grandjean87 Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 On 5/23/2023 at 3:51 PM, bornontheblue said: Kind alike the time Trump called out the debate moderator in 2016 for being on the rag, or when the conversation turned into a cock measuring contest, They waited until the Black guy dropped out before starting that bit Lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 On 5/23/2023 at 3:58 PM, grandjean87 said: They waited until the Black guy dropped out before starting that but. Lol. Rubio started it by saying Trump has small hands so that means he must have a small .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjean87 Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 On 5/23/2023 at 3:47 PM, bornontheblue said: Haven't you heard. If Trump is reelected he is just going to call it the 1st term do over and he can try to get a third term. There was a joke, iirc, that came out of Silicon Valley after Trump won in '16 that he would either be president for seven terms or zero terms. Trump has no moral core. He absolutely would lever power to authoritarianism if he had the intelligence and ability. I always think about what Charles Krauthammer wrote before he died in 2018. Paraphrasing, he said America passed the stress test. Our institutions and form of government survived. I wonder what he would have said about 2020-21? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grandjean87 Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 On 5/23/2023 at 4:02 PM, bornontheblue said: Rubio started it by saying Trump has small hands so that means he must have a small .... Yeh. I was in my room at lunch back then one day and this student came in to visit. She just kind of blurted out that the candidates were talking about who had a bigger dick. She's black. I made the joke and she laughed. I still communicate w/her on occasion. Really sweet soul. Looking forward to going to her wedding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLV2001 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 The LOSS is crapping himself again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLV2001 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Republicans at state levels continue to alienate everyone not in the trump cult or a religious nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 4:11 PM, grandjean87 said: Yeh. I was in my room at lunch back then one day and this student came in to visit. She just kind of blurted out that the candidates were talking about who had a bigger dick. She's black. I made the joke and she laughed. I still communicate w/her on occasion. Really sweet soul. Looking forward to going to her wedding. My wife has a whole network of students she stays in contact with. Just got a wedding announcement for one today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgreg Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 3 Quote People, not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---I GREEN INFECTION I--- Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 10:52 AM, tailingpermit said: MAKE AMERICA FLORIDA!!!!! Make America hateful...and Americans scared of non-problems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---I GREEN INFECTION I--- Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 1:51 PM, grandjean87 said: He's more mashed potatoes and gravy than toast, but we digress. DeSantis has a few things that will last and Trump doesn't have majority support w/in the party. Biden just has a high supermajority ¿---I You los me. What are you trying to say here. ...disapproval in this polarized era. RdS's $100+ million war chest goes a looong ways. He can make mistakes, look bad in debates, and reframe his candidacy over and over again. I think he's already done that subtlety w/Ukraine. He's got an attractive wife who will play the Hillary '92 role better and (assuming) not have to deal with an affair scandal. Casey wants First Lady. She's not getting sidetracked even if missing expectations in Iowa. The early default view that a crowded field, and it seems like Christie is also headed into the waters, hands the nomination to Trump is not assured. I don't think any of them fear, or are really intimidated by, Trump any longer. We'll probably see a lot of gang tackling. And, there are ways for the gang to criticize Trump, point out his weaknesses esp. in the general, and avoid alienating most of the humpers. Anyway, I think we'll see a fair amount of unexpected things as the primary race heats up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailingpermit Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 10:16 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said: Make America hateful...and Americans scared of non-problems... DeSantis is terrible, no idea where he’s going with this. I’ve never voted for him and won’t vote Republican. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjean87 Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 8:22 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said: I'll try to explain one time. Trump doesn't have majority support in his party. But, cross party approval ratings (presidents) have reached such a high level of polarization that it matters far less in our electoral system. It used to be that party members, and leaners, rated the opposition party leader lower, but not in the single digits Long trend from the 1970s on, and now if you are a D the Rs will give you single digit approvals and vice versa So, if DeSantis wins the Republican primary he will win almost all of the R and R-leaning indy vote (indies are party members in disguise to a great degree). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornontheblue Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 8:30 PM, grandjean87 said: I'll try to explain one time. Trump doesn't have majority support in his party. But, cross party approval ratings (presidents) have reached such a high level of polarization that it matters far less in our electoral system. It used to be that party members, and leaners, rated the opposition party leader lower, but not in the single digits Long trend from the 1970s on, and now if you are a D the Rs will give you single digit approvals and vice versa So, if DeSantis wins the Republican primary he will win almost all of the R and R-leaning indy vote (indies are party members in disguise to a great degree). What you are taking about us true and it gives the Rs the upper hand on Congress, bot not so much the presidency in future decades, if the trend holds out. Many states , especially Midwestern states used to reliably split the ticket . They would give their electoral votes to the GOP, but reliably reelect a Democrat to the Senate , or the House. Those days are over. My opinion is that the Dems will win most presidential elections, but the GOP will have the upper hand in Congress, especially the Senate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---I GREEN INFECTION I--- Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 7:30 PM, grandjean87 said: I'll try to explain one time. Trump doesn't have majority support in his party. But, cross party approval ratings (presidents) have reached such a high level of polarization that it matters far less in our electoral system. It used to be that party members, and leaners, rated the opposition party leader lower, but not in the single digits Long trend from the 1970s on, and now if you are a D the Rs will give you single digit approvals and vice versa So, if DeSantis wins the Republican primary he will win almost all of the R and R-leaning indy vote (indies are party members in disguise to a great degree). I get the concept you're laying out. SORRY...I wasn't very clear. That's my fault. The descriptor "Supermajority" doesn't fit: https://ballotpedia.org/Supermajority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 He’s my guy. I’m riding with DeSantis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---I GREEN INFECTION I--- Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 3:07 PM, UNLV2001 said: ¿Trump has "charm?" Nikki Haley is high... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---I GREEN INFECTION I--- Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 3:52 PM, UNLV2001 said: The LOSS is crapping himself again He's right. "Nothing like this has ever happened in out country before." That's because no president has ever been this lawless & a-moral before. What a whining crying baby & narcissist. Always playing the victim card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---I GREEN INFECTION I--- Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 3:54 PM, UNLV2001 said: Republicans at state levels continue to alienate everyone not in the trump cult or a religious nut GOOD GOD...you have a 3-7 day window to get an abortion now. GOD HELP US, ESPECIALLY OUR WOMEN & GIRLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjean87 Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2023 at 8:52 PM, bornontheblue said: What you are taking about us true and it gives the Rs the upper hand on Congress, bot not so much the presidency in future decades, if the trend holds out. Many states , especially Midwestern states used to reliably split the ticket . They would give their electoral votes to the GOP, but reliably reelect a Democrat to the Senate , or the House. Those days are over. My opinion is that the Dems will win most presidential elections, but the GOP will have the upper hand in Congress, especially the Senate. Split ticket voting saw a decline to almost a half century back (or thereabouts). Even in the Reagan era the cross party approvals were in the 30s (%). By Trump, it was in the 80% range. That means almost all Rs support Rs and disapprove of Ds and the same in reverse. The EC works (nationally) like a district single member plurality vote. It helps the Rs at the presidential level. As for all the rest, it's all pretty dynamic. Recent gerrymandering limiting contested CDs may not hold. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...