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On 3/31/2023 at 12:04 AM, IanforHeisman said:

Trump will be slaughtered by Sleepy Joe again.. Republicans are idiots to elect him.

Trump has always been an easy opponent.  He got so lucky to face Hillary.   Had he not paid off the pornstar, got Russian help, and for Comey, he would have been old news.  His only win was a fluke and that had been proven in every election since.

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On 3/31/2023 at 3:29 AM, Nevada Convert said:

WTF are you talking about? Biden’s last drone strike that he claimed took out a terrorist took out some innocent people. 

You’re a complete retard if you think drone strikes on terrorism should be stopped. They just need to do a better job on identifying targets with intelligence. Oh wait, Biden completely pulled out of Afghanistan making it virtually impossible to gather that kind of intelligence reliably. LOL. Biden is a total disaster on foreign policy other than Ukraine. 

Just look at the data, Gomer. 

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On 3/31/2023 at 7:27 AM, Akkula said:

Trump has always been an easy opponent.  He got so lucky to face Hillary.   Had he not paid off the pornstar, got Russian help, and for Comey, he would have been old news.  His only win was a fluke and that had been proven in every election since.

Hillary, especially in that moment in time, was probably the only Democratic Presidential candidate that he could have beaten in 2016. I said back then, and I'll say the same thing today, they were both terrible candidates. Trump won the nomination through bullying his way through the primaries and getting pluralities for delegates, while Hillary had the nomination handed to her as a lifetime achievement award. 

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On 3/31/2023 at 8:01 AM, GregoryPierreTolkien said:

I can't believe they arrested Trump. This is all just politics, man. They're trying to silence him and us, his supporters. It's not right, we need to stand with him and fight this.

You broke character....

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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On 3/31/2023 at 8:51 AM, retrofade said:

Hillary, especially in that moment in time, was probably the only Democratic Presidential candidate that he could have beaten in 2016. I said back then, and I'll say the same thing today, they were both terrible candidates. Trump won the nomination through bullying his way through the primaries and getting pluralities for delegates, while Hillary had the nomination handed to her as a lifetime achievement award. 

He was the strongest candidate in 2016. He had the right policies and the guts to take on the political establishment. It didn't matter who the Democrats put up against him, he was going to win. His victory was a clear message from the American people that we wanted change and Trump was the man to deliver it.

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On 3/31/2023 at 8:07 AM, GregoryPierreTolkien said:

I didn't break character. I'm just speaking the truth, you know? But, of course, we all have views and opinions, making life enjoyable. I'm just being real, that's all.

Disappointing.  You had something going there.

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This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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On 3/31/2023 at 6:51 AM, retrofade said:

Hillary, especially in that moment in time, was probably the only Democratic Presidential candidate that he could have beaten in 2016. I said back then, and I'll say the same thing today, they were both terrible candidates. Trump won the nomination through bullying his way through the primaries and getting pluralities for delegates, while Hillary had the nomination handed to her as a lifetime achievement award. 

I never had much respect for Hillary because I felt she road Bill's coattails to her position.  She was definitely anointed and the establishment basically decided she was the candidate before she even campaigned.  Biden or Bernie would have beaten Trump partially because they would not have been so stupid as to ignore the most important swing states. 

Despite running a crappy candidate, Russian involvement, paying off the a porn star, and complete political malpractice, Trump BARELY won that election by the skin of his teeth.  

When history has been written it 2016 will be seen as a fluke.  The string of losses Trumpists have seen will only further solidify this impression.  

2016 will be a less on "how to lose an election when 55% of voters prefer you to someone who is preferred by 45%.

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On 3/31/2023 at 2:29 AM, Nevada Convert said:

WTF are you talking about? Biden’s last drone strike that he claimed took out a terrorist took out some innocent people. 

