Texas Outlet Mall Mass Shooting

[utenation]

On 5/7/2023 at 7:39 PM, UNLV2001 said:

That's why I said in some states any legislation will die a quick death, but just bring up a few bills & make the NRA spend, even if it's a few hundred........because they can't throw $$ at every state -- Thats just at state legislative levels.........run gun control candidates in any race available so the NRA has to counter those races for House & Senate 

The NRA Has Lost Over a Million Members Since Corruption Allegations Surfaced

https://thereload.com/nra-has-lost-over-a-million-members-since-corruption-allegations-surfaced/

The National Rifle Association keeps shrinking.

Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre told attendees at the gun-rights group’s most recent board meeting that the organization is down to 4.3 million members, according to multiple sources. That number is corroborated by the group’s November 2022 Financial Statement Package obtained by The Reload. That represents a downturn of more than a million members since allegations of financial impropriety were leveled against LaPierre and other members of NRA leadership in 2019. The NRA is now smaller than it has been since 2012 when internal documents show the group had 4 million members.

The drop in membership has driven a stark decline in the NRA’s revenue over the same period. The presentation shows revenues were down nearly $24 million, or 11 percent, between 2021 and 2022, while expenses grew by more than $11.5 million, or 5.5 percent. A $37.4 million, or 32 percent, shortfall in membership dues was behind the revenue collapse. At the same time, a $16.4 million, or 47.4 percent, overrun in legal expenses led the group to finish in the red for the year.

The financial statement shows the NRA added 282,950 new members through the first eleven months of 2022, a shortfall of over 175,000 members from what the group had projected. That left the group with a $14 million hole in their budget. The story only gets worse when looking at membership renewals, where the NRA converted nearly 165,000 fewer than expected, leading to a $17.7 million deficit. Overall, the group brought in $32.4 million less than anticipated from member dues during that time.

I like the shrinkage.

[utenation]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:04 PM, grandjean87 said:

Let's not confuse having emotions with emotionalism.  The over emotional responses here whether hinting at civil war/revolution or just labeling the whole country (well, males) in ridiculous caricatures don't solve anything.  They don't even get to the realities of this very serious matter.  

I don't worry any at all where ever I go on foot.  I worry more in my vehicle especially on head-on roads.  But, I don't discount those feelings.  It should not be this way. 

This year, my radar is on for sure. Much more than the past.  Road rage, bars, and basic shopping. 

[RSF]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:15 PM, Akkula said:

And how many random mass school, church, and mall shootings have they had?  He careful about lying with statistics. 

Does that somehow make people less dead?  Do they have malls in Costa Rica?

 

Not lying about anything.

[grandjean87]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:09 PM, SharkTanked said:

I do worry post Covid. Though Oct 1 has a lot to do with that probably. Vegas suburbs are not a crime cesspool and we do not have the near Civil War that is happening in Texas and elsewhere. Less extremism here. Still it is a reality in a world where guns are prolific, there are few controls on ownership, we are open carry, and we have more than our fair share of mental and emotional problems here.

But I get the emotional vs emotionalism distinction. All you can do is try to steer the convo in a productive way. Some will never get there. Such is life.

I am using "emotionalism" as a technical term for world views that are excessively non-rational and opinionated.  That is the gist of too many posts here. 

I don't have a solution to the madness. I'd certainly go for the common sense and (reasonably) consensus proposals and policies, but they really are band aids regarding the mass shootings.  Those band aids are good and probably have more import on general gun crime.  Sadly, they don't stop all the bleeding of our bloody country. 

[grandjean87]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:22 PM, utenation said:

This year, my radar is on for sure. Much more than the past.  Road rage, bars, and basic shopping. 

Road rage and bar dangers are easily avoided by being smart and changing your basic emotional responses.  Shopping?  Just grab a few cans of chilli to throw like Elf w/snowballs (lol) if unarmed and know the lay out. 

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:33 PM, SharkTanked said:

So we are saying the same thing. I think. 

Either I am dense or you are too criptic to understand lol.

Probably I’m too cryptic to understand.  
 

I guess what I’m saying is whenever the next nut job does this act (which we all know is sure to happen), I would prefer they target the enablers of tyranny than our children.  

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:37 PM, SharkTanked said:

I just don't think you beat them at the money game. When people prize guns over children's lives, the money isn't gonna be an issue.

Hit them hard in public opinion. Flash up video of the dead bodies of kids, mangled beyond recognition. Play it during every televised sporting event. Buy up billboards all over the red stated.

