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On 4/4/2024 at 5:44 PM, UNLV2001 said:

Including fixed seats, lawn and standing room, Sutter Health Park currently holds a capacity of 14,014. The ballpark recently underwent renovations to update its clubhouses and batting cages. More updates and additions to the stadium’s facilities are expected as the A’s look to bring it up to Major League standards.

 

Being reported in Sacramento that the additional facility updates include new LED lighting and an additional clubhouse.

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On 4/4/2024 at 4:55 PM, 818SUDSFan said:

If only the A's had one.

Ironically, I would have zero knowledge if they had one or not.  I haven’t paid any attention to MLB at all in over 25 years despite working in the front office for a MLB team for several years. I’ve several friends who I’ve worked with who subsequently won World Series as presidents and GM’s and were considered personnel geniuses, who were not. The whole money ball book and movie was a total sham.  Billy bean was the LAST guy in MLB who used data.  A guy I worked with was the very first baseball ops guy to ever incorporate it yet his name is probably missing from the “money ball” book and movie.   

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On 4/4/2024 at 6:38 PM, FresnoFacts said:

 

Being reported in Sacramento that the additional facility updates include new LED lighting and an additional clubhouse.

Well with 14K ballpark, the stadium will not look like a ghost town vs what their leaving. It might be a refresh look for team as whole to have a stadium 3/4 full. Kinda like when the Chargers filled their seats when they were playing in Carson for the first few years when SoFi was being built. Granted their new stadium is not going to be a huge stadium either when it's built. Now wondering what the City of Oakland going to do with such a empty hole with the Coliseum besides being just a Bart Station transfer point to get to SFO. I guess the old Oracle will just be for concerts. Maybe the Coliseum can be converted to a MLS stadium in the future?

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On 4/4/2024 at 11:56 PM, smithy said:

Well with 14K ballpark, the stadium will not look like a ghost town vs what their leaving. It might be a refresh look for team as whole to have a stadium 3/4 full. Kinda like when the Chargers filled their seats when they were playing in Carson for the first few years when SoFi was being built. Granted their new stadium is not going to be a huge stadium either when it's built. Now wondering what the City of Oakland going to do with such a empty hole with the Coliseum besides being just a Bart Station transfer point to get to SFO. I guess the old Oracle will just be for concerts. Maybe the Coliseum can be converted to a MLS stadium in the future?

The place is a dump.  Tear it down and build something useful there.  

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Probably to most travelled franchise;

Philadelphia

Kansas City

Oakland

Las Vegas

Baseball is different.  It takes decades to build a passionate fanbase but fans, for the most part don't travel all that well. Dodger filth coming down to SD to watch a game in a real ballpark being the exception.

It will be interesting to see if this becomes a Tampa/ Miami situation or if the locals adopt the team and show up in numbers 81 games/yr.

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I think this could work for the A's simply because I think visiting fans will bring enough butts in seats to justify staying in Vegas awhile. The stadium being climate controlled and the season occurring during peak tourism time in LV will see to that.

That said, I don't see Vegas locals taking to the A's. They're a transplant team in a city where much of the population is already married to another franchise.

If a MLB team really wanted a foothold with the Vegas locals, they'd have needed to create an expansion team like the Golden Knights. Fans (both native and transplant) will support a team they can start with on day one.

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Aviator fans will naturally follow the A's to continue to keep track of thr players they are familiar with.  That local base along with the travelling opposition fans will ensure the A's will do just fine in Vegas, attendance-wise.

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On 4/5/2024 at 10:32 AM, RedheadRebel said:

I think this could work for the A's simply because I think visiting fans will bring enough butts in seats to justify staying in Vegas awhile. The stadium being climate controlled and the season occurring during peak tourism time in LV will see to that.

That said, I don't see Vegas locals taking to the A's. They're a transplant team in a city where much of the population is already married to another franchise.

If a MLB team really wanted a foothold with the Vegas locals, they'd have needed to create an expansion team like the Golden Knights. Fans (both native and transplant) will support a team they can start with on day one.

You nailed it. It's going to work for Fisher and he doesn't deserve squat. Vegas doesn't deserve him. The A's used to be my American League team I would root for. As long as John Fisher is the owner, The A's can stay in the basement and lock the door as far as I'm concerned. Vegas would have been better off with an expansion team. 

 

 

 

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On 4/4/2024 at 5:44 PM, UNLV2001 said:

https://www.mlb.com/athletics/news/a-s-announce-2025-27-stadium-plans

The move was announced in partnership with the NBA's Sacramento Kings, who are also the majority owner of the River Cats. The agreement includes an option to also play the 2028 season in Sacramento should the stadium in Las Vegas not be completed by its expected opening date.

“We extend our appreciation to the Kings and the city of West Sacramento,” said Fisher. “And look forward to making Sutter Health Park our home until our new ballpark opens in Las Vegas.”

Including fixed seats, lawn and standing room, Sutter Health Park currently holds a capacity of 14,014. The ballpark recently underwent renovations to update its clubhouses and batting cages. More updates and additions to the stadium’s facilities are expected as the A’s look to bring it up to Major League standards.

