BSUTOP25 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 https://x.com/bjrains/status/1788298043391091135?s=46 Schools like TCU that do this need to be punished with fines, no post season play, coaching suspensions, and no access to the transfer portal for a full year. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Quote It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/8/2024 at 7:41 PM, BSUTOP25 said: https://x.com/bjrains/status/1788298043391091135?s=46 Schools like TCU that do this need to be punished with fines, no post season play, coaching suspensions, and no access to the transfer portal for a full year. There definitely needs to be more enforceable rules and penalties for illegal tampering. But honestly, what are the rules? Does any school even care? A few years ago, Cam Rising was being chased down by Florida. He said no. Our AD said it was illegal. He called Florida’s AD and threw a fit. But nothing happened. What is illegal? It seems it’s just a free for all with the inmates running the asylum. I think it just gets worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Did I hear a WOOSH? Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/8/2024 at 9:41 PM, BSUTOP25 said: https://x.com/bjrains/status/1788298043391091135?s=46 Schools like TCU that do this need to be punished with fines, no post season play, coaching suspensions, and no access to the transfer portal for a full year. This is something close to 100% of schools do. It’s going to be hard to hold anyone accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 On 5/8/2024 at 8:33 PM, utenation said: There definitely needs to be more enforceable rules and penalties for illegal tampering. But honestly, what are the rules? Does any school even care? A few years ago, Cam Rising was being chased down by Florida. He said no. Our AD said it was illegal. He called Florida’s AD and threw a fit. But nothing happened. What is illegal? It seems it’s just a free for all with the inmates running the asylum. I think it just gets worse. I’m personally in favor of NIL as I think it’s well deserved. With the transfer portal, I’m not opposed to it but there has to be some stronger rules and regulations around it. Otherwise college sports needs to go to a full compensation model with enforceable contracts because it will eventually get to the point where star players, even with some of the money schools, are going to switch allegiances if the paycheck is large enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCoug Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/9/2024 at 6:30 AM, BSUTOP25 said: I’m personally in favor of NIL as I think it’s well deserved. With the transfer portal, I’m not opposed to it but there has to be some stronger rules and regulations around it. Otherwise college sports needs to go to a full compensation model with enforceable contracts because it will eventually get to the point where star players, even with some of the money schools, are going to switch allegiances if the paycheck is large enough. Eventually????? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSUTOP25 Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 On 5/9/2024 at 6:59 AM, NorCalCoug said: Eventually????? I didn’t write that very well. What I meant was like a star quarterback for an Alabama or a Michigan going somewhere else in the middle of the season because a Texas or a Florida offer up a ridiculous amount of money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 This is nothing compared to cycling. Guys are signing contracts for the next season during the Tour de France. There are actually cases of guys taking a pull for their new Team. Oftentimes, Teams will shut said riders down for the season or send them to minor races where their mid season betrayal won't impact their current team Quote "We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories." Americans Mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Personally, I'm ok with keeping a position in the hierarchy of CFB where we can BE a dirtbag.... But the idea of players changing schools in midseason is ludicrous. One of the few things where the NCAA does have some control. 1 Quote It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/8/2024 at 7:43 PM, RSF said: Get your school in line dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSF Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/9/2024 at 9:54 AM, bornontheblue said: Get your school in line dude What's it worth to ya? Shit aint free. Quote It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueAg Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Does anything or anyone in this world experience more pain and hurt than B.J. Rains' vagina? This has been going on well before NIL was ever in place. It is just an open market now where those with enough money will try like hell to buy the best roster they can and not a bit of it is against the rules. Nothing will change until some set of "rules" are put in place and even then, it is going to take some serious punishments to be handed down to the "haves" to even have hope that this can be reigned in. Does anyone think that is going to happen? Nope, never has and never will. I've seen lots of discussion about players transferring mid-season for more money or being paid to join teams that have made the playoffs to bolster their roster. Because this is a question of eligibility, the conversation leads to players challenging that they can only play 4 years. Will we see a player (and their agent) eventually challenge that rule and try to continue to play at the collegiate level for as long as they can get paid because it is their best path to making a living? Besides, does B.J. believe BSU doesn't do the exact same thing by going shopping for players at lesser programs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterfrog Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 