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On 4/12/2023 at 9:43 AM, MissionTrails said:

Right on. Us "state schools" need all the help we can get from the rich philanthropists. Looks like she's a Northern Colorado dropout but must have become a Rams fan at some point.

She became a Sonny Lubick "the person" fan, and has been a big supporter for us ever since.

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On 4/12/2023 at 11:47 AM, Someone Else said:

Attractive.  With money.

I could maybe see living part time in Fort Collins... if she wants to date me.  hahahaha

I heard she played soccer at New Mexico many years back. Small anger issues but some guys dig that.

Like you said, money can overcome a lot of things like being thrown down the stairs by your wife by accident. 
 

 

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3 hours ago, utenation said:

I heard she played soccer at New Mexico many years back. Small anger issues but some guys dig that.

Like you said, money can overcome a lot of things like being thrown down the stairs by your wife by accident. 
 

 

Give the kid a break... nearly everyone gets mad when they play BYU... :)

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I’ve heard that SDSU will be considered a P5 school for the B12 media rights if added. Adding SDSU would give the B12 an extra 20 million a year. 
 

Not sure if it’s true but it certainly make sense. 
 

BYU/SDSU basketball series is apparently going to be long term. Not sure if that means anything except SDSU has at least one strong ally in the B12. 

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On 5/11/2023 at 7:20 PM, robe said:

I’ve heard that SDSU will be considered a P5 school for the B12 media rights if added. Adding SDSU would give the B12 an extra 20 million a year. 
 

Not sure if it’s true but it certainly make sense. 
 

BYU/SDSU basketball series is apparently going to be long term. Not sure if that means anything except SDSU has at least one strong ally in the B12. 

Pope and Dutch are friends. Both see the other as a low risk OOC opponent. 

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On 5/11/2023 at 10:20 PM, robe said:

I’ve heard that SDSU will be considered a P5 school for the B12 media rights if added. Adding SDSU would give the B12 an extra 20 million a year. 
 

Not sure if it’s true but it certainly make sense. 
 

BYU/SDSU basketball series is apparently going to be long term. Not sure if that means anything except SDSU has at least one strong ally in the B12. 

Why would big12 accept sdsu for 20m/year? That would be a pay decrease.  Surely you don’t think they would add 20m/year in addition to the 32m/year valuation of the big 12 teams? Or/Wa didn’t even have that much value to the BIG.  If sdsu was worth that much they would’ve already been p5 and wouldn’t be discussed at all today.  They aren’t going to the Big12, there is zero practicality to it.  The PAC is a wonderful option!

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Good God (appropriate here) YBU is ANYTHING BUT AN ALLY.

 

On 5/11/2023 at 8:57 PM, SDSUfan said:

BYU/SDSU basketball series is apparently going to be long term. Not sure if that means anything except SDSU has at least one strong ally in the B12. 

 

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On 5/12/2023 at 1:05 AM, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Why would big12 accept sdsu for 20m/year? That would be a pay decrease.  Surely you don’t think they would add 20m/year in addition to the 32m/year valuation of the big 12 teams? Or/Wa didn’t even have that much value to the BIG.  If sdsu was worth that much they would’ve already been p5 and wouldn’t be discussed at all today.  They aren’t going to the Big12, there is zero practicality to it.  The PAC is a wonderful option!

The contract calls for additional 20 million by adding a P5 team which might include SDSU.  

I assume based on SDSU AD comments they would be considered P5 by the B12 media outlets. SDSU AD seems to think the B12 is an option maybe you are more aware of the situation than he is. 

To your other question the B12 will only get 20 million per p5 added. Apparently they have multiple reason to add a team. My best guess is in hopes of having a more secure conference and better TV package in the future. B12 is trying to expand only they know the reasons. 
 

Is SDSU worth 20 million no but that is what the contract says which likely includes SDSU. 

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On 5/12/2023 at 7:17 AM, Rev McQuervo said:

Good God (appropriate here) YBU is ANYTHING BUT AN ALLY.

 

 

BYU/SDSU relationship since 2018 says otherwise. SDSU saved BYU during Covid and apparently applied pressure on the MWC to accommodate BYU. 
 

SDSU and Utah are the only rival games retained since BYU joined the B12. Maybe coincidence. 

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On 5/12/2023 at 12:06 PM, robe said:

The contract calls for additional 20 million by adding a P5 team which might include SDSU.  

I assume based on SDSU AD comments they would be considered P5 by the B12 media outlets. SDSU AD seems to think the B12 is an option maybe you are more aware of the situation than he is. 

To your other question the B12 will only get 20 million per p5 added. Apparently they have multiple reason to add a team. My best guess is in hopes of having a more secure conference and better TV package in the future. B12 is trying to expand only they know the reasons. 
 

Is SDSU worth 20 million no but that is what the contract says which likely includes SDSU. 

