Big Ten has already invited Oregon and Washington

[I Am Not Gary Busey]

On 5/22/2023 at 5:03 PM, RebelAlliance said:

Here would be a list of the five B1G universities doing the most annual research if OUW join.

1. Michigan: 1.71B
2. Washington: 1.67B
3. UCLA: 1.47B
4. Wisconsin: 1.4B
5. Ohio State: 1.23B

Oregon would be the second lowest school above Nebraska, but they are decent undergrad and an AAU member.  

U of O is rising:  https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/university-of-oregon-receives-second-500-million-gift-for-the-phil-and-penny-knight-campus-for-accelerating-scientific-impact-301325636.html

[Nevada Convert]

On 5/23/2023 at 8:52 AM, I Am Not Gary Busey said:

U of O is rising:  https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/university-of-oregon-receives-second-500-million-gift-for-the-phil-and-penny-knight-campus-for-accelerating-scientific-impact-301325636.html

They might as well re-name the school:

University of Phil Knight at Oregon

…..or UPKO

[smithy]

On 5/22/2023 at 2:03 PM, RebelAlliance said:

Here would be a list of the five B1G universities doing the most annual research if OUW join.

1. Michigan: 1.71B
2. Washington: 1.67B
3. UCLA: 1.47B
4. Wisconsin: 1.4B
5. Ohio State: 1.23B

Oregon would be the second lowest school above Nebraska, but they are decent undergrad and an AAU member.  

Isn't Stanford and Cal is over 4B by themselves? That is why Utah doesn't want to leave the Pac12 because of the huge research connections.

[I Am Not Gary Busey]

On 5/23/2023 at 2:41 PM, Nevada Convert said:

They might as well re-name the school:

University of Phil Knight at Oregon

…..or UPKO

God Bless Uncle Phil

[madmartigan]

On 5/23/2023 at 1:20 PM, smithy said:

Isn't Stanford and Cal is over 4B by themselves? That is why Utah doesn't want to leave the Pac12 because of the huge research connections.

This + if they left the PAC they would likely find themselves in a conference with BYU again. That's a bitter pill to swallow. 

[RebelAlliance]

On 5/23/2023 at 2:20 PM, smithy said:

Isn't Stanford and Cal is over 4B by themselves? That is why Utah doesn't want to leave the Pac12 because of the huge research connections.

Cal (871M) is not that high because they don't have a medical school. UCSF does more. Stanford would become the top dog in the B1G at 1.82B. 

[smithy]

On 5/23/2023 at 12:40 PM, RebelAlliance said:

Cal (871M) is not that high because they don't have a medical school. UCSF does more. Stanford would become the top dog in the B1G at 1.82B. 

I remember Cal was associated with Livermore Lab for their nuclear research for nuclear weapons and physics lab back in the 60's and 70's. 

[818SUDSFan]

On 5/18/2023 at 8:20 PM, RSF said:

Ignoring for a moment the odds of being invited to the Big 12, that would come with reduced payments, too.

 

Are there flights or buses to Pullman and Corvallis?

I've never been to Pullman so have no clue but Eugene's airport is as big as Fresno's and Corvallis is only 45 minutes from Eugene.

[818SUDSFan]

On 5/22/2023 at 2:03 PM, RebelAlliance said:

Here would be a list of the five B1G universities doing the most annual research if OUW join.

1. Michigan: 1.71B
2. Washington: 1.67B
3. UCLA: 1.47B
4. Wisconsin: 1.4B
5. Ohio State: 1.23B

Oregon would be the second lowest school above Nebraska, but they are decent undergrad and an AAU member.  

The state of Oregon is odd in many ways which, IMO, give it character. One such way is that its public medical school is in Portland, not Eugene or Corvallis.

I've heard that UO's AAU status is teetering and from reading John Canzano's columns religiously over the last 8 months or so, I've learned that UO's athletics budget is so dependent on Phil Knight's money that the man is supposedly invited to every significant meeting the athletic department holds. Knight has been wonderful for UO but he's 85 years old.

Add to the above that U$C reportedly detests UO's flashiness and the bottom line is that although Oregon has had a great athletics run, that's likely to begin to end soon and as you suggest, despite what some with limited knowledge of the university may say, with merely good, rather than excellent, academics, its chances of being offered membership in the B1G are very slim.

