expect most, if not all, of the Big 12 want anything to do with those schools. 

The potential is there to be top 5, still a ways to go though.

[Spaztecs]

On 6/3/2024 at 10:12 AM, Chalsean said:

Still humorous to have two Cali schools in a conference called Atlantic Coast Conference.  Calford apparently doesnt teach geography

Just as humorous as having Cali Schools and Hawa'ii in the MW.

My fave though is Conferences with math issues.

[MissionTrails]

On 6/4/2024 at 7:45 AM, Spaztecs said:

Just as humorous as having Cali Schools and Hawa'ii in the MW.

My fave though is Conferences with math issues.

Hey, we were almost "Big East" w Boise a few years ago.