More Portland Stores Closing Due to Theft

[RSF]

On 9/27/2023 at 8:15 PM, TheSanDiegan said:

I think Bob's helmet has two chin straps.

[Bob]

On 9/27/2023 at 5:04 PM, TheSanDiegan said:

I hate it when ideologues force me to defend Bob on principle. 

From the horse's mouth:

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Now, is this sufficient to pin the tail on the donkey?  Of course not.

I am sure a lot went into their calculus in deciding which stores to shutter, but to pretend retail crime - organized and otherwise - is not a real issue when the brick-and-mortars have to work harder to compete against Amazon as it is is just dumb.

From Investopedia:

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Now @Bob, you deliberate dipshit, you f*cktastically intellectually-inhibited inbred c*ntmonkey, if you're going to play the "liberal shithole" card from yer deck of stupid, then I'm throwing down this hand - of the ten states with the highest violent crime rates in the entire nation, 7 of the 10 are run by Republicans. 

So just STFU with yer moronic twatwaddling bullshit already. 

All with democrat controlled major urban areas with democrat policies that account for all the crime

[TheSanDiegan]

On 9/27/2023 at 7:54 PM, Bob said:

All with democrat controlled major urban areas with democrat policies that account for all the crime

Yeah, tell me about all those "major urban areas" in Arkansas and Alaska, dipshit.

[Billings]

On 9/27/2023 at 1:57 PM, SharkTanked said:

The original groomer...

As to the OP, they definitely seem to be targeting the PNW more often than not. Smoke and Fire.

Crime is a huge problem but the west coast is home to major tech and their offices emptied out in the core of the cities.  Just not a lot of people down there anymore with vacancy rates of 50%.

[SalinasSpartan]

On 9/27/2023 at 9:09 AM, Bob said:

Wow. What a liberal crap hole!

https://x.com/fox12oregon/status/1706751159233339642?s=20

https://www.kptv.com/2023/09/26/target-closing-3-portland-stores-citing-theft-organized-retail-crime/

 

 

 

So you just uncritically accept what corporate elites tell you? Interesting.

[Bob]

On 9/27/2023 at 11:58 PM, TheSanDiegan said:

Yeah, tell me about all those "major urban areas" in Arkansas and Alaska, dipshit.

Black people and indians. Two democrat monoliths

[halfmanhalfbronco]

This board has gone full retard.

If you can not admit that Portland's failed liberal policies are outright enabling wide spread theft you are +++++ing retard.  Period.  Full stop.

This is not rocket surgery.  There is no consequence for retail or property crime in Portland.  This means people rob and steal, and it hurts business'.  This is a feature, not a symptom, of failed liberal policies in Portland.  Not admitting that is +++++ing retarded.  You guys, including you happy, are being +++++ing retarded.

 

Here say these words you +++++ing idiots.  "Failed liberal policies are damaging Portland businesses".  The truth hurts, I know, but it will be cathartic.

What a +++++ing echo chamber this place is now. 

[grandjean87]

On 9/28/2023 at 9:21 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

This board has gone full retard.

If you can not admit that Portland's failed liberal policies are outright enabling wide spread theft you are +++++ing retard.  Period.  Full stop.

The R-word is not a good one.  Even when it fits.  It's not just Portland for Target.  And, it's not just Target, it's broader retail from large chains to smaller retail.  And, it goes beyond retail and liberal-run cities.  It's information-organized crime facilitated by ease of info-tech combined with easy targets.  The low statutory penalties in many places put the cost/benefits in favor of the crime.  It's not just liberal city policies although they do not help.  It's in the subculture. 

Social decay beyond this matter, too is widespread.  I remember this kid around 2009 who moved here from Florida. A real white gangster wanna be.  He would makes jokes about the hurricane means it's almost time to go to Walmart.  Nothing funny about looting. But, opportunity for mass crime follows the culture.  In some places now, it's worse.

Solutions?  Build m0ar jails.  Keep locking them up and keep 'em there longer. 

