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On 5/9/2024 at 8:54 PM, OrediggerPoke said:

Here’s the question - do we believe Linder will pay the buyout for leaving early (over $1 million I believe) or did Wyoming let him leave free of any buyout to get rid of him?

Two questions actually.  Is it really happening.  Right now it's a twitter rumor.  Might not be true.

Answer to your question though.  If it happens, and Wyoming doesn't collect the full buyout, fire the AD on the spot.  That's a hose job, and that's why you put buyouts in the contract.  I'd demand it in cash.

 

 

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On 5/9/2024 at 9:11 PM, Headbutt said:

Two questions actually.  Is it really happening.  Right now it's a twitter rumor.  Might not be true.

Answer to your question though.  If it happens, and Wyoming doesn't collect the full buyout, fire the AD on the spot.  That's a hose job, and that's why you put buyouts in the contract.  I'd demand it in cash.

 

 

It’s happening.  ESPN doesn’t put stuff like this out there without a damn good belief in the veracity.  
 

But Linder doesn’t leave if he is forced to pay a buyout and I can’t imagine Texas Tech is paying that money for an assistant.  Another season of Linder and we are even in a worse spot (if that’s imaginable).  So sometime the best solution is divorce with each party paying their own costs.  I’m betting on no buyout.  

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On 5/9/2024 at 9:15 PM, OrediggerPoke said:

It’s happening.  ESPN doesn’t put stuff like this out there without a damn good belief in the veracity.  
 

But Linder doesn’t leave if he is forced to pay a buyout and I can’t imagine Texas Tech is paying that money for an assistant.  Another season of Linder and we are even in a worse spot (if that’s imaginable).  So sometime the best solution is divorce with each party paying their own costs.  I’m betting on no buyout.  

Good points but he's leaving Wyo high and dry.  Collect the $$ or hire somebody with a backbone.  I really, really hope the Wyo AD has one.  You just don't set the reputation of being easy to walk on, and if Linder leaves without a buyout then Wyoming becomes a laughing stock.  Past performance suggests that your AD ain't that chickenshit.  Linder owes the money.  Negotiate if he leaves in March.  May is way too late to be nice about it.

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On 5/9/2024 at 9:27 PM, Headbutt said:

Good points but he's leaving Wyo high and dry.  Collect the $$ or hire somebody with a backbone.  I really, really hope the Wyo AD has one.  You just don't set the reputation of being easy to walk on, and if Linder leaves without a buyout then Wyoming becomes a laughing stock.  Past performance suggests that your AD ain't that chickenshit.  Linder owes the money.  Negotiate if he leaves in March.  May is way too late to be nice about it.

Definitely make him pay the buyout.

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On 5/9/2024 at 8:11 PM, Headbutt said:

 

Answer to your question though.  If it happens, and Wyoming doesn't collect the full buyout, fire the AD on the spot.  

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On 5/9/2024 at 8:54 PM, OrediggerPoke said:

Here’s the question - do we believe Linder will pay the buyout for leaving early (over $1 million I believe) or did Wyoming let him leave free of any buyout to get rid of him?

I’ll bet the contract is written in a way that allows him to step into an assistant position without penalty of a buyout.

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On 5/9/2024 at 8:35 PM, Aggie84025 said:

While the timing sucks I think it will be better for WYO in the longer term.  Linder did not seem to be able to navigate the NIL area very well.  Be interesting to see who puts in for the job.  Sundance would be a great hire IMO.  Just don't hire one of the local Laramie or Cheyenne high school coaches.

It's not a matter of navigation.

Your Schools Collective either has the jack or they don't. If you don't, you're going to turn over your roster every year. 

In this era, at the lower end of the MW, you have to find kids with high floors, coming from the lower levels of D1 or the FCS with one or two years left. Make sure they fit your system. A good teaching and in game adjustment Coach could consistently finish mid to upper half of the pack in the MW.

 

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On 5/9/2024 at 9:15 PM, OrediggerPoke said:

It’s happening.  ESPN doesn’t put stuff like this out there without a damn good belief in the veracity.  
 