I guess I’m not understanding how you begin and end your statement with saying sdsu is p5 when they aren’t.  They could join the PAC then maybe something happens down the line though.  That’s the smart play.  I think you might be falling for a little bit of the campaigning by the AD, not that there’s anything wrong with that, he’s doing his job.  PAC just seems better for the Aztecs across the board to me but just imo.  

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On 5/12/2023 at 9:11 AM, robe said:

BYU/SDSU relationship since 2018 says otherwise. SDSU saved BYU during Covid and apparently applied pressure on the MWC to accommodate BYU. 
 

SDSU and Utah are the only rival games retained since BYU joined the B12. Maybe coincidence. 

There has been bad blood between a large percentage of the schools' fan bases for many years. However, it's apparent the administration of each school has been able to see it's in their interest to take the high road and  maintain a relationship with the other. Just off the top of my head, it benefits BYU to come to California for recruiting purposes while helping SDSU to fill its stadium when BYU does and it also behooves SDSU to continue to play BYU if (more likely, when) SDSU joins the Pac in order to sometimes save travel expenses for non-revenue teams by having them also play at Provo when they have a road trip to SLC.

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On 5/12/2023 at 1:46 PM, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

I guess I’m not understanding how you begin and end your statement with saying sdsu is p5 when they aren’t.  They could join the PAC then maybe something happens down the line though.  That’s the smart play.  I think you might be falling for a little bit of the campaigning by the AD, not that there’s anything wrong with that, he’s doing his job.  PAC just seems better for the Aztecs across the board to me but just imo.  

The B12 contract will add 20 million to the contract if it adds a P5 school. No money is added for a non P5 school. This has been cited numerous places.
 

Apparently the media partners or part of the contract has given SDSU an exemption and will consider them a P5 school if added. The statement from your AD gives more weight to that being true. 
 

Adding 20 million for a P5 add is a fact for the B12 contract. SDSU counting as one is rumors and speculation that appears to have merit from statements and action coming out of SDSU. 

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On 5/11/2023 at 7:20 PM, robe said:

I’ve heard that SDSU will be considered a P5 school for the B12 media rights if added. Adding SDSU would give the B12 an extra 20 million a year. 
 

Not sure if it’s true but it certainly make sense. 
 

BYU/SDSU basketball series is apparently going to be long term. Not sure if that means anything except SDSU has at least one strong ally in the B12. 

Big12 would need to get fox on board for a full share, the extra money could be given to sdsu or shared amongst other B12 teams increasing their $.  But given extra travel into different time zones, I would be reluctant to take less than a full share

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On 5/12/2023 at 3:36 PM, North County Aztec said:

Big12 would need to get fox on board for a full share, the extra money could be given to sdsu or shared amongst other B12 teams increasing their $.  But given extra travel into different time zones, I would be reluctant to take less than a full share

As I understand it, it’s already spelled out in the contract how much the B12 will get with any additions.
 

The negotiations would be between the B12 and the incoming members. I’m guessing SDSU would come in with partial share until the next contract or at least gradually move up to full shares. Based on comments coming out of SDSU they are having talks with both conferences. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean they will get an invite. SDSU AD has apparently enough info to say they will be in either the B12 or PAC12. Maybe he is just speculating like us.

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On 5/12/2023 at 2:53 PM, robe said:

As I understand it, it’s already spelled out in the contract how much the B12 will get with any additions.
 

The negotiations would be between the B12 and the incoming members. I’m guessing SDSU would come in with partial share until the next contract or at least gradually move up to full shares. Based on comments coming out of SDSU they are having talks with both conferences. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean they will get an invite. SDSU AD has apparently enough info to say they will be in either the B12 or PAC12. Maybe he is just speculating like us.

Certain details remain and there are reasons to think that the Bay Area schools don't want SDSU but that nobody else shares that opinion.

To put it another way, it's highly probable SDSU will be joining the Pac but not a certainty. The only thing that's certain is that whatever the vote actually is, it will be announced that it was "unanimous."

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On 5/12/2023 at 12:05 AM, Did I hear a WOOSH? said:

Why would big12 accept sdsu for 20m/year? That would be a pay decrease.  Surely you don’t think they would add 20m/year in addition to the 32m/year valuation of the big 12 teams? Or/Wa didn’t even have that much value to the BIG.  If sdsu was worth that much they would’ve already been p5 and wouldn’t be discussed at all today.  They aren’t going to the Big12, there is zero practicality to it.  The PAC is a wonderful option!

They added trash like UCF and Houston that are worth less than SDSU....sooooo

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On 5/12/2023 at 7:00 PM, halfmanhalfbronco said:

They added trash like UCF and Houston that are worth less than SDSU....sooooo as a fan of Boise State that basically makes me less than trash by my own definition so forgive my idiocy.  I will keep to myself now.

 

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