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There was a kid here in Utah who was "outed" as transgender by a School official about a month back. The kid and her family faced harassment, abuse, threats, calls for her to leave School, etc 

The odd thing is, she is not transgendered. Her and her families lives were turned upside down. The School official basically said "oops, my bad." She can't understand why everyone is so upset over an honest mistake.

 

That's Why 

 

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On 4/1/2024 at 6:31 PM, Spaztecs said:

There was a kid here in Utah who was "outed" as transgender by a School official about a month back. The kid and her family faced harassment, abuse, threats, calls for her to leave School, etc 

The odd thing is, she is not transgendered. Her and her families lives were turned upside down. The School official basically said "oops, my bad." She can't understand why everyone is so upset over an honest mistake.

 

That's Why 

 

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The article is about free speech and possibly serving jail time for someone's beliefs. An example would be J.K. Rowling declaring "a woman is an adult human female" and calling out those who pretend otherwise. Or serving jail time for using the wrong pronouns or stating they believe biological males should not be playing or competing against girls or women in sporting events. It has nothing to do with the scenario you posted. That is making false accusations that caused harm and is completely different. If the student was transgender, it doesn't give anyone the right to harass or threaten them either. But continue to be you, move the goalposts and support cancel culture to fit an agenda.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 4/1/2024 at 5:31 PM, Spaztecs said:

There was a kid here in Utah who was "outed" as transgender by a School official about a month back. The kid and her family faced harassment, abuse, threats, calls for her to leave School, etc 

The odd thing is, she is not transgendered. Her and her families lives were turned upside down. The School official basically said "oops, my bad." She can't understand why everyone is so upset over an honest mistake.

 

That's Why 

 

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What should happen here is that family should file a Civil lawsuit against that school official individually. 
 

What should not happen is:

1) the district he represents should not be sued 

2) he should not be fired for his speech though in this case it could well be work related and I could be convinced as such.   

3) No government sanctions of any sort should apply.   

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On 4/1/2024 at 8:03 PM, AztecAlien said:

The article is about free speech and possibly serving jail time for someone's beliefs. An example would be J.K. Rowling declaring "a woman is an adult human female" and calling out those who pretend otherwise. Or serving jail time for using the wrong pronouns or stating they believe biological males should not be playing or competing against girls or women in sporting events. It has nothing to do with the scenario you posted. That is making false accusations that caused harm and is completely different. If the student was transgender, it doesn't give anyone the right to harass or threaten them either. But continue to be you, move the goalposts and support cancel culture to fit an agenda.

 

 

 

 

 

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You really live in such fear that you think someone will go to jail because they say a woman is an adult human female.. 

 

Man you sure scare easy. If you read the article, the author of the bill emphatically says this will not happen.

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On 4/1/2024 at 9:52 PM, IanforHeisman said:

You really live in such fear that you think someone will go to jail because they say a woman is an adult human female.. 

 

Man you sure scare easy.

Pretty obvious you didn't read the article. And the word possibly was used in my first sentence. 

 

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On 4/1/2024 at 9:55 PM, IanforHeisman said:

This is from the author of the bill that was passed

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Again, I used the word possibly in my first sentence. And the LGBT community has been trying to cancel J.K. Rowling for a while now for her stance on gender and women’s rights. The fact that this type of bill was even passed could possibly open up a can of worms.

"Scotland will surely be the first country where offending someone’s feelings could come at higher risk of punishment than stealing their possessions.

The state is coming after people who say things it doesn’t like."

"And that early reassurance from Humza Yousaf that Rowling would not be punished for her gender-critical beliefs? 

Highly questionable.

Twitter is awash with activists declaring themselves ready to report her belief in biological reality to the authorities."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 4/1/2024 at 9:57 PM, AztecAlien said:

Again, I used the word possibly in my first sentence. And the LGBT community has been trying to cancel J.K. Rowling for a while now for her stance on gender and women’s rights. The fact that this type of bill was even passed could possibly open up a can of worms.

"Scotland will surely be the first country where offending someone’s feelings could come at higher risk of punishment than stealing their possessions.

The state is coming after people who say things it doesn’t like."

"And that early reassurance from Humza Yousaf that Rowling would not be punished for her gender-critical beliefs? 

Highly questionable.

Twitter is awash with activists declaring themselves ready to report her belief in biological reality to the authorities."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It seems like Jim's trying to cancel transgenders much the same way a School Official tried to cancel a kid she believed was transgendered here in Utah.

 

Cancel Culture works all ways.

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On 4/1/2024 at 8:03 PM, AztecAlien said:

The article is about free speech and possibly serving jail time for someone's beliefs. An example would be J.K. Rowling declaring "a woman is an adult human female" and calling out those who pretend otherwise. Or serving jail time for using the wrong pronouns or stating they believe biological males should not be playing or competing against girls or women in sporting events. It has nothing to do with the scenario you posted. That is making false accusations that caused harm and is completely different. If the student was transgender, it doesn't give anyone the right to harass or threaten them either. But continue to be you, move the goalposts and support cancel culture to fit an agenda.

 

 

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It's two sides of the same coin. One happens to be illegal in Scotland. Here in America it's a-okay to destroy someones life and stand behind the 1A.

JK's militant stance empowers dickheads like this in Utah to believing they're standing up for something.

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On 4/2/2024 at 7:41 AM, Spaztecs said:

It's two sides of the same coin. One happens to be illegal in Scotland. Here in America it's a-okay to destroy someones life and stand behind the 1A.

JK's militant stance empowers dickheads like this in Utah to believing they're standing up for something.

Why do you, @IanforHeisman and @GoDogs22 hate women? Do you guys need to get something off your chests? 

 

 

 

 

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On 4/1/2024 at 8:03 PM, AztecAlien said:

The article is about free speech and possibly serving jail time for someone's beliefs. An example would be J.K. Rowling declaring "a woman is an adult human female" and calling out those who pretend otherwise. Or serving jail time for using the wrong pronouns or stating they believe biological males should not be playing or competing against girls or women in sporting events. It has nothing to do with the scenario you posted. That is making false accusations that caused harm and is completely different. If the student was transgender, it doesn't give anyone the right to harass or threaten them either. But continue to be you, move the goalposts and support cancel culture to fit an agenda.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The fact you think this law could potentially put people in jail for using the wrong pronouns is hilarious. It's about speech that has the potential to incite harm or violence against someone "on the grounds of age, disability, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity and variations in sex characteristics."
If you think that's taking away your free speech, I would hate to have to tell you about incitement in America.

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On 4/2/2024 at 3:03 PM, Javale McGees Burner said:

It's about speech that has the potential to incite harm or violence against someone

That is already illegal tho without needing to add the gender/pronouns.... LGBTQ Alpha to Omega qualifiers 

1st amendment does not protect that. There is a high standard of proof though in criminal court, a preponderance of evidence is what is required in civil court to recover damages

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On 4/2/2024 at 3:07 PM, bornontheblue said:

That is already illegal tho. 

1st amendment does not protect that. There is a high standard of proof though in criminal court, a preponderance of evidence is what is required in civil court to recover damages

Yes, I know. That's what I was saying. The new law in Scotland extends the incitement protections to specific classifications of people. That's all it does. That's why it's silly to say that you could potentially go to jail for using the wrong pronouns

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On 4/2/2024 at 3:11 PM, Javale McGees Burner said:

t protections to specific classifications of people.

That would never fly here, and for good reason. 

Those classes of people are already protected as I pointed out earlier. 

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