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It definitely looks interesting, and the early reviews are promising. Most important thing (IMO) is they have to make sure the cause of a civil war in the near future where California and Texas are on the same side is somewhat plausible, otherwise it’ll be really hard to suspend disbelief. 
 

I’m guessing it’s some kind of situation where they make TX represent the “extreme right” and CA represent the “extreme left” and they join forces to both fight for independence; basically a movie about the horseshoe theory. Personally I hope it’s more clever than that, but we will see. I’m definitely going to watch it regardless.

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On 3/14/2024 at 11:48 PM, SalinasSpartan said:

It definitely looks interesting, and the early reviews are promising. Most important thing (IMO) is they have to make sure the cause of a civil war in the near future where California and Texas are on the same side is somewhat plausible, otherwise it’ll be really hard to suspend disbelief. 
 

I’m guessing it’s some kind of situation where they make TX represent the “extreme right” and CA represent the “extreme left” and they join forces to both fight for independence; basically a movie about the horseshoe theory. Personally I hope it’s more clever than that, but we will see. I’m definitely going to watch it regardless.

I watched the film last night in IMAX and I really enjoyed it. I was curious how they played the CA/TX team up in the film and it does seem plausible. Basically 3/4 of the country secede from the Union with California and Texas being the "leaders" of the Western Forces. They are the only two states that are big enough, financially independent, and have the resources to lead a secession. Throughout the film you can hear rumblings that the north western states don't agree with California and the Florida Alliance faction having their own issues trying to get the Eastern states on board with their own secession. The President (Nick Offerman) pissed everyone off and caused the country to split essentially into 4 different factions, each with their own agendas and ideas about how to rebuild the country.

Alex Garland did a pretty good job about not shoving politics down your throat, but instead let the story play out through the lens of wartime photo journalists and the audience has to draw up their own conclusions. If you read between the lines and catch some of the offhand dialogue peppered throughout the film you can get more of an idea on the political leanings and alliances between the different states which I thought was pretty cool. The film is brutal and extremely violent. The woman sitting next to me walked out and left midway through because she couldn't hand the stress in some scenes.   

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In my mind, the US is really five distinct geo-political regions.

The Left Coast, Inter-Mountain West (Everything East of the Sierras/Cascades to the Front Range), The South, Midwest, and North East.

Different cultures, economic interests, attitudes, ideas on Governance.

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On 4/12/2024 at 12:36 PM, ridgeview2 said:

I watched the film last night in IMAX and I really enjoyed it. I was curious how they played the CA/TX team up in the film and it does seem plausible. Basically 3/4 of the country secede from the Union with California and Texas being the "leaders" of the Western Forces. They are the only two states that are big enough, financially independent, and have the resources to lead a secession. Throughout the film you can hear rumblings that the north western states don't agree with California and the Florida Alliance faction having their own issues trying to get the Eastern states on board with their own secession. The President (Nick Offerman) pissed everyone off and caused the country to split essentially into 4 different factions, each with their own agendas and ideas about how to rebuild the country.

Alex Garland did a pretty good job about not shoving politics down your throat, but instead let the story play out through the lens of wartime photo journalists and the audience has to draw up their own conclusions. If you read between the lines and catch some of the offhand dialogue peppered throughout the film you can get more of an idea on the political leanings and alliances between the different states which I thought was pretty cool. The film is brutal and extremely violent. The woman sitting next to me walked out and left midway through because she couldn't hand the stress in some scenes.   

Thanks for the update. I won’t be able to check it out for a couple more weeks, so do you you have any insight or tips to give to us guys that are getting ready?

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On 4/12/2024 at 12:52 PM, Spaztecs said:

In my mind, the US is really five distinct geo-political regions.

The Left Coast, Inter-Mountain West (Everything East of the Sierras/Cascades to the Front Range), The South, Midwest, and North East.

Different cultures, economic interests, attitudes, ideas on Governance.

You left out the East. You have NE and South unless you’re using Civil War boundaries and the North is part of the NE. But it was a war of North vs South, not NE vs. South. 

You also forgot about Alaska and Hawaii. 

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On 4/12/2024 at 8:47 PM, Nevada Convert said:

You left out the East. You have NE and South unless you’re using Civil War boundaries and the North is part of the NE. But it was a war of North vs South, not NE vs. South. 