They probably found out we were tampering with your head coach too. That is why they fired him in the middle of the season before he took the assistant job at TCU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevadaFan Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/9/2024 at 8:31 AM, TrueAg said: Does anything or anyone in this world experience more pain and hurt than B.J. Rains' vagina? This has been going on well before NIL was ever in place. It is just an open market now where those with enough money will try like hell to buy the best roster they can and not a bit of it is against the rules. Nothing will change until some set of "rules" are put in place and even then, it is going to take some serious punishments to be handed down to the "haves" to even have hope that this can be reigned in. Does anyone think that is going to happen? Nope, never has and never will. I've seen lots of discussion about players transferring mid-season for more money or being paid to join teams that have made the playoffs to bolster their roster. Because this is a question of eligibility, the conversation leads to players challenging that they can only play 4 years. Will we see a player (and their agent) eventually challenge that rule and try to continue to play at the collegiate level for as long as they can get paid because it is their best path to making a living? Besides, does B.J. believe BSU doesn't do the exact same thing by going shopping for players at lesser programs? Who is BJ Rains? And is he a Boise ugly mouth breather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmartigan Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/8/2024 at 8:33 PM, utenation said: There definitely needs to be more enforceable rules and penalties for illegal tampering. But honestly, what are the rules? Does any school even care? A few years ago, Cam Rising was being chased down by Florida. He said no. Our AD said it was illegal. He called Florida’s AD and threw a fit. But nothing happened. What is illegal? It seems it’s just a free for all with the inmates running the asylum. I think it just gets worse. It's never enforced. Years ago when it was much harder to transfer David Collette admitted on a podcast that Utah tampered leading him to transfer. Zero consequences. What can the NCAA do anymore? Also.. the number of tears I have for Boise State having their players illegally poached is zero. 1 Quote There are only two things I can't stand in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misplacedcowboy Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/9/2024 at 12:03 PM, madmartigan said: It's never enforced. Years ago when it was much harder to transfer David Collette admitted on a podcast that Utah tampered leading him to transfer. Zero consequences. What can the NCAA do anymore? Also.. the number of tears I have for Boise State having their players illegally poached is zero. I think I saw a clip of the NFL draft just last month where Nick Saban was working as an analyst. When talking about a player, he basically said "We tried really hard to get him to jump in the transfer portal, but we never could". Not very fun hearing that as a G5 fan for sure... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headbutt Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/9/2024 at 8:53 AM, RSF said: Personally, I'm ok with keeping a position in the hierarchy of CFB where we can BE a dirtbag.... But the idea of players changing schools in midseason is ludicrous. One of the few things where the NCAA does have some control. As of today anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headbutt Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/8/2024 at 7:41 PM, BSUTOP25 said: https://x.com/bjrains/status/1788298043391091135?s=46 Schools like TCU that do this need to be punished with fines, no post season play, coaching suspensions, and no access to the transfer portal for a full year. Cry me a f'n river. This hits every single school, especially the G5 who lack the $$ to keep up. Nothing is done about it, because nothing can be done. We had a player poached by a P4, then they set him to work calling a couple of teammates to try and get them to jump in the portal. You can't break the rules if there are no rules. If you don't enforce the rules, then there are no rules, therefore you can't break them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelAlliance Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 It's a shame Bob Kustra isn't around. He would be shutting down academic departments and even entire colleges to transfer the money to the NIL fund. That man had his higher education priorities straight.. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 On 5/9/2024 at 2:43 PM, Headbutt said: Cry me a f'n river. This hits every single school, especially the G5 who lack the $$ to keep up. Nothing is done about it, because nothing can be done. We had a player poached by a P4, then they set him to work calling a couple of teammates to try and get them to jump in the portal. You can't break the rules if there are no rules. If you don't enforce the rules, then there are no rules, therefore you can't break them. One other thing to look at. I'm not saying it's fair or right. Many, not all P4 coaches are on a shorter leash than G5 coaches. They get paid much more, bigger expectations from fans, admin and boosters. Some delusional P4 fanbases want coaches fired after 1 year if you aren't competing for a NC. I think this adds a lot of extra pressure to win now and maybe step on anyone's toes to get there without tougher rules and or enforcement. Nobody except G5 schools are developing young players anymore. It's all about picking the meat off the bone of other schools with your checkbook out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
