Free Palestine College Protests

[Bob]

Who gives a shit about either country anymore. Let them duke it out between themselves without any of our money.

[Motown Monty]

someone correct me if I am wrong

but i thought Israel is a wealthy country.  Is that correct?

So if yes, why are they needed 20 billion dollars from the United States to attack the Palestinians?  

Also, what is Israel's end game here?   Why aren't they trying to integrate the Palestinians into society as full Israeli citizens?  

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 4/30/2024 at 1:32 PM, Bob said:

Who gives a shit about either country anymore. Let them duke it out between themselves without any of our money.

It’s pennies in our budget. We need Israel because they are more like us than those other assholes in the region. Do you like paying 5 bucks a gallon for gas and having that tacked on to literally everything you buy? Because shipping it to you adds cost to the process of getting the things you need. We’d been making progress lately until these Hamas terrorists threw a Molotov cocktail into all that gasoline.

I don’t know. Maybe you’d like to live a more stressful and unhappy life. But most people don’t think like that. These rich little douchebags protesting are quite different than when the poor get stressed and want to show it.

Not to mention there are Jews everywhere and they certainly give a shit when someone loudly says they desire their extermination which has openly been Hamas’ goal since its inception. Go back to Poland, Jews will not replace us, +++++ out of here with that nonsense about spending money when you couldn’t even give a guesstimate as to how much of the federal budget is allocated to these proxy wars.

[RSF]

On 4/30/2024 at 3:40 PM, Motown Monty said:

Why aren't they trying to integrate the Palestinians into society as full Israeli citizens?  

Because neither side wants that.

[UNLV2001]

The main problem with that region has been: RELIGION 

Which brings me to run this back - Region has been a mess since the fist two guys came across each other back in 6000 BC 

 

 

[Bob]

On 4/30/2024 at 2:48 PM, thelawlorfaithful said:

It’s pennies in our budget. We need Israel because they are more like us than those other assholes in the region. Do you like paying 5 bucks a gallon for gas and having that tacked on to literally everything you buy? Because shipping it to you adds cost to the process of getting the things you need. We’d been making progress lately until these Hamas terrorists threw a Molotov cocktail into all that gasoline.

I don’t know. Maybe you’d like to live a more stressful and unhappy life. But most people don’t think like that. These rich little douchebags protesting are quite different than when the poor get stressed and want to show it.

Not to mention there are Jews everywhere and they certainly give a shit when someone loudly says they desire their extermination which has openly been Hamas’ goal since its inception. Go back to Poland, Jews will not replace us, +++++ out of here with that nonsense about spending money when you couldn’t even give a guesstimate as to how much of the federal budget is allocated to these proxy wars.

Great response! wow. That's the attitude that's gotten us 30 whatever trillion in debt. Glad you are OK with runaway inflation, because I'm not. It's the principle.

The upset Jews in this country should put their personal money where their mouth is and finance the Israeli Army. It's always awesome spending other people's money. Why does it have to be my tax dollars going to this conflict (and every other damn conflict that happens globally). Frankly, I'm sick of it. Spend the billions  given to Ukraine and Israel on infrastructure. Israel especially has the means to finance their own war. Let them kill whatever neighbor they want, I don't care, but they s/b on their own.

 

and Arab nations are going to stop selling us gas? And it already almost is damn near $5. 

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 4/30/2024 at 2:33 PM, Bob said:

Great response! wow. That's the attitude that's gotten us 30 whatever trillion in debt. Glad you are OK with runaway inflation, because I'm not. It's the principle.

The upset Jews in this country should put their personal money where their mouth is and finance the Israeli Army. It's always awesome spending other people's money. Why does it have to be my tax dollars going to this conflict (and every other damn conflict that happens globally). Frankly, I'm sick of it. Spend the billions  given to Ukraine and Israel on infrastructure. Israel especially has the means to finance their own war. Let them kill whatever neighbor they want, I don't care, but they s/b on their own.

It is a great response because it is penny’s compared to the trillions we spend each year. You don’t have any principles because if you did you would recognize that discretionary spending is nothing. Our budget problems are from entitlements. Social security, poverty, healthcare, things that make helping our global friends out look like a drop in the bucket. Not to mention the economy and inflation is global and if you don’t spend to keep that in check a few billion dollars doesn’t mean anything. We’ve got Egypt, Jordan, the Saudis, all siding with Israel for the first time in history. All of them have fought wars against them in living memory. So just screw that up because of what? You’ve made some dumb posts on a message board?