We’ll see. A ton of players are not happy and it appears as if a grievance by the union is going to be filed. 

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On 4/5/2024 at 1:56 AM, smithy said:

Well with 14K ballpark, the stadium will not look like a ghost town vs what their leaving. It might be a refresh look for team as whole to have a stadium 3/4 full. Kinda like when the Chargers filled their seats when they were playing in Carson for the first few years when SoFi was being built. Granted their new stadium is not going to be a huge stadium either when it's built. Now wondering what the City of Oakland going to do with such a empty hole with the Coliseum besides being just a Bart Station transfer point to get to SFO. I guess the old Oracle will just be for concerts. Maybe the Coliseum can be converted to a MLS stadium in the future?

Sacramento is a good baseball town. I remember the Rivercats used to get higher attendance than a couple MLB teams.

 

I think Sacramento will really support the A's, and I really wish the MLB would consider Sacramento for expansion. Sacramento's big issue will always be lack of corporate money. I believe it's the largest city in the US without a fortune 500 headquarters. It's all about the State of California. 

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On 4/9/2024 at 4:44 AM, bigd said:

Sacramento is a good baseball town. I remember the Rivercats used to get higher attendance than a couple MLB teams.

 

I think Sacramento will really support the A's, and I really wish the MLB would consider Sacramento for expansion. Sacramento's big issue will always be lack of corporate money. I believe it's the largest city in the US without a fortune 500 headquarters. It's all about the State of California. 

Yeah I agree on Sac being a better fit for the As.  Or SLC.  Both towns need another pro franchise and would probably love to have them.  With LV, it would basically just be to fill rooms and casinos with opposing team fans.

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If Sacramento upgrades the stadium and supports the team there's a chance the A's never see Las Vegas. Much cheaper to upgrade that stadium to a 32,000-seat venue than building a billion-dollar desert boondoggle. 

Again, the A's problem is ownership, ownership, ownership. True in Philadelphia, true in Kansas City and true in Oakland.

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On 4/4/2024 at 11:56 PM, smithy said:

Well with 14K ballpark, the stadium will not look like a ghost town vs what their leaving. It might be a refresh look for team as whole to have a stadium 3/4 full. Kinda like when the Chargers filled their seats when they were playing in Carson for the first few years when SoFi was being built. Granted their new stadium is not going to be a huge stadium either when it's built. Now wondering what the City of Oakland going to do with such an empty hole with the Coliseum besides being just a Bart Station transfer point to get to SFO. I guess the old Oracle will just be for concerts. Maybe the Coliseum can be converted to a MLS stadium in the future?

Turn it into a port a potty for all the homeless to shit in

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On 4/9/2024 at 11:34 AM, Beaver-Poke said:

If Sacramento upgrades the stadium and supports the team there's a chance the A's never see Las Vegas. Much cheaper to upgrade that stadium to a 32,000-seat venue than building a billion-dollar desert boondoggle. 

Again, the A's problem is ownership, ownership, ownership. True in Philadelphia, true in Kansas City and true in Oakland.

True in Denver!!!

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On 4/9/2024 at 10:34 AM, Beaver-Poke said:

If Sacramento upgrades the stadium and supports the team there's a chance the A's never see Las Vegas. Much cheaper to upgrade that stadium to a 32,000-seat venue than building a billion-dollar desert boondoggle. 

Again, the A's problem is ownership, ownership, ownership. True in Philadelphia, true in Kansas City and true in Oakland.

 

My understanding is Sutter Health Park was not designed to add a second-level deck so some extra work needed for an expansion.

The West Sacramento stadium does sit on a larger site than the Tropicana site stadium.

But isn't Sacramento's old Arco Park baseball stadium site planned by Luckenbill still sitting empty? The A's or another MLB team could look into that location in the future. I don't know the current status or plans for that site.

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On 4/9/2024 at 12:14 PM, FresnoFacts said:

 

My understanding is Sutter Health Park was not designed to add a second-level deck so some extra work needed for an expansion.

The West Sacramento stadium does sit on a larger site than the Tropicana site stadium.

But isn't Sacramento's old Arco Park baseball stadium site planned by Luckenbill still sitting empty? The A's or another MLB team could look into that location in the future. I don't know the current status or plans for that site.

I don't think Sacramento ever gets an expansion team. This might be their best chance. Do it right and the A's might never leave; Vegas doesn't really seem to want them and Sacramento is reasonably close to their existing fan base. It also keeps them in the Pacific Time Zone (so does Vegas, obviously).

The AAA stadium that is most MLB-ready is Sahlen Field in Buffalo, thanks to the millions the Jays sunk into it to make it MLB-ready when they played there in 2021 and 2022. Of course, temporarily shifting the A's back to the East Coast would have wreaked havoc with the schedule. 

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On 4/9/2024 at 3:22 PM, Beaver-Poke said:

 Of course, temporarily shifting the A's back to the East Coast would have wreaked havoc with the schedule. 

Not so much now. Starting last year teams began playing balanced schedules and you face every other Major League team at least once a season. 

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