Best US Presidents Tournament: Preliminary Round

[grandjean87]

On 11/27/2023 at 9:58 PM, bsu_alum9 said:

How do you rank a guy like Thos. Jefferson? Well respected president, but DNA evidence proves he was a pedo rapist? And you could maybe argue any manifest destiny president pre-WW1 more evil than Don Cheeto.
 

I feel like there are actually very few guys you could put top 10 with a clear conscience.

Rate as president in action and  influence. Toss all presentism away.  Also, get the difference in power of the presidency in very different eras. 

[Nevada Convert]

On 11/20/2023 at 2:09 PM, renoskier said:

where did you find this...

it's gonna require a little research...

I might learn something

so...you can count out Bob, Jackrabbit, and Convert

Great, we get to find out who the best presidents are from a lefty perspective. Boing!!

[Spaztecs]

On 11/28/2023 at 4:33 AM, Nevada Convert said:

Great, we get to find out who the best presidents are from a lefty perspective. Boing!!

 

Another win for Centrism.

I'm certain you have DJT at the top of your list.

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Alright, I'm calling this round good. 

Next voting threads will be up later today. 

[bsu_alum9]

On 11/27/2023 at 9:27 PM, grandjean87 said:

Toss all presentism away.  

Sorry but don’t think getting away with raping a 14-year old is presentism. 

[ripple effect]

Just wondering when the MWC Board Brass here will get their cease and desist letter from the TIFTIOSS in regards to the “rigged” voting by the Harding supporters here. Let the violent rhetoric against these folks begin… because it’s a 1st Amendment thing and all, don’t you know…

[grandjean87]

On 11/28/2023 at 10:01 AM, bsu_alum9 said:

Sorry but don’t think getting away with raping a 14-year old is presentism. 

So, you think this just for fun votr thing is about the individual morality of past presidents? That's fine.  I'll go w/historical effects in office w/o presentism.  If not, pickings are slim until the 13th-15th Amendments and then some. 

[IanforHeisman]

On 11/28/2023 at 10:01 AM, ripple effect said:

Just wondering when the MWC Board Brass here will get their cease and desist letter from the TIFTIOSS in regards to the “rigged” voting by the Harding supporters here. Let the violent rhetoric against these folks begin… because it’s a 1st Amendment thing and all, don’t you know…

We should organize a peaceful protest over the rigged voting process.. does January 6th at Best Buy work for you?

[bsu_alum9]

On 11/28/2023 at 9:46 AM, grandjean87 said:

So, you think this just for fun votr thing is about the individual morality of past presidents? That's fine.  I'll go w/historical effects in office w/o presentism.  If not, pickings are slim until the 13th-15th Amendments and then some. 

You honestly think TFG is the worst historically then? Seems quite recency biased. We’ve had some pretty terrible ones. 

[grandjean87]

On 11/28/2023 at 12:10 PM, bsu_alum9 said:

You honestly think TFG is the worst historically then? Seems quite recency biased. We’ve had some pretty terrible ones. 

Like I said before, when he's dead I'll cut him some slack. 

Far, far, far worse than the only guy to resign from the office does, however, put you in contention.  

[just_chris]

On 11/27/2023 at 7:26 PM, Spaztecs said:

How can one choose between Pierce and Buchanan ? They should be removed from the competition.

Both were horrible Presidents, pro slavers, and only worsened the rift between North and South. Pierce supported the Fugitive Slave Act fer chrissakes.

Not shockingly I was such a +++++ up when I was younger I was contacted multiple times about going to Franklin Pierce University which as you may have guessed is one of the worst colleges in New England and the Northeast  

[just_chris]

On 11/28/2023 at 11:10 AM, bsu_alum9 said:

You honestly think TFG is the worst historically then? Seems quite recency biased. We’ve had some pretty terrible ones. 

I'm almost 50 and he is probably the worst of my lifetime maybe outside of Carter but carter gets the nod for me since he turned out to be such a good human being. 

You're right, we've had some horrific ones... Harding and Hoover jump out. Andrew Johnson and James Buchanan as well. Some useless ones like John Tyler, and Martin Van Buren and ones who gave us great comic strips like Millard Fillmore 

[Spaztecs]

On 11/28/2023 at 6:54 PM, just_chris said:

I'm almost 50 and he is probably the worst of my lifetime maybe outside of Carter but carter gets the nod for me since he turned out to be such a good human being. 

You're right, we've had some horrific ones... Harding and Hoover jump out. Andrew Johnson and James Buchanan as well. Some useless ones like John Tyler, and Martin Van Buren and ones who gave us great comic strips like Millard Fillmore 

That's Mallard Fillmore to us-ins