 

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 9/28/2023 at 9:45 AM, grandjean87 said:

The R-word is not a good one.  Even when it fits.  It's not just Portland for Target.  And, it's not just Target, it's broader retail from large chains to smaller retail.  And, it goes beyond retail and liberal-run cities.  It's information-organized crime facilitated by ease of info-tech combined with easy targets.  The low statutory penalties in many places put the cost/benefits in favor of the crime.  It's not just liberal city policies although they do not help.  It's in the subculture. 

Social decay beyond this matter, too is widespread.  I remember this kid around 2009 who moved here from Florida. A real white gangster wanna be.  He would makes jokes about the hurricane means it's almost time to go to Walmart.  Nothing funny about looting. But, opportunity for mass crime follows the culture.  In some places now, it's worse.

Solutions?  Build m0ar jails.  Keep locking them up and keep 'em there longer. 

 

Again, it is not rocket surgery.  And no, it is not just Target.  Ma and pa local shops are being devastated by theft in Portland as well.

Again, it is not rocket surgery.  Portland has decided that funding crime prevention and deterrence is bad, they have also decided that stealing really does not matter, and have decided there should be no consequences for that.

That is enabling theft.  Period.  Full stop.  It's not that hard, guys.  

This board has gone full retard echo chamber, and the Portland theft threads are the proof.

We have everybody in this thread blaming those nasty liars at Target before even admitting that not holding thieves accountable to the law encourages more theft.  This board is INSANE

[Slapdad]

On 9/28/2023 at 10:21 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

This board has gone full retard.

If you can not admit that Portland's failed liberal policies are outright enabling wide spread theft you are +++++ing retard.  Period.  Full stop.

This is not rocket surgery.  There is no consequence for retail or property crime in Portland.  This means people rob and steal, and it hurts business'.  This is a feature, not a symptom, of failed liberal policies in Portland.  Not admitting that is +++++ing retarded.  You guys, including you happy, are being +++++ing retarded.

 

Here say these words you +++++ing idiots.  "Failed liberal policies are damaging Portland businesses".  The truth hurts, I know, but it will be cathartic.

What a +++++ing echo chamber this place is now. 

RACIST!!!

[SharkTanked]

On 9/28/2023 at 9:01 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Again, it is not rocket surgery.  And no, it is not just Target.  Ma and pa local shops are being devastated by theft in Portland as well.

Again, it is not rocket surgery.  Portland has decided that funding crime prevention and deterrence is bad, they have also decided that stealing really does not matter, and have decided there should be no consequences for that.

That is enabling theft.  Period.  Full stop.  It's not that hard, guys.  

This board has gone full retard echo chambers, and the Portland theft threads are the proof.

It certainly seems to be a situation of the pendulum swinging too far in favor of reduced sentencing. Unintended consequences are happening. Now the pendulum is gonna have to swing even further back to break up these retail theft rings. We are seeing a social experiment gone wrong.

Still, I think it is fair to point out there are other underlying issues at the core. Tougher sentencing and more/longer incarceration treats the symptoms, but not the disease. But it does allow pols to go ostrich while ignoring the real issues of poverty and lack of access to basic needs.

[toonkee]

On 9/28/2023 at 9:01 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Again, it is not rocket surgery.  And no, it is not just Target.  Ma and pa local shops are being devastated by theft in Portland as well.

Again, it is not rocket surgery.  Portland has decided that funding crime prevention and deterrence is bad, they have also decided that stealing really does not matter, and have decided there should be no consequences for that.

That is enabling theft.  Period.  Full stop.  It's not that hard, guys.  

This board has gone full retard echo chambers, and the Portland theft threads are the proof.

Let cops be cops again. Crack them heads.

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 9/28/2023 at 10:11 AM, SharkTanked said:

It certainly seems to be a situation of the pendulum swinging too far in favor of reduced sentencing. Unintended consequences are happening. Now the pendulum is gonna have to swing even further back to break up these retail theft rings. We are seeing a social experiment gone wrong.

Still, I think it is fair to point out there are other underlying issues at the core. Tougher sentencing and more/longer incarceration treats the symptoms, but not the disease. But it does allow pols to go ostrich while ignoring the real issues of poverty and lack of access to basic needs.