You also forgot about Alaska and Hawaii. 

You forgot Guam, PR, and the rest of the territories.

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On 4/12/2024 at 9:47 PM, Nevada Convert said:

You left out the East. You have NE and South unless you’re using Civil War boundaries and the North is part of the NE. But it was a war of North vs South, not NE vs. South. 

You also forgot about Alaska and Hawaii. 

 

Give Alaska and Hawaii back to the locals.

Yes, I neglected the Central East Coast. North Carolina north to Maryland/Deleware/Eastern Pa.

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On 4/13/2024 at 9:38 AM, Nevada Convert said:

Nah, 50 states. 

I've seen some stuff on YouTube discussing pluses and minuses of each State going off the Rez, so to speak.

I have yet to see one how States would actually align with one another because of economics and Culture. It's not a stretch to imagine Eastern New Mexico wanting to be part of Texas because of Oil and Ag interests. Besides, they have zero ability to defend themselves.

Vegas and Reno aligning with Cali. Yet, the rest of Nevada aligning with an Inter-Mountain alliance. Arizona being Arizona despite the consequences.

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The thing that never gets talked about whenever new Civil War rhetoric gets thrown around is the likelihood of China and Russia exerting influence both covertly and militarily. A Civil War scenario is their wet dream. If a Civil War were to pop off, there will be no American winners. Everything we know now will be gone forever. China and Russia will be there to pick up the pieces. 

I've been gone from here too long. Life circumstances. Hopefully I can get back into the swing of things. I've actually missed you clowns.

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On 4/14/2024 at 7:38 PM, sean327 said:

The thing that never gets talked about whenever new Civil War rhetoric gets thrown around is the likelihood of China and Russia exerting influence both covertly and militarily. A Civil War scenario is their wet dream. If a Civil War were to pop off, there will be no American winners. Everything we know now will be gone forever. China and Russia will be there to pick up the pieces. 

I've been gone from here too long. Life circumstances. Hopefully I can get back into the swing of things. I've actually missed you clowns.

We've definitely missed you around here. Glad to see you back. 

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The movie isn't really meant to realistically portray any message or deeper meaning about America--the writer/director is British and I don't think he's even lived in the US for a long period of time.  

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I went and saw it today.  Really liked it.  I wish there was some more backstory as to what happened and how they got to that point. But I think it did a good job, portrayed what a civil war might look like.  It certainly doesn’t glorify war in any way. 

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On 4/14/2024 at 4:38 PM, sean327 said:

The thing that never gets talked about whenever new Civil War rhetoric gets thrown around is the likelihood of China and Russia exerting influence both covertly and militarily. A Civil War scenario is their wet dream. If a Civil War were to pop off, there will be no American winners. Everything we know now will be gone forever. China and Russia will be there to pick up the pieces. 

I've been gone from here too long. Life circumstances. Hopefully I can get back into the swing of things. I've actually missed you clowns.

Dude, I was about to check in to see what’s up. Hope all is well. 

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On 4/14/2024 at 4:38 PM, sean327 said:

The thing that never gets talked about whenever new Civil War rhetoric gets thrown around is the likelihood of China and Russia exerting influence both covertly and militarily. A Civil War scenario is their wet dream. If a Civil War were to pop off, there will be no American winners. Everything we know now will be gone forever. China and Russia will be there to pick up the pieces. 

I've been gone from here too long. Life circumstances. Hopefully I can get back into the swing of things. I've actually missed you clowns.

I think the only time the US would really be vulnerable to take over would be a hardcore revolution or an extreme apocalyptic event like Yellowstone completely blowing. I don’t think a serious revolution is even remotely possible, at least for the next 75 years. 

I worry about an apocalyptic event that just brings us to our knees. That’s why it’s crucial that we have the 2nd Amendment. China could just act incredibly concerned, offer huge aid whether asked or not. Bring all this aid over using their big Navy ships. Bring in huge numbers of aid workers that are soldiers in plain clothes. And then just never leave. They’d have control of the ports. We’d need them for food. Something like that. 

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I think the intent of the movie was not to preach a political message beyond, THIS WOULD SUCK! Don't do it!

To clarify, there is no right of succession in the U.S. Constitution, but as United States citizens, we have freedom of movement. If we believe things are bad and unrecoverable, we are free to pack up and leave. 

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