utenation Posted May 8, 2024 Share Posted May 8, 2024 On 5/8/2024 at 4:32 PM, robe said: Were you surprise when he signed today. 2021 revenue came out BYU had 106 million Utah had $110 million. How much more do you anticipate BYU making over Utah with P5 money BYU will now be getting especially since they were basically identical in 2021 when BYU wasn’t in a conference. According to you BYU made peanuts with its TV contract. So we must be about to get a massive revenue increase You poor little guy. Always looking over your shoulder to see what Utah's doing. 2021 revenue? Really? LOL. Did you mean 22/23 revenue? It looks like BYU is getting big buck donations from the LDS church to supplement their budget. Football only made $47 million and hoops was good at $16.6. The revenue from you rev sports was only $74 million which is just above MWC level. Meanwhile, Utah made $92.5 million in football last year which is in the top 15. And we had a budget of $126 million. Hoops was about $16.6 million. BYU is getting baby revenue shares for a few more years, so it's going to take you a lot longer than you think to catch up. With your honor code restrictions, you won't be able to get very many good athletes in there no matter the revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCoug Posted May 9, 2024 Share Posted May 9, 2024 On 5/8/2024 at 5:15 PM, utenation said: You poor little guy. Always looking over your shoulder to see what Utah's doing. 2021 revenue? Really? LOL. Did you mean 22/23 revenue? It looks like BYU is getting big buck donations from the LDS church to supplement their budget. Football only made $47 million and hoops was good at $16.6. The revenue from you rev sports was only $74 million which is just above MWC level. Meanwhile, Utah made $92.5 million in football last year which is in the top 15. And we had a budget of $126 million. Hoops was about $16.6 million. BYU is getting baby revenue shares for a few more years, so it's going to take you a lot longer than you think to catch up. With your honor code restrictions, you won't be able to get very many good athletes in there no matter the revenue. BYU only gets “baby revenue shares” for one more year. They are a full participant beginning with the new media deal in 2025. Only 2 years of partial shares for BYU, not the 8 or so years of table scraps until a full payday like Utah got from the PAC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted May 9, 2024 Share Posted May 9, 2024 On 5/8/2024 at 8:38 PM, NorCalCoug said: BYU only gets “baby revenue shares” for one more year. They are a full participant beginning with the new media deal in 2025. Only 2 years of partial shares for BYU, not the 8 or so years of table scraps until a full payday like Utah got from the PAC. Don’t forget about the billions Ryan Smith gives to his employees that are somehow jointly working as BYU coaches according to @robe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalCoug Posted May 9, 2024 Share Posted May 9, 2024 On 5/8/2024 at 8:50 PM, utenation said: Don’t forget about the billions Ryan Smith gives to his employees that are somehow jointly working as BYU coaches according to @robe. That’s just gravy…. GRAAAAAVYYYYY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted May 9, 2024 Share Posted May 9, 2024 On 5/8/2024 at 9:21 PM, NorCalCoug said: That’s just gravy…. GRAAAAAVYYYYY! In all seriousness, I think BYU will settle into the top half of the B12 on budget. It won’t take you long to get there. More people, sponsors and businesses want to hitch their wagon to you when you have a P4 nametag. Better Nike deals etc. I’m not an expert on LES, I know you have suites in the press box tower but I think it would be sweet to add more bells and whistles and creature comforts with premium seating in the end zones. Maybe something along the top edge like OSU’s Boone Pickens stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robe Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 On 5/8/2024 at 6:15 PM, utenation said: You poor little guy. Always looking over your shoulder to see what Utah's doing. 2021 revenue? Really? LOL. Did you mean 22/23 revenue? It looks like BYU is getting big buck donations from the LDS church to supplement their budget. Football only made $47 million and hoops was good at $16.6. The revenue from you rev sports was only $74 million which is just above MWC level. Meanwhile, Utah made $92.5 million in football last year which is in the top 15. And we had a budget of $126 million. Hoops was about $16.6 million. BYU is getting baby revenue shares for a few more years, so it's going to take you a lot longer than you think to catch up. With your honor code restrictions, you won't be able to get very many good athletes in there no matter the revenue. Something very strange going on at BYU. They have offered 2 players over a million dollars in NIL money. Some Ero player and another kid. BYU has the 24 rank class and if they land the rumors will be in the top 10. They are offering more than the blue bloods according to multi sources. The original article talked about the multi million dollar investment Ryan Smith made in BYU basketball. I’m guessing it was a massive NIL investment. What are your thoughts? A much different way of doing things at BYU for sure. Quote The Masters 5k road race All American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgaucho Posted May 23, 2024 Share Posted May 23, 2024 My thoughts @robe, are that we are starting to see the recruiting results of BYU jumping into a bigger conference at just the right time. And - getting a new head coach who's fresh off an NBA season, who's also worked with some of the big names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd Posted May 24, 2024 Share Posted May 24, 2024 On 5/22/2024 at 5:01 PM, robe said: Something very strange going on at BYU. They have offered 2 players over a million dollars in NIL money. Some Ero player and another kid. BYU has the 24 rank class and if they land the rumors will be in the top 10. They are offering more than the blue bloods according to multi sources. The original article talked about the multi million dollar investment Ryan Smith made in BYU basketball. I’m guessing it was a massive NIL investment. What are your thoughts? A much different way of doing things at BYU for sure. Wow, pretty crazy. NIL provides the opportunity for new blue bloods to arise. Programs with more donor money can buy results in a much more direct way than in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver-Poke Posted May 25, 2024 Share Posted May 25, 2024 On 5/22/2024 at 5:01 PM, robe said: Something very strange going on at BYU. They have offered 2 players over a million dollars in NIL money. Some Ero player and another kid. BYU has the 24 rank class and if they land the rumors will be in the top 10. They are offering more than the blue bloods according to multi sources. The original article talked about the multi million dollar investment Ryan Smith made in BYU basketball. I’m guessing it was a massive NIL investment. What are your thoughts? A much different way of doing things at BYU for sure. It