The case against HUNTER !!!! (Biden that is)

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 8/10/2023 at 5:41 PM, grandjean87 said:

Yer comprehension is failing you.  

Nah, when the POTUS has an insane drug addicted crazy kid committing gun crimes and frolicking with foreign entities it's news.

The bush girls were news.  Hunter is news.  If the POTUS is a dog shit father, that is news dude.  And Biden is complete dog shit father who is lucky he does not have the blood of his son and daughter on his hands....+++++ him.  He should have been being a father and grandfather instead of cementing his political legacy.  But he cared more about being President than being a dad.  +++++ him.

 

Imagine being so teams and shit you think the Hunter Biden saga is a bunch of nothing.  Biden is a piece of shit human, father and grandfather only concerned with his own legacy.  +++++ that piece of shit leading the free world.  He is a bad man.  

[grandjean87]

On 8/10/2023 at 5:50 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Nah, when the POTUS has an insane drug addicted crazy kid committing gun crimes and frolicking with foreign entities it's news.

The bush girls were news.  Hunter is news.  If the POTUS is a dog shit father, that is news dude.  And Biden is complete dog shit father who is lucky he does not have the blood of his son and daughter on his hands....+++++ him.  He should have been being a father and grandfather instead of cementing his political legacy.  But he cared more about being President than being a dad.  +++++ him

It's still failing, and your rants have nothing to do with my point.  

 

 

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 8/10/2023 at 6:01 PM, grandjean87 said:

It's still failing, and your rants have nothing to do with my point.  

 

 

I was not aware you made one...

[grandjean87]

On 7/10/2023 at 5:12 PM, UNLV2001 said:

 

Here we are a few years after Bill Barr shopped around for US Attorneys to do Trumps bidding.  It's 5 years out from tax investigations of Hunter which preceded.  Congressional investigations.  Nothing, but what anyone w/half a brain and any curiosity would know.  

Now, we have the House "still investigating".  The committee chairman and others still claiming Joe Biden took bribes from a foreign national based on what can only be called disinformation.  The right wing media echo chamber drum beats this (although there has been some pushback on Fox).  Even the testimony of Hunter's main biz partner produced no evidence evidence.  Onward w/the political goal moving towards impeachment.  It's nuts. 

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 8/10/2023 at 6:23 PM, grandjean87 said:

Here we are a few years after Bill Barr shopped around for US Attorneys to do Trumps bidding.  It's 5 years out from tax investigations of Hunter which preceded.  Congressional investigations.  Nothing, but what anyone w/half a brain and any curiosity would know.  

Now, we have the House "still investigating".  The committee chairman and others still claiming Joe Biden took bribes from a foreign national based on what can only be called disinformation.  The right wing media echo chamber drum beats this (although there has been some pushback on Fox).  Even the testimony of Hunter's main biz partner produced no evidence evidence.  Onward w/the political goal moving towards impeachment.  It's nuts. 

The biden crime family shit is pretty dumb.

Pretending we should not talk about Hunter, the leader of the free world's son.  Is even dumber.  Biden is the leader of humanity.  What his son does and does not do IS NEWS.  Not sure how this is so hard for people to understand.  This is how history works.  The worlds most powerful man is a dog shit human and father, a man who would risk his kids death and agony in addiction and depression if it meant cementing his own legacy.  He is a piece of shit.   History should remember Biden as a horrible father, who cared more about his legacy than if his kids lived or died, for decades.

+++++ him

And of course they are crooked...give me a break...you think all that with his son and brother was on the up and up either/or he had no idea?  Come the +++++ on.  I know it hurts you.  I know you really liked Biden and had a honeymoon period with him.  Yer boy is a piece of shit.

[grandjean87]

On 8/10/2023 at 6:59 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

The biden crime family shit is pretty dumb.

Pretending we should not talk about Hunter, the leader of the free world's son.  Is even dumber.  Biden is the leader of humanity.  What his son does and does not do IS NEWS.  Not sure how this is so hard for people to understand.  This is how history works.  The worlds most powerful man is a dog shit human and father, a man who would risk his kids death and agony in addiction and depression if it meant cementing his own legacy.  He is a piece of shit.   History should remember Biden as a horrible father, who cared more about his legacy than if his kids lived or died, for decades.

+++++ him

Your God complex takes where you label someone as the world's biggest piece of shit is a movie I've seen before a few times and I'm just not into the sequels.   

And, as for press coverage, Hunter has been prominent in the news since 2019 and covered extensively since 2020 including tons of disinformation.  We've had his naked body propped up in Congress.  But, we need M0ar Hunter news. Lmao. 
 

 

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 8/10/2023 at 7:13 PM, grandjean87 said:

Your God complex takes where you label someone as the world's biggest piece of shit is a movie I've seen before a few times and I'm just not into the sequels.   

