Texas Outlet Mall Mass Shooting

[Akkula]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:27 PM, RSF said:

Where the murder rate is higher.

And how many random mass school, church, and mall shootings have they had?  He careful about lying with statistics. 

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:12 PM, SharkTanked said:

None. I thought I was clear on that.

So your solution is that there is no possible solution?

No I didn’t say give up.  It’s a tyranny of minority and gun money.  The founders explicitly created a solution for tyrannical governments.   

[SharkTanked]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:15 PM, utenation said:

I think handguns still lead as the overall weapon used in this garbage.
 

But damn, how many AR-15s have we seen just this year? Same story too. Just bought it. With social media rants and or manifesto/cries for help that went unnoticed. 

 

 

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:15 PM, SharkTanked said:

You seem to want to enable the gun lobby by throwing in the towel.

A true inspiration. 

15 years of posting on here…..  have you ever seen me be a throw in the towel type?????  

[SharkTanked]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:16 PM, sactowndog said:

No I didn’t say give up.  It’s a tyranny of minority and gun money.  The founders explicitly created a solution for tyrannical governments.   

Sounds like you are advocating silencing the discussion. My bad if I misread.

[SharkTanked]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:16 PM, sactowndog said:

No I didn’t say give up.  It’s a tyranny of minority and gun money.  The founders explicitly created a solution for tyrannical governments.   

So your solution is to overthrow the government?

WTF are you talking about?

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:19 PM, SharkTanked said:

Sounds like you are advocating silencing the discussion. My bad if I misread.

Not at all.   Is there much to discuss?  Very few on here actually disagree aside from maybe @halfmanhalfbronco .   

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:21 PM, SharkTanked said:

So your solution is to overthrow the government?

WTF are you talking about?

It’s a tyranny.   Vast majorities support action a minority is blocking.  It is explicitly the solution provided by our founding fathers.  
 

Im not personally saying I or anyone else should do something but my characterization of it as a tyranny and the solutions enabled in our constitution are pretty factual.  

[UNLV2001]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:10 PM, sactowndog said:

Well clearly voting them out has not worked.  You have waited a decade and gun laws have only gotten more lax.  How many children are you willing to sacrifice? 

 

On 5/7/2023 at 6:12 PM, SharkTanked said:

None. I thought I was clear on that.

So your solution is that there is no possible solution?

One thing I'd like to see is a 50 state full court press that would force the NRA to defend their stance which would be costly overall..........some states these bills would die a quick death, but in other states make the NRA hire lobbyists - NRA is already wounded financially, I'm wanting a full extinction of the NRA -- Drive the NRA into insolvency 

[SharkTanked]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:25 PM, sactowndog said:

It’s a tyranny.   Vast majorities support action a minority is blocking.  It is explicitly the solution provided by our founding fathers.  

So... play that out and let me know if it ends up resulting in more dead people than not. Last time lots and lots of people died.

[SharkTanked]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:25 PM, UNLV2001 said:

 

One thing I'd like to see is a 50 state full court press that would force the NRA to defend their stance which would be costly overall..........some states these bills would die a quick death, but in other states make the NRA hire lobbyists - NRA is already wounded financially, I'm wanting a full extinction of the NRA -- Drive the NRA into insolvency 

Not sure the gun lobby would ever run out of money. Idiots keep buying guns. If the NRA goes tits up, something else would take its place.

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:25 PM, UNLV2001 said:

 

One thing I'd like to see is a 50 state full court press that would force the NRA to defend their stance which would be costly overall..........some states these bills would die a quick death, but in other states make the NRA hire lobbyists - NRA is already wounded financially, I'm wanting a full extinction of the NRA -- Drive the NRA into insolvency 

I like that idea but at best 30 will do it.  The tyranny of the minority is based in 20 southern states. 

[Akkula]

On 5/7/2023 at 7:25 PM, sactowndog said:

It’s a tyranny.   Vast majorities support action a minority is blocking.  It is explicitly the solution provided by our founding fathers.  

Yeah. Wtf is he talking about?  All we have to do is use democracy and stop letting the minority veto everything.   People don't want this madness.

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:26 PM, SharkTanked said:

So... play that out and let me know if it ends up resulting in more dead people than not. Last time lots and lots of people died.

It’s possible and I didn’t say overthrow the government.  Gun control is stopped by a minority in the Senate and a Supreme Court we now know is owned by money.  

[SharkTanked]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:30 PM, Akkula said:

Yeah. Wtf is he talking about?  All we have to do is use democracy and stop letting the minority veto everything.   People don't want this madness.

Well, I agree with that but I still don't understand what sactown's solution is short of advocating all out civil war. Which is insane.

[SharkTanked]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:32 PM, sactowndog said:

It’s possible and I didn’t say overthrow the government.  Gun control is stopped by a minority in the Senate and a Supreme Court we now know is owned by money.  

So we are saying the same thing. I think. 

Either I am dense or you are too criptic to understand lol.

[UNLV2001]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:27 PM, SharkTanked said:

Not sure the gun lobby would ever run out of money. Idiots keep buying guns. If the NRA goes tits up, something else would take its place.

Gun makers would have to fill the NRA coffers & maybe raise membership fees -- If the gun fetishists /cult want to dig deep, then let them.......if it strains their financials  so be it, just like the trump cult 

Seeing Wayne LaPierre drag down the NRA financials has been fun

So if another organization rises, do the same.......make them burn $$ at every opportunity 

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:30 PM, Akkula said:

Yeah. Wtf is he talking about?  All we have to do is use democracy and stop letting the minority veto everything.   People don't want this madness.

Well you have a majority (see the polls) and I’m not talking about actually doing anything.  

[sactowndog]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:33 PM, SharkTanked said:

So we are saying the same thing. I think. 

Either I am dense or you are too criptic to understand lol.

I’m not advocating anything.  Just characterizing.   
 

when 80% wants a policy to occur and yet nothing happens you have by definition a tyranny.  

[SharkTanked]

On 5/7/2023 at 6:33 PM, UNLV2001 said:

Gun makers would have to fill the NRA coffers & maybe raise membership fees -- If the gun fetishists /cult want to dig deep, then let them.......if it strains their financials  so be it, just like the trump cult 

Seeing Wayne LaPierre drag down the NRA financials has been fun

So if another organization rises, do the same.......make them burn $$ at every opportunity 

I just don't think you beat them at the money game. When people prize guns over children's lives, the money isn't gonna be an issue.

Hit them hard in public opinion. Flash up video of the dead bodies of kids, mangled beyond recognition. Play it during every televised sporting event. Buy up billboards all over the red stated.