[---I GREEN INFECTION I---]

On 5/23/2023 at 8:52 AM, I Am Not Gary Busey said:

U of O is rising:  https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/university-of-oregon-receives-second-500-million-gift-for-the-phil-and-penny-knight-campus-for-accelerating-scientific-impact-301325636.html

 

I wonder if Phil Knight got any $$$ from the recently released film "Air."

 

 

 

 

[utenation]

On 5/23/2023 at 1:20 PM, smithy said:

Isn't Stanford and Cal is over 4B by themselves? That is why Utah doesn't want to leave the Pac12 because of the huge research connections.

There is no doubt rubbing shoulders with other major research institutions in the PAC has improved our academic profile. 

Our research expenditures keep going up each year. I think we are at about $700 million. 
 

As far as other reasons to want to stay in the PAC, we are in the West. Much more in common than say with Cincinnati, WV, Orlando, Kansas, Oklahoma etc…

 

[---I GREEN INFECTION I---]

On 5/23/2023 at 12:20 PM, smithy said:

Isn't Stanford and Cal is over 4B by themselves? That is why Utah doesn't want to leave the Pac12 because of the huge research connections.

 

I can't find an accurate number for Cal.  However, 1/10th (10%) of all-academic research done in the US, happens on the 11-Univ of Calif campuses.  I'm GUESSING Cal is #1 on that list.

 

[---I GREEN INFECTION I---]

On 5/23/2023 at 12:40 PM, RebelAlliance said:

Cal (871M) is not that high because they don't have a medical school. UCSF does more. Stanford would become the top dog in the B1G at 1.82B. 

 

Lawrence Livermore Labs has a current budget of $2.3-billion & was founded by Cal-Berkeley in 1951 as the University of California Radiation Laboratory, Livermore Branch.

However officially left the Cal administrative umbrella in 1971

 

[Nevada Convert]

On 5/23/2023 at 2:57 PM, 818SUDSFan said:

I've never been to Pullman so have no clue but Eugene's airport is as big as Fresno's and Corvallis is only 45 minutes from Eugene.

It’s only 9 miles from University of Idaho at Phoenix International Airport. The catch is they only offer online virtual flight service at this time.

[RSF]

On 5/23/2023 at 4:57 PM, 818SUDSFan said:

I've never been to Pullman so have no clue but Eugene's airport is as big as Fresno's and Corvallis is only 45 minutes from Eugene.

Doesn't strike me as a positive...

[RebelAlliance]

On 5/23/2023 at 5:31 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

 

I can't find an accurate number for Cal.  However, 1/10th (10%) of all-academic research done in the US, happens on the 11-Univ of Calif campuses.  I'm GUESSING Cal is #1 on that list.

 

Nope.  No medical school, which is the primary driver in research funding.  Only overall number that I could find from UCSF was 1.45B, but that was from the last year before the pandemic.  UCLA is currently right about at that figure.  UC Davis is at 1.07B and...drum roll please...UC San Diego is at 1.65B.  Now, if Berkeley and UCSF were considered a singular campus, that total would rival Johns Hopkins for tops in the country.  

I'd guess that if you added up the total of the B1G universities, it would be even more...though I don't know if the per campus average would top the UC system.  I remember--and this was before Nebraska, Maryland and Rutgers were added--that it was said that a quarter of all the doctoral degrees granted in an average year came from B1G schools.  

[Wyobraska]

On 5/23/2023 at 4:10 PM, 818SUDSFan said:

The state of Oregon is odd in many ways which, IMO, give it character. One such way is that its public medical school is in Portland, not Eugene or Corvallis.

I've heard that UO's AAU status is teetering and from reading John Canzano's columns religiously over the last 8 months or so, I've learned that UO's athletics budget is so dependent on Phil Knight's money that the man is supposedly invited to every significant meeting the athletic department holds. Knight has been wonderful for UO but he's 85 years old.

Add to the above that U$C reportedly detests UO's flashiness and the bottom line is that although Oregon has had a great athletics run, that's likely to begin to end soon and as you suggest, despite what some with limited knowledge of the university may say, with merely good, rather than excellent, academics, its chances of being offered membership in the B1G are very slim.

