Gong to be expensive to be in a Power conference with the new Athlete Compensation Model

[Headbutt]

On 5/25/2024 at 2:28 PM, RebelAlliance said:

If the players are employees, there will just be stipulations on outside income written into their contracts.  

Doubt it.  I think SCOTUS made NIL untouchable.  I can see some rules around proving that the NIL is actually for name, image, and likeness and not pay for play.  However, that would be a piece of cake to get around.

[sactowndog]

On 5/9/2024 at 2:56 PM, Headbutt said:

The devil is in the details.  I'd like to see more of what exactly that bill protects.  Football or the P4?

What do you think it will protect? 

[sactowndog]

On 5/25/2024 at 5:00 PM, Headbutt said:

Doubt it.  I think SCOTUS made NIL untouchable.  I can see some rules around proving that the NIL is actually for name, image, and likeness and not pay for play.  However, that would be a piece of cake to get around.

No but they could well write in buy outs and non compete clauses.  

[sactowndog]

I would like to see the G5 get together and mandate that all athletic terms must have a buy-out of 125% minimum the value of the deal.  

[Headbutt]

On 5/25/2024 at 6:28 PM, sactowndog said:

I would like to see the G5 get together and mandate that all athletic terms must have a buy-out of 125% minimum the value of the deal.  

Can discuss the buyout amount until the cows come home, but it's clear that steps have to be taken to protect our bottom line as we become P4 farm teams.

[YesReally]

On 5/5/2024 at 5:35 PM, Wyobraska said:

There would just be an intermediary.  You aren't going to win this battle, college athletics has fundamentally changed.  This is the new reality.  Student athletes have court protection to profit off NIL.  

 

On 5/5/2024 at 4:45 PM, Headbutt said:

Maybe.  They've done most of that already, even though it isn't enforced in any way.  There is no way they can ban an individual student athlete from engaging with a collective.  SCOTUS has already ruled on that one.

 

the NFL seems to  have something that prevents a salary cap exploitation by backdooring some big endorsement contract instead.  Something similar could perhaps be used if a cap total could be agreed upon. 

 

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(b) A player’s Salary shall also include any and all consideration received by the player or his Player Affiliate from a Club or Club Affiliate, even if such consideration is ostensibly paid to the player for services other than football playing services, if the NFL can demonstrate before the Impartial Arbitrator that the consideration paid to the player or Player Affiliate for such nonfootball services does not represent a reasonable approximation of the fair market value of such services as performed by such player. 

 

 

[Headbutt]

On 5/25/2024 at 8:28 PM, YesReally said:

 

 

the NFL seems to  have something that prevents a salary cap exploitation by backdooring some big endorsement contract instead.  Something similar could perhaps be used if a cap total could be agreed upon. 

 

 

 

Already in effect in some states.  Not enforced.   Mostly because the AG's and AD's don't want to hamper their favorite FB team.

[Someone Else]

8 hours ago, RebelAlliance said:

If the players are employees, there will just be stipulations on outside income written into their contracts.  

My comment was in reference to a post suggesting that the G5s revert to an amateur model and ban collectives.  If this were the case players would not be employees and the 'restraint of trade' ruling would still apply thus they could not ban collectives.

[NorthWestCowboy]

Who knows how NIL will all shake out in the end.  There are going to be many iterations of NIL and lawsuits before we have a clear picture.  The one thing I know is the only compensation in addition to scholarships I am 100% in favor of at the G5 level is all athletes, regardless of sport getting paid federal or state minimum wage for every hour they are in practice or competition.  If they want to get paid beyond this then they can go to the P4 or turn pro.  What college football and basketball are becoming is just another professional league and it has little appeal to me to watch.  If there are still athletes that care about being students because an infinitesimally small percentage of athletes will ever turn pro in their sport then I am all in for watching and supporting their efforts on the the field/court and in the classroom.

[RebelAlliance]

On 5/25/2024 at 7:00 PM, Headbutt said:

Doubt it.  I think SCOTUS made NIL untouchable.  I can see some rules around proving that the NIL is actually for name, image, and likeness and not pay for play.  However, that would be a piece of cake to get around.

Watch how quick the current SCOTUS turns on a dime when the issue becomes one of employer vs. employee rights.

[---I GREEN INFECTION I---]

On 5/3/2024 at 12:56 PM, JohnJayJay said:

Exactly. Nobody watches minor league sports. There’s a reason why you don’t see 45k seat AAA ballparks. If I want to watch compensated professionals, I want to watch the best. The powers that be have confused why we watch college football: it’s not because of professionalism and skill level, it’s because of community, regional rivalries, feel good stories about local kids playing for local universities, being an alum, etc. Lose all that in pursuit of professionalism, de facto free agency, and the almighty dollar, and many of us will stop watching and switch over to the NFL if we need a football fix. Currently, I don’t watch much NFL ball, but I obsessively watch and follow my college team (Fresno St) and their conference mates in the MWC. That’s about it. I could give a rip about about the B10, SEC, etc. If schools like Fresno St and other G5s get further marginalized into irrelevance by the networks and “P4” presidents, I’ll simply stop watching college football. I won’t suddenly develop an interest in an Iowa vs Northwestern game. I suspect many other G5 fans feel the same way. That’s enough of a loss of viewers that would make these current multibillion dollar TV contracts the P4 currently enjoy potentially untenable and disastrous for the networks. 

 

Great Apples/Oranges take @JohnJayJay.

AAA Baseball franchises don’t have +100-yrs o’ traditions & thousands of alumni.

Does Greater Metro Clovis have any minor league baseball teams?  I’m assuming y’all have a hockey squad that plays in the same league w/the team in Bako.  My Uncle took me to a few Modesto A’s games back-in-the-day.

 

[---I GREEN INFECTION I---]

On 5/26/2024 at 9:08 AM, RebelAlliance said:

Watch how quick the current SCOTUS turns on a dime when the issue becomes one of employer vs. employee rights.

 

…w/collective barging & unionization.

 

#UnionStrong

#HollywoodTeamsters