You don’t pay a scintilla of a dime to finance military aid to Ukraine and Israel. Most people don’t You watch dipshits on tv and the radio that get rich pissing you off over things you wouldn’t think about. You don’t like inflation and the problems posed by our national debt, persuade people that we spend too much on the elderly, the sick, and the poor. I’ll be right there with you. But you sound just like these coddled dorks at big universities listening to other dipshits thinking they’re making a difference when you bring up aid to people fighting those that hate us as the reason we’re in the economic state we’re in.

Somebody attacked Israel. They are our best friend in the region. When your friend asks for help, you help them. Even if they are douchebags from time to time. It’s war and we don’t benefit if they lose.

[Motown Monty]

regardless of discussion on if it is "a good deal" to fund Israel attacking Gaza...

 

I get the vibe that this situation is harming Israel and Democrats the longer it goes on.

People were very sympathetic to Israel after the Hamas terrorist attacks.   But now Israel response is being sold as collective punishment against civilians.  Killing way more people, and starving them out?   This is angering college students and against Israel and Democrats, as young liberals are in favor of the Paelestinians

 

the longer this goes on, the worse it gets for Israel and Biden imo.   they need a solution fast

 

The nearly seven-month war has taken a devastating toll on Gaza's residents. Health authorities say that more than 34,000 people have been killed so far, roughly 1.5% of the total prewar population.

[Motown Monty]

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-04-30-2024-f5e14fd176d69f9c4e23b48f3ab5af6a

Netanyahu vows to invade Rafah ‘with or without a deal’ as cease-fire talks with Hamas continue

[DestinFlPackfan]

They're no different than the 'okutards' , the 'occupiy movement'.

Idiots with nothing better to do....definitely don't contribute.

[SharkTanked]

On 4/30/2024 at 9:45 AM, mugtang said:

I think there's a lot of anti-Semitism built into these protests without the protestors realizing it.  The only reason people care about the plight of the Palestinians is because it's the evil Jews "oppressing" them.  I don't see these kids out there protesting about the:

1. Civil war going on in Yemen

2. The genocide going on in Darfur

3. The oppression & exploitation of the Uyghurs in China

4. The bombing of civilians by Russia in the Ukraine

5. The conflict in Myanmar

and so on.

Hamas is a pro at the propaganda game and people eat it up.  Hamas started this war.  Israel is going to fight until Hamas is defeated.  If these protestors really want the war to end they should be demanding Hamas surrender.

 

I think the underlying cause of protest has a lot to do with conscious or unconscious antisemitism; however, I would guess the vast majority of those actually participating have absolutely no idea what any of it is about and are just sewing their "fight the power" oats without even knowing what power they are fighting. College kids be like that.

[SharkTanked]

On 4/30/2024 at 6:26 AM, Akkula said:

The term "zionist" should really be applied to the right wingers and settlers who continue to invade Palestinian territory.  

I had always thought this is exactly where the term "Zionist" was being applied?

I do agree with much of your post. I don't understand the purpose of these protests, nor do I think those who support Palestine unconditionally have really thought their position through or understand what Hamas is really all about.

To those who claim to protest this war because they are against the Netanyahu regime, I really wonder if they would still be protesting if that regime was not in charge and another, perhaps more liberal regime was. Because any Israeli president would've reacted exactly the same way to what Hamas did as Bibi did.

[Jackrabbit]

On 4/30/2024 at 11:48 AM, renoskier said:

umm...it sounds like you're "judging"

do you not believe in the First amendment?

people have a "right" to protest

as long as it's peaceful and not destructive, the schools should ignore them and work around it as best as possible

This way beyond the 1st A.   Students ,faculty, are denied access to bldgs, windows broken, threatening violence threatening jews. Etc.

 

[SharkTanked]

On 4/30/2024 at 4:28 PM, Jackrabbit said:

This way beyond the 1st A.   Students ,faculty, are denied access to bldgs, windows broken, threatening violence threatening jews. Etc.