And, as for press coverage, Hunter has been prominent in the news since 2019 and covered extensively since 2020 including tons of disinformation.  We've had his naked body propped up in Congress.  But, we need M0ar Hunter news. Lmao. 
 

 

I dunno, I think the leader of the free world being a horrific father with two suicidal kids begging for mercy from the world is news...you do not.

[grandjean87]

On 8/10/2023 at 7:29 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

I dunno, I think the leader of the free world being a horrific father with two suicidal kids begging for mercy from the world is news...you do not.

How many times do I have to tell you, they're Irish.  

[thelawlorfaithful]

On 8/10/2023 at 3:11 PM, GoDogs22 said:

 

How much did Jared and Don Jr make from 2016-2021?

Don’t know. Don’t care. Never pretended like Trump was on the up and up. Never made excuses for his shady behavior. Didn’t vote for him. Voted against him thrice. Don’t have to look like an idiot pretending otherwise.

But you did. Lol.

[grandjean87]

 

 

[Spaztecs]

On 8/10/2023 at 5:09 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

This is a really dumb ass take dude.  No offense.  When the leader of the free world, the POTUS, has an insane criminal child IT IS +++++ING NEWS!!! It deserves to be news.  OMGFG when there was a RUMOR of the Bush girls sneaking out to a frat party it made headlines.

If the POTUS has a son who he is deeply caring about that has Hunters back ground with drugs, people and....+++++ING FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS AND GOVERNMENTAL CONTROLLED ENTITIES...it is kind of news dude...

The Biden folks who want to pretend Hunter does not matter are idiots.  One, Hunter is a clear example that Biden is the ultimate piece of shit human as a father.  Who the +++++ runs for President when their only two kids are contemplating suicide?  +++++ Biden.  He is a piece of shit father and grandfather who cares more about his own legacy than if his kids live or die.  +++++ him. +++++ him to hell.

 

And yet Trumps ilk gets a pass because they passed on their Advisors salaries.

 

[Spaztecs]

On 8/10/2023 at 5:50 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Nah, when the POTUS has an insane drug addicted crazy kid committing gun crimes and frolicking with foreign entities it's news.

The bush girls were news.  Hunter is news.  If the POTUS is a dog shit father, that is news dude.  And Biden is complete dog shit father who is lucky he does not have the blood of his son and daughter on his hands....+++++ him.  He should have been being a father and grandfather instead of cementing his political legacy.  But he cared more about being President than being a dad.  +++++ him.

 

Imagine being so teams and shit you think the Hunter Biden saga is a bunch of nothing.  Biden is a piece of shit human, father and grandfather only concerned with his own legacy.  +++++ that piece of shit leading the free world.  He is a bad man.  

 

A couple weeks back you gave Jittery Joe a pass for being a not so nice guy because be Prez is a demanding job.

Which is it ?

 

[Spaztecs]

On 8/10/2023 at 8:18 PM, grandjean87 said:

How many times do I have to tell you, they're Irish.  

Irish Catholics.

Even worse.

[GoDogs22]

On 8/10/2023 at 9:17 PM, Spaztecs said:

 

Which is it ?

I'm thinking there's some alcohol involved in halfman's ranting this evening

[tspoke]

On 8/10/2023 at 5:50 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

Nah, when the POTUS has an insane drug addicted crazy kid committing gun crimes and frolicking with foreign entities it's news.

The bush girls were news.  Hunter is news.  If the POTUS is a dog shit father, that is news dude.  And Biden is complete dog shit father who is lucky he does not have the blood of his son and daughter on his hands....+++++ him.  He should have been being a father and grandfather instead of cementing his political legacy.  But he cared more about being President than being a dad.  +++++ him.

 

Imagine being so teams and shit you think the Hunter Biden saga is a bunch of nothing.  Biden is a piece of shit human, father and grandfather only concerned with his own legacy.  +++++ that piece of shit leading the free world.  He is a bad man.  

How many congressional hearings were there about the Bush girls? Thats the difference, not that stuff like that shouldn't make the news but the witch hunt(er) from the congressional politicians and trying to make it into something bigger than it is is the point.

[RSF]

On 8/10/2023 at 5:11 PM, GoDogs22 said:

 

How much did Jared and Don Jr make from 2016-2021?

[RSF]

On 8/10/2023 at 9:18 PM, grandjean87 said:

How many times do I have to tell you, they're Irish.  

 

On 8/10/2023 at 11:20 PM, Spaztecs said:

Irish Catholics.

Even worse.

A pox on both your houses...

[grandjean87]

On 8/11/2023 at 8:02 AM, tspoke said:

How many congressional hearings were there about the Bush girls? Thats the difference, not that stuff like that shouldn't make the news but the witch hunt(er) from the congressional politicians and trying to make it into something bigger than it is is the point.