takes big money to get players to move to Provo, give up sex, give up Coke, keep their hair short and tithe 10% of their NIL money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelado Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 On 5/25/2024 at 12:44 PM, Beaver-Poke said: It takes big money to get players to move to Provo, give up sex (if unmarried), give up Coke, keep their hair short neatly trimmed and tithe 10% of their NIL money (if they are members of the CoJCoLDS). fify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaztecs Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/25/2024 at 12:44 PM, Beaver-Poke said: It takes big money to get players to move to Provo, give up sex, give up Coke, keep their hair short and tithe 10% of their NIL money. Let's not forget they are also required to be clean shaven. No beards. Quote "We don't have evidence but, we have lot's of theories." Americans Mayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renoskier Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/30/2024 at 7:24 AM, Spaztecs said: Let's not forget they are also required to be clean shaven. No beards. what's BYU's policy on tattoos? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/29/2024 at 3:13 PM, Pelado said: fify lol. Whew.. now that you fixed it. It’s suddenly clear that a normal college kid can go live it up at BYU. C’mon man. I’ve always said kids should know what they’re getting into signing on the dotted line in Provo. But there is really no fixing what most people think from the outside. Lol at an 18 year old just trying to get laid on campus being told by another 18 year old girl that they have to get married first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmartigan Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/8/2024 at 5:15 PM, utenation said: You poor little guy. Always looking over your shoulder to see what Utah's doing. 2021 revenue? Really? LOL. Did you mean 22/23 revenue? It looks like BYU is getting big buck donations from the LDS church to supplement their budget. Football only made $47 million and hoops was good at $16.6. The revenue from you rev sports was only $74 million which is just above MWC level. Meanwhile, Utah made $92.5 million in football last year which is in the top 15. And we had a budget of $126 million. Hoops was about $16.6 million. BYU is getting baby revenue shares for a few more years, so it's going to take you a lot longer than you think to catch up. With your honor code restrictions, you won't be able to get very many good athletes in there no matter the revenue. Yeesh. Utah is the only team in the top 15 not in the BIG or SEC. Pretty clear who the haves are conference wise these days. Quote There are only two things I can't stand in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Monty Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/22/2024 at 5:01 PM, robe said: Something very strange going on at BYU. They have offered 2 players over a million dollars in NIL money. Some Ero player and another kid. BYU has the 24 rank class and if they land the rumors will be in the top 10. They are offering more than the blue bloods according to multi sources. The original article talked about the multi million dollar investment Ryan Smith made in BYU basketball. I’m guessing it was a massive NIL investment. What are your thoughts? A much different way of doing things at BYU for sure. Schools like Gonzaga and BYU seem to focusing on recruiting more and more European and African players Gonzaga had a few NBA first round players from Europe and Japan over the past few years. for BYU, maybe these guys will follow the BYU restrictions and are less bothered than a typical American jock not sure if it will work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Monty Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 Basketball is such an international sport crazy to thank that the two best NBA players right now are white guys from Europe, who aren't the most athletic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/30/2024 at 9:01 AM, Motown Monty said: Basketball is such an international sport crazy to thank that the two best NBA players right now are white guys from Europe, who aren't the most athletic More than just the top 2. Just looking at this seasons VORP rating (Value over Replacement Player) which is a pretty solid advanced stat metric; the top 5 players in the NBA are international players: 1. Nikola Jokic(10.6) 2. Luka Doncic(8.0) 3. Giannis Antetokounmpo(7.2) 4. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander(7.1) 5. Domantas Sabonis(6.2) LeBron James and Jalen Brunson are next on the list and the best American players at 5.4 each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelado Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/30/2024 at 9:34 AM, utenation said: lol. Whew.. now that you fixed it. It’s suddenly clear that a normal college kid can go live it up at BYU. C’mon man. I’ve always said kids should know what they’re getting into signing on the dotted line in Provo. But there is really no fixing what most people think from the outside. Lol at an 18 year old just trying to get laid on campus being told by another 18 year old girl that they have to get married first. BYU's Honor Code is onerous enough for the average young adult (especially male) that there's no need to exaggerate its effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/30/2024 at 1:13 PM, Pelado said: BYU's Honor Code is onerous enough for the average young adult (especially male) that there's no need to exaggerate its effect. Or minimize it. Likewise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robe Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/30/2024 at 11:00 AM, Motown Monty said: Schools like Gonzaga and BYU seem to focusing on recruiting more and more European and African players Gonzaga had a few NBA first round players from Europe and Japan over the past few years. for BYU, maybe these guys will follow the BYU restrictions and are less bothered than a typical American jock not sure if it will work out. It looks like BYU has decided to become elite in basketball. I’m concerned about the football team. BYU is going to pay 3 to 4 players a million plus each year in basketball. Recruits brought in. 1 mormon 4 star 1 European 2 mill per year 5 star 2 black player one 4 star the other a 5 star who didn’t qualify for admission 1 black transfer who was highly sought after Young ran off Waterman who started last year. At least it was hinted that way by BYUtv. BYU has a a million or so to dole out to another high prize recruit since the 5 star couldn’t make it into BYU. I’m sure he won’t be member. to be honest I’m not sure how I feel and I’ve seen a number of highly recruited players not pan out. BYU will not be a bunch of Mormon boys anymore. BYU has the money to compete with anyone in the country now. Seems weird and I wouldn’t have believed it a month ago. I don’t think they will invest in the football program like they are basketball. 1 Quote The Masters 5k road race All American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...