They will just pass laws banning it.  They are banning books already.  Not really an issue adding one more 

[utenation]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:30 PM, grandjean87 said:

Road rage and bar dangers are easily avoided by being smart and changing your basic emotional responses.  Shopping?  Just grab a few cans of chilli to throw like Elf and snowballs (lol) if unarmed and know the lay out. 

I certainly don’t walk around in fear. Just much more aware of my surroundings. 
 

I’ve seen just about everything at bars including shots fired. My youth of course. My bar trips now are very rare and start and stop with sports bars for a game here and there. 

[SJSUMFA2013]

On 5/7/2023 at 7:31 PM, sactowndog said:

I would prefer they target the enablers of tyranny than our children.

Except that the nut jobs are doing the bidding of said enablers. Mass shootings are an essential part of the tyranny. Make no mistake: the right wing death machine jumps for joy every time a bullet rips through a child. They love this shit.  

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:41 PM, Akkula said:

That isn't really true...Democrats just had the senate.   We just had shitbags like Sinema filling their pockets.

Many of you in here thought I was a wild eyed nut for wanting to eliminate the filibuster only a few years ago.   I was right this whole time and the rank and file are starting to understand that and make it a voting issue for senate candidates. 

Oh I agree.  But at best you are going to reform the filibuster and no R Senator is going to blink twice about talking it to death.  

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 5/7/2023 at 7:22 PM, sactowndog said:

Not at all.   Is there much to discuss?  Very few on here actually disagree aside from maybe @halfmanhalfbronco .   

Wut, I have made my stances on the changes in legislation known I would like to see over and over and over. Raise the legal age to 21.  Mental health screening for all first time buyers of certain times of arms as wail as waiting periods.  National background checks.  And they make much more sense than your bat shit crazy ideas.  Are you that desperate for a win against me after I clown +++++ on every thread over and over you are just making shit up now?

[grandjean87]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:37 PM, SJSUMFA2013 said:

Except that the nut jobs are doing the bidding of said enablers. Mass shootings are an essential part of the tyranny. Make no mistake: the right wing death machine jumps for joy every time a bullet rips through a child. They love this shit.  

@SharkTanked this is the idiocy, in this case the most extreme, I'm referring to as emotionalism.  

[SJSUMFA2013]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:01 PM, grandjean87 said:

@SharkTanked this is the idiocy, in this case the most extreme, I'm referring to as emotionalism.  

Explain how I’m wrong

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:38 PM, sactowndog said:

Oh I agree.  But at best you are going to reform the filibuster and no R Senator is going to blink twice about talking it to death.  

Again, to clarify, just because I shit on your retarded as +++++ ideas does not mean I am against legislation that makes sense....I just think your ideas are....weeeelllll.....+++++ing retarded.

[grandjean87]

On 5/7/2023 at 9:04 PM, SJSUMFA2013 said:

Explain how I’m wrong

Explain what the right wing death machine is and provide factual information on how they "jump for joy" every time a bullet rips through a child because they love that shit. No, wait, just fcvk off.  

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 5/7/2023 at 9:04 PM, SJSUMFA2013 said:

Explain how I’m wrong

You sound like an unhinged retard

[soupslam1]

On 5/7/2023 at 9:04 PM, SJSUMFA2013 said:

Explain how I’m wrong

You’ve lost your marbles. I hope you don’t have any guns. 

[SJSUMFA2013]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:14 PM, grandjean87 said:

Explain what the right wing death machine is and provide factual information on how they "jump for joy" every time a bullet rips through a child because they love that shit. No, wait, just fcvk off.  

 

On 5/7/2023 at 8:17 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

You sound like an unhinged retard

 

On 5/7/2023 at 8:17 PM, soupslam1 said:

You’ve lost your marbles. I hope you don’t have any guns. 

Are we arguing that the Republican Party and gun manufacturers don’t benefit financially from mass shootings?

[halfmanhalfbronco]

On 5/7/2023 at 8:37 PM, SJSUMFA2013 said:

Except that the nut jobs are doing the bidding of said enablers. Mass shootings are an essential part of the tyranny. Make no mistake: the right wing death machine jumps for joy every time a bullet rips through a child. They love this shit.  

The more times I read the more unhinged you sound

[grandjean87]

On 5/7/2023 at 9:19 PM, SJSUMFA2013 said:

 

 

Are we arguing that the Republican Party and gun manufacturers don’t benefit financially from mass shootings?

Not what you posted, and mass shootings aren't the main selling points to the ammosexuals.