 

As things have escalated to that point, I agree with the administrations' efforts to end the protests. But I don't think you can say they should have not allowed protests in the first place, because this was the logical result. Because I don't think it was. I don't think it is fair to say they allowed these protests to grow and flourish. These protests happened to result in consequences that few protests on college campuses have (certainly not since the 60's). I don't think it is fair to assume the administrator's could have or should have predicted that. And if they tried to end the protests before they grew and flourished, then that is definitely anti-1A.

[Jackrabbit]

On 4/30/2024 at 11:48 AM, renoskier said:

umm...it sounds like you're "judging"

do you not believe in the First amendment?

people have a "right" to protest

as long as it's peaceful and not destructive, the schools should ignore them and work around it as best as possible

I'm judging the school admin...they show general lack of leadership. 

Breaking windows, destroying  property denying student access is way beyond the 1st A.   Several sources say janitors are being held by protesters...don't know if that's true.

The admin should be looking out for their students and throw out the professional protesters.

[tailingpermit]

On 4/30/2024 at 8:07 PM, SharkTanked said:

As things have escalated to that point, I agree with the administrations' efforts to end the protests. But I don't think you can say they should have not allowed protests in the first place, because this was the logical result. Because I don't think it was. I don't think it is fair to say they allowed these protests to grow and flourish. These protests happened to result in consequences that few protests on college campuses have (certainly not since the 60's). I don't think it is fair to assume the administrator's could have or should have predicted that. And if they tried to end the protests before they grew and flourished, then that is definitely anti-1A.

It’s the occupy shit that gets students in trouble, if they would just disperse each day there wouldn’t be an issue (as long as they’re not interrupting student/faculty life). 
 

It’s the protests of right wing speakers by barricading the venues and creates security issues that gets me. I have no issues with the Palestine protest, but god forbid Tucker or Kyle Rittenhouse comes to campus.  

[SharkTanked]

On 4/30/2024 at 5:18 PM, tailingpermit said:

It’s the occupy shit that gets students in trouble, if they would just disperse each day there wouldn’t be an issue (as long as they’re not interrupting student/faculty life). 
 

It’s the protests of right wing speakers by barricading the venues and creates security issues that gets me. I have no issues with the Palestine protest, but god forbid Tucker or Kyle Rittenhouse comes to campus.  

Well they are kinda doing the same thing now (occupying buildings to prevent their use).

Any protest that prevents access to a building or damages a building should be grounds for expulsion, IMO.

Protesting is not being an obstructionist. That's picketing. 

But not really my original point.

[renoskier]

On 4/30/2024 at 5:07 PM, SharkTanked said:

As things have escalated to that point, I agree with the administrations' efforts to end the protests. But I don't think you can say they should have not allowed protests in the first place, because this was the logical result. Because I don't think it was. I don't think it is fair to say they allowed these protests to grow and flourish. These protests happened to result in consequences that few protests on college campuses have (certainly not since the 60's). I don't think it is fair to assume the administrator's could have or should have predicted that. And if they tried to end the protests before they grew and flourished, then that is definitely anti-1A.

 

On 4/30/2024 at 5:18 PM, Jackrabbit said:

I'm judging the school admin...they show general lack of leadership. 

Breaking windows, destroying  property is beyond the 1st A.   Several sources say janitors are being held by protesters...don't know if that's true.

The admin should be looking out for their students and throw out the professional protesters.

Yes, you're right, those things are against the law. Sharktank is right too, when it moves to violence and/or property destruction, then it's time to step in; not before.

That hasn't happened in most places. Most have been peaceful, maybe somewhat disruptive, but that's kinda the point. If no one is inconvenienced in any way, no one notices. 

[RSF]

On 4/30/2024 at 7:18 PM, Jackrabbit said:

I'm judging the school admin...they show general lack of leadership. 

Breaking windows, destroying  property denying student access is way beyond the 1st A.   Several sources say janitors are being held by protesters...don't know if that's true.

The admin should be looking out for their students and throw out the professional protesters.

And you're showing your typical ignorance of what is actually happening, even when presented with the info.

[RSF]

On 4/30/2024 at 7:18 PM, tailingpermit said:

It’s the occupy shit that gets students in trouble, if they would just disperse each day there wouldn’t be an issue (as long as they’re not interrupting student/faculty 

And in many places they're paying the price for such actions.  As they should.