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FBI Director: Antisemitism now at historic levels

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On 11/22/2023 at 9:29 AM, bornontheblue said:

They already tried that many times, and even offered Palestine their own sovereignty. Palestine instead decided to elect terrorists. Choices>>>Consequences. 
Maybe this time they will learn , but I doubt it. 

Get off the sticks kid and let the adults talk…lol

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On 11/22/2023 at 9:30 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

You ever forgive Israel for not bombing that hospital?

As was pointed out weeks ago I never commented on that…lol

when did you move to the UES?…lol

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On 11/17/2023 at 10:22 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

You are such a +++++ing idiot.  

You can not even define fascism let alone neofascism.  Which was always my point.  You don't +++++ing know what fascism is, you throw that word around with abandon.

Yer a +++++ing retard who is so +++++ing easily duped it is terrifying.  I don't need to point out all your +++++ing retarded takes.  We all see them.  Yer soooooooooooooooo dumb.

I have no respect for you anymore.  None.  You are not a smart man.  You are conspiracy delving worst type of person.  You are evil.  You are disgusting.  You spread evil.  +++++ you, you Nazi bitch.

This post is not a productive use of your time.

I get it, Sactowndog has sent me over the edge a time or three as well.

I agree this crazy conspiracy theory that Netanyahu allowed this so he could invade Gaza is crazy Jew hating madness.  You can't change his warped world view though, so why get worked up and waste your time.

The weird thing is you can have people that are perfectly functional in day to day society, and even friendly to chat with, and then when you talk politics with them they are wingnut crazy.  I've got friends like that on both the right and left.  Every time I have ever engaged with them, I've regretted it, even when they goated me into it.

 

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On 11/22/2023 at 8:03 AM, SAMO said:

Do tell…how does one “dress like a terrorist”…lol

 

You want to pretend these people aren't pro Hamas and inspired by Hamas terrorists?  Go ahead.  It's like these people that say I'm not an anti semite, I'm just anti Israeli, and then when you talk to them they don't think Israel has a right to exist.  Sorry, you can't call for the destruction of the only Jewish nation on Earth and claim not to be antisemitic.

Israeli police clash with Palestinian protesters at sensitive Jerusalem holy site | Fox News

 

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On 11/22/2023 at 10:33 AM, CPslograd said:

You want to pretend these people aren't pro Hamas and inspired by Hamas terrorists?  Go ahead.  It's like these people that say I'm not an anti semite, I'm just anti Israeli, and then when you talk to them they don't think Israel has a right to exist.  Sorry, you can't call for the destruction of the only Jewish nation on Earth and claim not to be antisemitic.

Israeli police clash with Palestinian protesters at sensitive Jerusalem holy site | Fox News

 

Just to be clear I am anti Likud as Bibi is as bad or worse than Trump.  I’ve made my call we shall see how it plays out and who was correct in due time.  
 

At no point have I ever stated that Israel doesn’t have the right to exist.  

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The extensive West Bank settlements built in the past 3 decades have made a two state solution much harder to achieve, I do think the US should have withheld aide to Israel at various times over the construction of settlements.  The irony is elements of the hard right like Pat Buchanan supported witholding aid over that, as did some of the far left.  But there was no appetite for it in the political middle.

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On 11/22/2023 at 10:37 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

But they didn't.  They returned fire on those on those attacking them from inside the campus.  They didn't "bomb" anything 

 

Ok Mr UES whatever you say…lol

 

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On 11/22/2023 at 10:33 AM, CPslograd said:

You want to pretend these people aren't pro Hamas and inspired by Hamas terrorists?  Go ahead.  It's like these people that say I'm not an anti semite, I'm just anti Israeli, and then when you talk to them they don't think Israel has a right to exist.  Sorry, you can't call for the destruction of the only Jewish nation on Earth and claim not to be antisemitic.

Israeli police clash with Palestinian protesters at sensitive Jerusalem holy site | Fox News

 

If we advocated for the Vatican to lose its status as a country, would we be anti-Christian/Catholics?  We need to be able to parse how we view religious hate with governmental hate.  The fact they are so intertwined should be our lead example why we cannot let that happen to our country.

And no, I am not advocating for Isreal or Palestine to be eradicated, but if I don't like their governments, that should be fine.

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On 11/22/2023 at 10:33 AM, CPslograd said:

You want to pretend these people aren't pro Hamas and inspired by Hamas terrorists?  Go ahead.  It's like these people that say I'm not an anti semite, I'm just anti Israeli, and then when you talk to them they don't think Israel has a right to exist.  Sorry, you can't call for the destruction of the only Jewish nation on Earth and claim not to be antisemitic.

Israeli police clash with Palestinian protesters at sensitive Jerusalem holy site | Fox News

 

Wearing a keffiyeh is dressing like a terrorist now?…lol

good lord what a bunch of ignorant hicks…I’m out 

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On 11/22/2023 at 11:25 AM, East Coast Aztec said:

If we advocated for the Vatican to lose its status as a country, would we be anti-Christian/Catholics?  We need to be able to parse how we view religious hate with governmental hate.  The fact they are so intertwined should be our lead example why we cannot let that happen to our country.

And no, I am not advocating for Isreal or Palestine to be eradicated, but if I don't like their governments, that should be fine.

Thats two different things.

Opposing various Isreali government policy, is not inherently antisemitism.

Calling for the eradication of the Jewish nation of Israel is antisemitism by definition.  A lot of these pro hamas protesters, when you get to what they really want, it's exactly that.  They want Israel to disappear from the map.

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On 11/22/2023 at 1:37 PM, bornontheblue said:

Upper Midwest white folks are the terrorists? 

What does color have to do with being a Cubs fan?

 

On 11/22/2023 at 1:37 PM, CPslograd said:

Thats two different things.

Opposing various Isreali government policy, is not inherently antisemitism.

Calling for the eradication of the Jewish nation of Israel is antisemitism by definition.  A lot of these pro hamas protesters, when you get to what they really want, it's exactly that.  They want Israel to disappear from the map.

We can just ask them outright:  Do you want Jews gone, or Israel gone.  Saying it is one and the same is inaccurate.  And go the other way, ask them if they want Muslims gone, or Palestine gone.  We have heard discussions of both being wiped out.  Which is why I have been a little bewildered at support for either being such a thing as an outsider.  If they want to eradicate Jews, or eradicate Palestinians, I am not for it.  If they want to F up Hamas for what they did to innocent people, I am for it.  But if Israel does something, and they have before, and they are now, am I supposed to act like any reaction to that is a hate for the religious or ethnic Jew?  No, I just don't like Israeli gov't doing something that we get pissed at Hamas about.  Which is why I don't support either political entity, but will support innocent people of either side, and right now am definitely more pissed at Hamas for their actions that have created this situation.

 

But, I guess I am antisemitic.  Gotta go yell at my Jewish lady, I suppose.  

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