You’re a complete retard if you think drone strikes on terrorism should be stopped. They just need to do a better job on identifying targets with intelligence. Oh wait, Biden completely pulled out of Afghanistan making it virtually impossible to gather that kind of intelligence reliably. LOL. Biden is a total disaster on foreign policy other than Ukraine. 

I think the better question is, WTF are YOU talking about? Nobody was talking about whether Biden was good on “foreign policy”. Literally nobody.
 

The claim people were responding to (from @Bob, not you) was that Trump was somehow uniquely “anti-war”. That is just objectively false. That was illustrated by me pointing out that Biden ended a war when Trump said he would but didn’t, and that Biden is droning less people than Trump did.

So any definition of “anti-war” that includes Trump must include Biden as well. If the person is being consistent at least. 

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On 3/31/2023 at 9:19 AM, RSF said:

Disappointing.  You had something going there.

although if those responses were created using GPT too that would be even funnier

Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. 

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I'm most curious to see what the charges are. Federal campaign finance laws aren't going to stick in a state indictment. The indictment will be unselaed after the arriagnment.

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On 3/31/2023 at 9:26 AM, Jackrabbit said:

This is very bad day for America.  We are officially no better than a banana republic.

Our elite sent a message.  Don't f with us.

Let me ask you a question.  When Trump and Barr were running the DOJ, why do you think Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton never faced charges?

  • Because Trump and Barr believed Hunter and Hillary were "special people" who were subject to a different set of laws and they were untouchable.  Furthermore, they thought it would be "bad for the country" to prosecute people associated with their political opponents.
  • OR....they TRIED THEIR BEST to find some dirt on Hillary and Hunter but they came up completely empty.   They REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to charge them but they could find absolutely NOTHING.
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On 3/31/2023 at 9:36 AM, WYO1016 said:

I'm most curious to see what the charges are. Federal campaign finance laws aren't going to stick in a state indictment. The indictment will be unselaed after the arriagnment.

If it's really over 30 counts, I don't think the federal campaign laws will be the hitch.  There will be more than Stormy and Cohen stuff. 

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On 3/31/2023 at 9:36 AM, WYO1016 said:

I'm most curious to see what the charges are. Federal campaign finance laws aren't going to stick in a state indictment. The indictment will be unselaed after the arriagnment.

I think the porn star is the salacious sizzle but not the steak.  Remember the guy's organization is a convicted criminal and he is not allowed to run a non-profit.  He is a white collar criminal.

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On 3/31/2023 at 9:48 AM, Akkula said:

I think the porn star is the salacious sizzle but not the steak.  Remember the guy's organization is a convicted criminal and he is not allowed to run a non-profit.  He is a white collar criminal.

First paragraph to the quoted post:

"The new charges against Trump aren’t so much unprecedented, as they simply charge Trump’s biological person with the same crimes for which his corporate persons have already been convicted."

https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/03/31/trump-has-attempted-to-cover-up-that-he-cheated-to-cover-up-cheating-in-2016-at-least-six-times/

Plus:

"But there’s more history here, too. On multiple occasions, agents of Donald Trump reportedly engaged in further attempts to cover-up this cover-up.

Trump Organization withheld multiple documents from investigators. Most known documents that were withheld — such as the email showing Cohen had a substantive conversation with a Dmitri Peskov aide during the election — pertain to Russia, but it’s certainly possible they withheld others.

In 2018, in the days after SDNY seized phones that included recordings of conversations about the hush payments, Trump is suspectedof floating a pardon to Cohen to keep him quiet, about this and about the impossibly lucrative Trump Tower deal both had lied to hide from voters in 2016."

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On 3/31/2023 at 11:26 AM, Jackrabbit said:

This is very bad day for America.  We are officially no better than a banana republic.

Our elite sent a message.  Don't f with us.

If a president committed war crimes while in office, do you think they should be prosecuted?

Remember that every argument you have with someone on MWCboard is actually the continuation of a different argument they had with someone else also on MWCboard. 

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