 

It's pretty +++++ing simple actually.  The entire first two pages of this thread are people pilling up on Bob and going after those liars at Target.

Instead of, oh I dunna, admitting that making a decision to not punish theft will encourage more theft and that Portland's left wing politics are directly contributing to theft in the city.

Not hard.  This board can not do it, though.  Echo...echooooo......echooooooo

[SharkTanked]

On 9/28/2023 at 9:14 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

It's pretty +++++ing simple actually.  The entire first two pages of this thread are people pilling up on Bob and going after those liars at Target.

Instead of, oh I dunna, admitting that making a decision to not punish theft will encourage more theft and that Portland's left wing politics are directly contributing to theft in the city.

Not hard.  This board can not do it, though.  Echo...echooooo......echooooooo

In many cases here, it is more about the messenger than the message.

[grandjean87]

On 9/28/2023 at 10:01 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Again, it is not rocket surgery.  And no, it is not just Target.  Ma and pa local shops are being devastated by theft in Portland as well.

Again, it is not rocket surgery.  Portland has decided that funding crime prevention and deterrence is bad, they have also decided that stealing really does not matter, and have decided there should be no consequences for that.

That is enabling theft.  Period.  Full stop.  It's not that hard, guys.  

This board has gone full retard echo chambers, and the Portland theft threads are the proof.

This isn't news. Well, both things aren't news.  The left wingers here or Portland police/prosecution policies (although there is reactive news this week w/plans to hire more DAs and refund police).  I guess a third thing isn't news.  The R-word is still not good. 

 If you live in a community of people, you have a responsibility to that community.
 Social decay isn't good. If you engage in crime that contributes to social and economic decay you should be sanctioned. Arrest.  Lock 'em up.  Put 'em in tent camps if space is needed. Make them wear purple jumpsuits. Whatever it takes.  

[SalinasSpartan]

On 9/28/2023 at 9:14 AM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

 

It's pretty +++++ing simple actually.  The entire first two pages of this thread are people pilling up on Bob and going after those liars at Target.

Instead of, oh I dunna, admitting that making a decision to not punish theft will encourage more theft and that Portland's left wing politics are directly contributing to theft in the city.

Not hard.  This board can not do it, though.  Echo...echooooo......echooooooo

So why, exactly, did crime spike EVERYWHERE during COVID? And why is it starting to decline again EVERYWHERE? 

[SharkTanked]

On 9/28/2023 at 9:18 AM, grandjean87 said:

This isn't news. Well, both things aren't news.  The left wingers here or Portland police/prosecution policies (although there is reactive news this week w/plans to hire more DAs and refund police).  I guess a third thing isn't news.  The R-word is still not good. 

 If you live in a community of people, you have a responsibility to that community.
 Social decay isn't good. If you engage in crime that contributes to social and economic decay you should be sanctioned. Arrest.  Lock 'em up.  Put 'em in tent camps if space is needed. Make them wear purple jumpsuits. Whatever it takes.  

The bigger problems are the things that contribute to social decay, but are not crimes. They are actually economically encouraged. Wealth disparity and corporate greed. Loss of manufacturing jobs, etc. The system isn't broken, but it needs adjustment.

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 9/28/2023 at 10:12 AM, toonkee said:

Let cops be cops again. Crack them heads.

I just don't get how hard it is for the echo chamber to admit that Portland's left wing politics on crime are damaging businesses.

Instead we had a page and a half of dog pilling Bob and calling Target nasty liars lol

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 9/28/2023 at 10:19 AM, SalinasSpartan said:

So why, exactly, did crime spike EVERYWHERE during COVID? And why is it starting to decline again EVERYWHERE? 

Different topic.  Start a new thread.

[grandjean87]

On 9/28/2023 at 10:19 AM, SalinasSpartan said:

So why, exactly, did crime spike EVERYWHERE during COVID? And why is it starting to decline again EVERYWHERE? 

It's not declining everywhere now that the Covid drop did its thing.  It's different for different categories of crime in different locales. It's also changing over time.