But Linder doesn’t leave if he is forced to pay a buyout and I can’t imagine Texas Tech is paying that money for an assistant.  Another season of Linder and we are even in a worse spot (if that’s imaginable).  So sometime the best solution is divorce with each party paying their own costs.  I’m betting on no buyout.  

 

The Pokes could be in a worse spot. What if his recruits and transfers decide to transfer out ?

The new Coach is starting from scratch after most of the Portal talent has been picked through.

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On 5/10/2024 at 12:08 AM, Spaztecs said:

 

The Pokes could be in a worse spot. What if his recruits and transfers decide to transfer out ?

The new Coach is starting from scratch after most of the Portal talent has been picked through.

They probably will.  All of our talent has already transferred out over the past 2 years.  Arguably, SJSU has a more talented roster on paper.   This allows us to start building a program rather than another year of a coach just there to cash a paycheck.  
 

Wyoming will likely be a single digit win team next year no doubt.  But better to take our lumps now.  

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On 5/10/2024 at 1:08 AM, Spaztecs said:

 

The Pokes could be in a worse spot. What if his recruits and transfers decide to transfer out ?

The new Coach is starting from scratch after most of the Portal talent has been picked through.

The current roster is mostly comprised of Summit league staters Big West backups and incoming freshman. Even if the entire roster turns over we are probably only looking at a difference of 8 wins vs 12 wins 

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On 5/10/2024 at 6:53 AM, The Brent Vigen Diet said:

The current roster is mostly comprised of Summit league staters Big West backups and incoming freshman. Even if the entire roster turns over we are probably only looking at a difference of 6 wins vs 12 wins. Let’s rip the bandaid off. They better not just promote Deweese for roster continuity.

 

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On 5/9/2024 at 6:20 PM, LoFasZz said:

To be an assistant 

It sucks to be Wyoming

Actually LOLFartz, it is great to be Wyoming.  The guy was worse than a cancer to our program.  You should be concerned for your own future, not ours.  May take a few years to right the ship (ala Tim Miles at Sheepstate), but he saw the writing on the wall.  Wyoming must be in your head 24/7 for you to be the first to post about it.  Well done.

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On 5/10/2024 at 7:27 AM, Iam4wyo said:

Actually LOLFartz, it is great to be Wyoming.  The guy was worse than a cancer to our program.  You should be concerned for your own future, not ours.  May take a few years to right the ship (ala Tim Miles at Sheepstate), but he saw the writing on the wall.  Wyoming must be in your head 24/7 for you to be the first to post about it.  Well done.

Agreed, from the outside it looked Linder was a dead man walking and not going to get WYO turned around.  The timing sucks of it but in 2 years WYO will be better off for it.  This will be especially true if they can get Sundance to be the head coach.

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On 5/9/2024 at 8:32 PM, OrediggerPoke said:

I sat right behind him at games and had the ‘pleasure’ of meeting him briefly.   I might actually have chosen to have a beer with Dave Christensen over him.  
 

But yes - Linder would agree with whatever excuse someone could come up for him. Certainly the first to point fingers at everyone and anything but himself.  

I've met him, too. I honestly think he is an autist or has Asperger's. Smart, but no people skills.

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I thought I’d post this link to some possible candidates from Cody Tucker’s website. Cody does a great job covering Wyoming sports. He did a local radio interview today discussing it and revealed that he spoke to Doug Gottlieb last night about the job.

https://7220sports.com/who-should-replace-linder-at-wyoming-here-are-some-ideas/

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On 5/10/2024 at 2:52 PM, Swoll Cracker said:

I thought I’d post this link to some possible candidates from Cody Tucker’s website. Cody does a great job covering Wyoming sports. He did a local radio interview today discussing it and revealed that he spoke to Doug Gottlieb last night about the job.

https://7220sports.com/who-should-replace-linder-at-wyoming-here-are-some-ideas/

If Gottlieb is an actual candidate that doesn’t bode well…

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