I wonder what type of gift is in Uncle Phil's will for Oregon.  I would have to think it is pretty substantial. 

[NevadaFan]

On 5/23/2023 at 3:58 PM, RSF said:

Doesn't strike me as a positive...

Lewiston’s airport is no different than Springfield/Eugene and is about 45 minutes from Pullman. 

[---I GREEN INFECTION I---]

On 5/23/2023 at 3:31 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

I can't find an accurate number for Cal.  However, 1/10th (10%) of all-academic research done in the US, happens on the 11-Univ of Calif campuses.  I'm GUESSING Cal is #1 on that list.

 

On 5/23/2023 at 3:39 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

Lawrence Livermore Labs has a current budget of $2.3-billion & was founded by Cal-Berkeley in 1951 as the University of California Radiation Laboratory, Livermore Branch.

However officially left the Cal administrative umbrella in 1971

 

On 5/23/2023 at 5:14 PM, RebelAlliance said:

Nope.  No medical school, <---I ¿Are you confusing me w/someone else? My Dad was in Grad School at Cal when when I was born.  ¡GO GOLDEN BEARS!  Several friends from HS & one of my best friends/frmr roommate at CSU's Dad was at UCSF when my Dad was at Cal.  I'm well aware for all intent & purpose's Cal Med Schoo is across the bay at UCSF.  They made the change from the Cal name I--> to UCSF in 1964.  I commented about Cal's roll in the evolution of Lawerence Livermore Labs, however never discussed wether it does, or doesn't have a post-grad Med pgm.  which is the primary driver in research funding.  Only overall number that I could find from UCSF was 1.45B, but that was from the last year before the pandemic.  UCLA is currently right about at that figure.  UC Davis is at 1.07B and...drum roll please...UC San Diego is at 1.65B.  Now, if Berkeley and UCSF were considered a singular campus, that total would rival Johns Hopkins for tops in the country.  

I'd guess that if you added up the total of the B1G universities, it would be even more...though I don't know if the per campus average would top the UC system.  I remember--and this was before Nebraska, Maryland and Rutgers were added--that it was said that a quarter of all the doctoral degrees granted in an average year came from B1G schools.  <---I That sounds plausible 

 

Nope.  No medical school, <---I ¿Are you confusing me w/someone else? My Dad was in Grad School at Cal when when I was born.  ¡GO GOLDEN BEARS!  Several friends from HS & one of my best friends/frmr roommate at CSU's Dad was at UCSF when my Dad was at Cal.  I'm well aware for all intent & purpose's Cal Med Schoo is across the bay at UCSF. I commented about Cal's roll in the evolution of Lawerence Livermore Labs, however never discussed wether it does, or doesn't have a post-grad Med pgm.  which is the primary driver in research funding.  Only overall number that I could find from UCSF was 1.45B, but that was from the last year before the pandemic.  UCLA is currently right about at that figure.  UC Davis is at 1.07B and...drum roll please...UC San Diego is at 1.65B.  Now, if Berkeley and UCSF were considered a singular campus, that total would rival Johns Hopkins for tops in the country.  

I'd guess that if you added up the total of the B1G universities, it would be even more...though I don't know if the per campus average would top the UC system.  I remember--and this was before Nebraska, Maryland and Rutgers were added--that it was said that a quarter of all the doctoral degrees granted in an average year came from B1G schools.  <---I That sounds plausible 

 

 

[---I GREEN INFECTION I---]

On 5/23/2023 at 12:48 PM, smithy said:

I remember Cal was associated with Livermore Lab for their nuclear research for nuclear weapons and physics lab back in the 60's and 70's. 

 

On 5/23/2023 at 3:39 PM, ---I GREEN INFECTION I--- said:

Lawrence Livermore Labs has a current budget of $2.3-billion & was founded by Cal-Berkeley in 1951 as the University of California Radiation Laboratory, Livermore Branch.

However officially left the Cal administrative umbrella in 1971

 

YUP...it started in the early-1950s as part of Cal in either the Oakland or Berkeley Hills (I forget which)...then added the Livermore campus...then went indy from the univ in 1971.