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Uconn has more NCCA Championships than Duke!

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On 4/9/2024 at 2:02 PM, babs said:

You guys didn’t do any worse than any other team against UConn. Not sure why anyone would cast stones. 

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On 4/10/2024 at 8:05 AM, bigd said:

Gonzaga has never won a championship, they certainly aren't a blue blood. 

9 straight Sweet 16s, multiple final fours...how many programs can lay claim to that?

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On 4/10/2024 at 10:23 AM, Rebels2k3 said:

9 straight Sweet 16s, multiple final fours...how many programs can lay claim to that?

I guess 2 technically qualifies as multiple Final Fours.  Puts them tied for 37th.  And their 0 titles puts them in a tie for 38th overall.  And Sweet 16s is nice, but nobody remembers that.

 

They arent even close to being a 'blue blood'.

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On 4/10/2024 at 9:36 AM, RSF said:

I guess 2 technically qualifies as multiple Final Fours.  Puts them tied for 37th.  And their 0 titles puts them in a tie for 38th overall.  And Sweet 16s is nice, but nobody remembers that.

 

They arent even close to being a 'blue blood'.

To me, "blue blood" is more than just wins. It's power, prestige, brand awareness, fanbase, resources/money and maintaining that through bad seasons. Obviously, The Zags have been fantastic under Few but they are 1 coaching retirement away from being a hot mess and irrelevant. They aren't a wealthy Athletics Department. If Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, UNC etc. have bad seasons or are in a rebuild with a new coach, they will still always be a blue blood in hoops with everything I mentioned above. 

In football, Texas(for the most part the last decade) and USC have been average to bad in football, but they will always be blue bloods and the financials show it. 

While the Big East has been a fantastic basketball conference and UConn has obviously earned their dues, what happens to them if they go on a 5 year skid? Would anyone call them a blue blood? I'm not sure on that.   

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On 4/10/2024 at 11:23 AM, Rebels2k3 said:

9 straight Sweet 16s, multiple final fours...how many programs can lay claim to that?

It just depends on ones definition of blue-blood. IMO, it's the top handful of programs. 

I'd consider North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, UConn, UCLA, Kansas and possibly Indiana as blue bloods. 

 

Gonzaga is no-where near that list. But if you consider the top 25 or so historic programs as blue bloods than I'd include Gonzaga.

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On 4/10/2024 at 10:08 AM, utenation said:

To me, "blue blood" is more than just wins. It's power, prestige, brand awareness, fanbase, resources/money and maintaining that through bad seasons. Obviously, The Zags have been fantastic under Few but they are 1 coaching retirement away from being a hot mess and irrelevant. They aren't a wealthy Athletics Department. If Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, UNC etc. have bad seasons or are in a rebuild with a new coach

In football, Texas(for the most part the last decade) and USC have been average to bad in football, but they will always be blue bloods and the financials show it. 

While the Big East has been a fantastic basketball conference and UConn has obviously earned their dues, what happens to them if they go on a 5 year skid? Would anyone call them a blue blood? I'm not sure on that.   

Didn't you forget UNLV on your list.....😉

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On 4/10/2024 at 12:53 PM, Rebels2k3 said:

The fact is very few programs can touch what Gonzaga has done over the past 25+ years. Not sure why people hate Gonzaga so much but it is what it is.

Would the Rebels rather have that or the national championship and the four Final Four appearances?

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On 4/10/2024 at 10:53 AM, Rebels2k3 said:

The fact is very few programs can touch what Gonzaga has done over the past 25+ years. Not sure why people hate Gonzaga so much but it is what it is.

No one hates Gonzaga. One thing isn’t like the other. GU is one Coach away from being USF. 

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On 4/10/2024 at 10:08 AM, utenation said:

To me, "blue blood" is more than just wins. It's power, prestige, brand awareness, fanbase, resources/money and maintaining that through bad seasons. Obviously, The Zags have been fantastic under Few but they are 1 coaching retirement away from being a hot mess and irrelevant. They aren't a wealthy Athletics Department. If Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, UNC etc. have bad seasons or are in a rebuild with a new coach, they will still always be a blue blood in hoops with everything I mentioned above. 

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In football, Texas(for the most part the last decade) and USC have been average to bad in football, but they will always be blue bloods and the financials show it. 

While the Big East has been a fantastic basketball conference and UConn has obviously earned their dues, what happens to them if they go on a 5 year skid? Would anyone call them a blue blood? I'm not sure on that.   

They’ve won 6 titles in 25 years under 3 different coaches. It’s hard to argue that they are not. In the same time span, the others you mentioned have won a combined 6. At this point, I think it’s hard to argue they aren’t. Especially if you consider UCLA and Indiana blue bloods. They have done chit in forever. 

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On 4/10/2024 at 5:37 PM, babs said:

They’ve won 6 titles in 25 years under 3 different coaches. It’s hard to argue that they are not. In the same time span, the others you mentioned have won a combined 6. At this point, I think it’s hard to argue they aren’t. Especially if you consider UCLA and Indiana blue bloods. They have done chit in forever. 

I don’t doubt their performance. I just think there is more to being a blue blood. I’m not looking for a debate on this. Which is why I left it as an open ended question. 

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Blue Blood sounds a lot like prom king/queen. If it’s just most money and fans then it’s just a popularity contest. Fine, then UCONN isn’t a blue blood which proves it’s a bs made up designation. 

 

 

 

 

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On 4/10/2024 at 4:37 PM, babs said:

They’ve won 6 titles in 25 years under 3 different coaches. It’s hard to argue that they are not. In the same time span, the others you mentioned have won a combined 6. At this point, I think it’s hard to argue they aren’t. Especially if you consider UCLA and Indiana blue bloods. They have done chit in forever. 

https://www.on3.com/news/top-ten-college-basketball-programs-since-2000-duke-uconn-kansas-unc-kentucky/

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On 4/10/2024 at 5:40 PM, utenation said:

I don’t doubt their performance. I just think there is more to being a blue blood. I’m not looking for a debate on this. Which is why I left it as an open ended question. 

That’s fine. We can agree to disagree then. All good. 

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On 4/10/2024 at 8:53 PM, babs said:

That’s a pretty debatable list. Not sure I think Gonaga is ahead of a lot if schools in this list. 

It lists ‘ships, NCAA trips, and athletes. Not sure what data is missing. 

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