The Bush girls?  Gun crimes?  I was expecting the Mann Act.  Jeebus. 

[grandjean87]

NYT's "The Morning" had this general take. 08.11.23 -- David Leonhardt:

"Is it a scandal?

The Hunter Biden case has become the latest example of America’s dueling realities.

If you’re a Republican, there is a good chance you believe that Democrats and the mainstream media are deliberately minimizing a scandal that calls into question President Biden’s honesty and threatens his presidency. I know some conservative readers of The Morning feel this way because they’ve written to me to say so.

If you’re a Democrat, you likely believe that this so-called scandal is a transparent attempt to distract from Donald Trump’s far worse behavior. You may see the Hunter Biden obsession as the latest in a line of conservative conspiracy theories, joining Barack Obama’s birthplace, John Kerry’s Vietnam War record and the suicide of Vince Foster.

Today’s newsletter is for both those readers who believe the case deserves more attention and those whose instinct is to skip any article about Hunter Biden. I hope to avoid committing the journalistic sin of false balance while explaining why the story deserves some attention from everybody.

Cashing in

When top Democrats are asked about Hunter Biden, they tend to dismiss his problems as a private issue. “Hunter Biden is a private citizen, and this was a personal matter,” Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, said last month when asked about federal tax and gun charges against him. “The president, the first lady, they love their son, and they support him as he continues to rebuild his life.”

This explanation is partially fair. Hunter Biden has struggled with drug addiction. His failure to pay taxes seems connected to the chaos of his life while he was using crack cocaine, and the gun charge stems from his claiming to be sober when he bought a handgun in 2018.

But it’s a stretch for anyone to suggest that Hunter Biden is merely a private citizen. When his father was vice president from 2009 to 2017, Hunter tried to create the impression that he could leverage his family connections to help his clients, as a former business partner has testified to Congress.

Some clients believed it. Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, put Hunter on its board, in an attempt to signal that it was pro-Western. A Chinese tycoon also signed a partnership with him. All told, Hunter made more than $800,000 in 2013 and more than $1.2 million in 2014.

My colleague Luke Broadwater, who covers Congress, told me that he initially found the public discussion of Hunter Biden to be uninteresting — typical partisan noise. But Luke came to believe the story was more important. “Many rich and famous people try to cash in on their family name, including relatives of the politicians,” Luke said. “It’s certainly worth newspaper coverage.”

Luke notes that Joe Biden made a false statement during a 2020 campaign debate when he claimed, “My son has not made money” in China. “The only guy who made money from China is this guy,” Biden continued, referring to Donald Trump. (Amazingly, Biden was correct about the Trump part: The Trumps received money from the same Chinese company.)

These details are not pretty. The current president’s son made substantial sums of money from the perception of his proximity to top government officials, and the president has claimed otherwise. That story is notably different from past Republican lies about Obama’s birthplace or Kerry’s war record.

Unsupported claims

The problem for Biden’s Republican critics is that they are making their own untruthful statements — or at least statements lacking any support. House Republicans have claimed that the elder Biden himself received money as part of Hunter’s business dealings; they have produced no evidence to support the claim, Luke notes. There is also no evidence that Joe Biden altered policy to benefit Hunter’s clients.

Sometimes, the Republican claims have turned farcical. House Republicans portrayed Gal Luft, a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, as a truth teller who would expose the Bidens. Luft has not done so. Instead, a grand jury indicted him last monthfor acting as an unregistered agent of the Chinese government and helping Iran evade sanctions. Luft denies any wrongdoing.

For anybody who wants to dig deeper into the Hunter Biden saga, I recommend this detailed article by my colleagues Adam Entous, Michael Schmidt and Katie Benner. Here’s the key sentence: “The real Hunter Biden story is complex and very different in important ways from the narrative promoted by Republicans — but troubling in its own way.” As Michael said to me: “Should the vice president’s son be selling the perception of access to his father even if that son isn’t delivering anything for that money?”

Jonathan Chait of New York magazine has compared Hunter Biden to the Supreme Court justices who have accepted large gifts from private citizens. “In American politics, the worst abuses by powerful people usually involve clever ways to exploit the law without committing crimes,” Chait wrote.

Yes, Trump and his family have profited much more from their government service than Hunter Biden has. But that isn’t a fully satisfying explanation to many Americans. Perhaps, Chait argues, it’s time for stricter ethics rules for the highest officials and their close relatives:

“It’s unsavory, but it’s not a crime” is a good argument for a defense lawyer. It’s not a great argument for people who are in a position to write new laws and whose survival depends on refuting the cynicism of a pseudo-populist whose appeal is rooted in the corrosive assumption that every politician is on the take."

 

[GoDogs22]

On 8/11/2023 at 7:10 AM, RSF said:

 

A pox on both your houses...

 

But which one? Frogs? Blood? Locusts? Do they get to choose the pox?