2024 General Election

[UNLV2001]

[UNLV2001]

https://x.com/i/status/1795995182753595708

Trump press secretary says their Project 2025 agenda will seek “revenge” on those who oppose Trump, adding that criticizing Trump is a “crime” that requires “justice”

[UNLV2001]

[818SUDSFan]

On 5/30/2024 at 11:37 AM, UNLV2001 said:

Has anybody heard the over/under amount that Vegas has put on the cost to Trump for catch and kill on this one?

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On 5/30/2024 at 8:04 AM, CV147 said:

LP Chair McArdle on voting for Trump:

 

The LP has become an abject joke. A "Libertarian" calling for an authoritarian to be elected as President proves that point, 

[FresnoFacts]

On 5/30/2024 at 8:04 AM, CV147 said:

LP Chair McArdle on voting for Trump:

 

 

McArdle is part of the group that has wanted to remake the party into a right-wing party. Two years ago she said:

 

 

[Nevada Convert]

On 5/30/2024 at 11:37 AM, UNLV2001 said:

Dude, if this were really on tape it would’ve been leaked years ago.

[toonkee]

@grandjean87

 

 

[grandjean87]

On 5/31/2024 at 3:15 PM, toonkee said:

@grandjean87

 

 

The border and fetty are issues of high/broad interest. 

[Spaztecs]

In 2016 Trump argued that Hillary should be prevented from running because she was under indictment. Yet, that argument doesn't apply to him now.

https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1796553224293589011

[818SUDSFan]

On 6/1/2024 at 6:07 AM, Spaztecs said:

In 2016 Trump argued that Hillary should be prevented from running because she was under indictment. Yet, that argument doesn't apply to him now.

https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1796553224293589011

It's Trump who should be locked up. And in a sense, he just might be.

My understanding is Merchan's gag order stands until Trump's sentencing on July 11. In the meantime, Mr. Grumpy continues to skirt the order in an effort to prove to his base that he still has brass balls. It's very doubtful Merchan will place Trump behind bars but he could apparently sentence the guy's fat ass to house arrest.

[UNLV2001]

On 6/1/2024 at 6:07 AM, Spaztecs said:

In 2016 Trump argued that Hillary should be prevented from running because she was under indictment. Yet, that argument doesn't apply to him now.

https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1796553224293589011

Everything with the LOSS is:

When it goes against him , it's RIGGED, FIXED, THEY ARE OUT TO GET ME, NOT MY FAULT, WITCH HUNT, & on & on & on

When the LOSS gets a win it's because he's the greatest & bestest with vast talent & ability 

His suckers buy the above to the hilt 

[Nevada Convert]

On 6/1/2024 at 5:11 PM, UNLV2001 said:

Everything with the LOSS is:

When it goes against him , it's RIGGED, FIXED, THEY ARE OUT TO GET ME, NOT MY FAULT, WITCH HUNT, & on & on & on

When the LOSS gets a win it's because he's the greatest & bestest with vast talent & ability 

His suckers buy the above to the hilt 

Biden is now losing ground fast in New York. He’s only up 6 points. Only 6 points in NY!!!

The Dems need an interdiction quick. Trump is leading in every battleground state now. 

[Spaztecs]

On 6/2/2024 at 4:36 AM, Nevada Convert said:

Biden is now losing ground fast in New York. He’s only up 6 points. Only 6 points in NY!!!

The Dems need an interdiction quick. Trump is leading in every battleground state now. 

Im not sure how you and the Trump leaning Electorate believe Joe Biden is behind this conviction.

You folks see lefty conspiracies behind every object.

[grandjean87]

This is, despite the tight polling, is not good news for Trump: 

Forty-nine percent (49%) of independents think former president Donald Trump should end his presidential campaign in the wake of his felony conviction, according to a new poll.

The poll, from Morning Consult, found that 15 percent of Republicans believe Trump should drop out of the race now that he’s been convicted on 34 felony counts for falsifying business records.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/almost-half-of-independents-say-trump-should-drop-out-after-conviction-new-poll-finds/

[Nevada Convert]

On 6/2/2024 at 7:31 AM, Spaztecs said:

Im not sure how you and the Trump leaning Electorate believe Joe Biden is behind this conviction.

You folks see lefty conspiracies behind every object.

Your brain has turned into MAGA GQP mush. Of course all Dems aren’t working together with Biden in some organized effort. It’s a bunch of people working independently trying to get him. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 6/2/2024 at 8:17 AM, grandjean87 said:

This is, despite the tight polling, is not good news for Trump: 

Forty-nine percent (49%) of independents think former president Donald Trump should end his presidential campaign in the wake of his felony conviction, according to a new poll.

The poll, from Morning Consult, found that 15 percent of Republicans believe Trump should drop out of the race now that he’s been convicted on 34 felony counts for falsifying business records.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/almost-half-of-independents-say-trump-should-drop-out-after-conviction-new-poll-finds/

It’s really hard to say. How many of those Independents weren’t going to vote for Trump anyway, and what are the numbers in battleground states? 

Haley voters make up about 20% of the GOP right now, and Trump hasn’t tried to get any of them back. So 15% or more of the never Trumpers were never going to vote for him. 

Hopefully it hurts Trump in battleground states, but I’ll believe it when I see it. With appeals coming, this may just be a temporary opinion, anyway. When you have Mitt Romney coming out yesterday bashing Bragg for even bringing this case, that’s surprised a lot of people. 

[818SUDSFan]

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-suffers-polling-blow-after-guilty-verdict-1907112

Of the 2,220 registered voters, 51 percent said Trump should end his presidential campaign, while 43 percent said he should not. The majority of Republicans surveyed in the poll (79 percent) believe Trump should not drop out, however, 15 percent said he should. Meanwhile, 87 percent of Trump supporters don't want him to end his campaign while 8 percent do. There were 977 Trump supporters surveyed.

Out of the independents surveyed, 49 percent believe Trump should end his campaign, while 41 percent believe he should not. 

I'm among the 49% of independents who thinks Mr. Grumpy shouldn't end his campaign. That's because the momentum is shifting against Trump rather than in favor of Biden so if the Republicans would run a non-MAGAT against Uncle Joe, they could win the presidency. However, that non-MAGAT would still be a policy lunatic like DeSantis.

Stay the course, Crooked Don! Stay the course!

[grandjean87]

Similar polling on trial fairness.  A majority of indies think the trial was fair.  Party members about as divided as expected.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4699168-majority-of-independents-say-trump-received-fair-trial-poll/

Long term, I doubt the convictions by themselves really move the needle. For that one Air Force fan that means it probably won't matter much either way.  

 

[grandjean87]

https://x.com/threadreaderapp/status/1796888231557923282?s=46&t=UoI8YN4izCZ9WWyT63rcbg
 

10 post thread by David Frum.  The last two copied below.  Election churn (different voters in different elections) will be different in '24, but his take is that the convictions will matter and the implication is to strategize on it.  Among the 25% of voters in '20 that didn't vote in '16, Biden won by almost 2-1.  That's a key group to target.  Anti-Trump leaning indies and a (small) segment of Rs.  Enough in a close race?  I think other issues will loom large, but the polling on indies since the verdict seem to comport. 

9) The group "not especially pro-Biden, but strongly anti-Trump" probably don't respond favorably to the policies used to herd the first group of straying cats: student debt relief, etc. But I bet they respond very strongly to being reminded why they so disliked Donald Trump.

10) Trump's conviction on 34 felony counts - on top of his other pending criminal trials and the civil trials for defamation and fraud - act powerfully to push "not especially pro-Biden, but strongly anti-Trump" back into the Biden camp. That's why it matters so much. END.